Re: New Member, ( may disturb some pg women)

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Please do not think you will be too old. I am 17 wks right now at and will

37 in April. This after 7 long years of TTC. It's amazing what weight loss

can do. Good luck on your surgeries.

Jeanne

RNY 6/5/01 385-153#

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In a message dated 2/10/2003 6:06:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lisagriffin521@... writes:

> I have been told toxemia occurs with 1st pg and multiples.

>

Hugs and I'm sorry for your loss! My first pg was a twin pg (I was 22

though) conceived naturally and me being over 400lbs. I had NO gestational

diabetes or PIH (toxemia) at all.. so while it *can* occur it isn't always a

true thing! I did lose a twin in that pg at term but only because she had a

severe heart defect and didn't make it to birth!

If you want to be pg now you can try.. no doubt about that! Let me tell you

though being pg VERY heavy is NOT fun! Preterm labor was my main concern but

even with this one being 230lbs lighter I'm still dealing with preterm labor!

I have friends who didn't start their families until 36 and others who were

only baby 4-5 at 38 and their children are perfect. Maybe if you're worried

you can do an IVF retrieval with fertilization and growth and freeze the

embies until after your surgery so then your egg quality won't be so much of

an issue.. not sure it'll be THAT much of an issue anyway!

Best of luck in your decision to go forward whatever you choose!

*~Joy~*

Lap RNY @ 491lbs

town Memorial

Dr. Bertha

2/26/01

Mommy to:

1-9-99

Saralyn

12-15-99

&

Baby #3

EDD 7/14/03

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Dear ,

I am not an expert on this subject, but maybe I can offer some advice. You

are only 34. If you wait a year after your r ny to get pregnant, I would

imagine that you would have a better chance of carrying to term. What if you

got pregnant again and the same thing happened?

I am 41 and due in June. I did not need IVF. However, I was 39 when I had

my rny. For awhile I thought that I should get the rrny after my next baby.

Then I realized it would be a miracle if I even got pregnant at that weight,

and if I got pregnant, would I really be able to carry a baby to term in my

morbidly obese condition. I had the rny two years ago, and we used birth

control for one year. I am glad I made that decision.

Have you ever tried to conceive while not in the morbidly obese weight range?

Maybe after your rny you will be able to conceive at a normal weight. Hey,

I hear you can even freeze those eggs nowadays! Go for it, girl! I bet if

you were not morbidly obese when you were pregnant that your tragedy would

not have happened. I am so sorry for what you went through. You must be

very brave.

Maybe your husband's sperm count will go up after your r ny. As I already

said, I can perfectly understand that you don't want a year to go by without

trying to conceive at your age. However, you will only be 35 next year, and

I still think you have plenty of time. If you are afraid you are running out

of time, just freeze those eggs and do the IVF next year!

GOOD LUCK!

Shoshannah

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In a message dated 2/10/2003 7:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

EDUCATIONmatters@... writes:

> I bet if

> you were not morbidly obese when you were pregnant that your tragedy would

> not have happened.

Shoshanna.

I'm sorry but I feel this statement is cruel and unnecessary! Twin pgs are

very difficult and lots of things can happen. Having her twins fall behind

in weight and growth has NOTHING to do with being obese! I had twins at 4

*~Joy~*

Lap RNY @ 491lbs

town Memorial

Dr. Bertha

2/26/01

Mommy to:

1-9-99

Saralyn

12-15-99

&

Baby #3

EDD 7/14/03

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,

Wow. that is quite a deliemaa you have there. At the time I had

WLS, having another child was the LAST thing on my mind. I am 3 yrs

post op from ROUENY GBP and I got pregnant 2 years and 1 month after

my surgery. I have nearly decided to have another baby this summer

(get pregnant before my other child is even a year old? yeo! I'm

crazy! hahahaha!)

I had (still have) fertility issues too, and I also will be 37 this

summer. It's all up to the good Lord. I feel if he thinks we should

have another one, he will give us a sign. Pray about it. Go with

what feels best for you and your husband. Ask God what you should

do. He won't steer you wrong.

Sheila

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Dear ,

Joy wrote in and said

Shoshanna.

I'm sorry but I feel this statement is cruel and unnecessary!

after I said

> I bet if

> you were not morbidly obese when you were pregnant that your tragedy would

> not have happened

I apologize if my statement was cruel and unnecessary. Joy is correct that

twin pregnancies are high risk to begin with. I was thinking of my own

situation. I would not have been able to get pregnant at 290. Furthermore,

if I had been able to get pregnant, I would not have been able to carry the

baby to term because of the way I carried my weight. My weight was all in my

stomach. I also had a big hernia in my stomach which made my intestines pop

out. There was no room left for a baby inside my morbidly obese body, but

that was just the way I was built. I guess everyone is different.

When I read your letter, I thought you implied that maybe your babies would

have been okay if you were not obese. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

I hope you post to the group and let me know what you thought of my original

posting that Joy said was cruel and unnecessary.

Honestly, I am sorry, and I had no malice of forethought when I posted that.

I am very embarrassed about it now. This is the second time someone has

responded to me to tell me how rotten I am. If people are so concerned about

cruelty, why are they responding to me in a cruel manner? My posting could

have easily been corrected by setting an example of kindness since that is

what people think I need to learn.

I was obviously wrong about a fact. Please inform me and correct me next

time without judgement. This group is supposed to be to inform and educate

people not to tell them how bad they are. I never told anyone in here what

they did was bad. I am almost five months pregnant, and I am not supposed to

be put through this stress. Furthermore, by copying and pasting that one

sentence you took my entire post out of context.

Now I know why from Minnesota dropped out of this group.

Shoshannah

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I didn't think anything Shoshannah said was meant to be mean or

hurtful. The facts are the heavier you are the " more likely " you are

to have difficulty getting pregnant, have diabetes or other

metabolic problems that can lead to other fertility problems.

Each and everyone of us is different. Ultimately, it is the persons

OWN decision (and that of her husband) and I am certain she just

posted the question here to see what we thought.

Fat & pregnant now or thinner and pregnant in a year or so. (I feel

I can say FAT since I have been FAT & pregnant myself!)

Just as each of us is different, physically, mentally and

emotionally... so are our bodies.

I can only speak for myself and my medical background. Just because

one of us has difficulty when we are pregnant (preeclamsia is not

just reserved for heavy pregnant moms) does not mean skinny people

don't have the same problems.

I don't even remember who posted the original message about " preg

now and heavy " or " preg after WLS but older " but many it sounds like

have been there.

FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE..........

It was MUCH easier being pregnant (AND FAT) 9 years ago. Thus making

me believe it is easier the younger you are. I was 36 when my son

was born and 140# lighter. I had so many more problems,

complications, side effects to this pregnancy that I didn't have

with my son at 28. My Dr says it is because I am older, not because

I am thinner. It is an individualized decision for each and every

one of us and if we are asked and give our OWN opinion, we shouldn't

be chastized for it (even if it may have sounded harsh- we shouldn't

jump to conclusions).

As for being OLD, THIN and PREGNANT..... my pregnancy at 36 wasn't

bad enough for me not to consider getting pregnant AGAIN at 37....

Sheila

just my opinion.... like my dear old Dad says... opinions are

like " BUTTS " everyone has one.....

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Hi everyone.......

I was diagnosed with PCOS 6 years ago, before i had my two children. I have

a 5 year old daughter and a 2 year old son. It did take me longer to

conceive both, but no problems with the pregnancies. I am now 41 years old

and trying to conceive again. I've lost 125 lbs so am hopeing this will

help.

God Bless you all......

Tracey

Northern MN

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I was diagnosed with PCOS and had a son before that, but since was unsuccessful

until I lost some weight. Now that I lost my weight, we got pregnant on the

first try. Now just hoping for a smooth pregnancy.

To visit my website, learn about gastric bypass surgery, see my weight loss

pictures, or just to learn about me go to

http://www.geocities.com/billnjulie2001

Re: New Member, ( may disturb some pg women)

Hi everyone.......

I was diagnosed with PCOS 6 years ago, before i had my two children. I have

a 5 year old daughter and a 2 year old son. It did take me longer to

conceive both, but no problems with the pregnancies. I am now 41 years old

and trying to conceive again. I've lost 125 lbs so am hopeing this will

help.

God Bless you all......

Tracey

Northern MN

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,

I really enjoyed your website. You have done beautifully on your weight-loss.

Congrats on your pregnancy!

Best Wishes,

D.

Open RNY 2-18-02 down 152lbs

born on 1-16-03

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,

Thanks so much

To visit my website, learn about gastric bypass surgery, see my weight loss

pictures, or just to learn about me go to

http://www.geocities.com/billnjulie2001

Re: New Member, ( may disturb some pg women)

,

I really enjoyed your website. You have done beautifully on your

weight-loss. Congrats on your pregnancy!

Best Wishes,

D.

Open RNY 2-18-02 down 152lbs

born on 1-16-03

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Congragulations ........

Toss some of that pg dust this way, i live in Northern MN.

Tracey

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