(no subject)

[Guest guest]

,

I have read that pregnant women frequently get carpal tunnel in their

pregnancy because fluid fills up the carpal tunnel and puts pressure on the

nerves...it is suggested that you wear a wrist brace if it bothers you...

Jana

RNY 04/02/02

EDD 04/04/03 Isaiah Riley

Pre-op wt 258

Current wt 150

[Guest guest]

I'd definitely talk to your doctor about it. It could be low blood pressure or

carpal tunnel or something else entirely. My blood pressure is low (generally

80-90 over 50-60) so I get the tingly hands a lot too. I started eating a

pickle a day a few months ago to help me retain more fluid, which I was told

might raise my BP and the problem has gotten much better. Lately my BP readings

have been closer to 100/70ish.

EDD 5/13/03 - Its a GIRL!!!

2/26/02 lap RNY

Mommy to (9/16/94), Lexie (7/2/96), (5/1/00)

(no subject)

Hello everyone ~

I have a question that I've been wondering about for nearly a week. I

go to my doctor later today and will be asking him as well. I am currently

31 weeks pregnant and this past week I've noticed that my hands have began

" falling a sleep " ...getting that numb feeling. This happens throughout the

day, but more so at night while I'm trying to sleep. I find my self waking

up to change positions quite often through out the night because of this.

Other then my hands, so far I've been able to sleep comfortably.

Thanks,

RNY May 13, 2002

EDD: April 11, 2003

[Guest guest]

Hmmm, , the pickle helps? I have low blood pressure, I have had quite a

few episodes since having the baby, so I wonder if that might work for me? lol

Marcy

(no subject)

Hello everyone ~

I have a question that I've been wondering about for nearly a week. I

go to my doctor later today and will be asking him as well. I am currently

31 weeks pregnant and this past week I've noticed that my hands have began

" falling a sleep " ...getting that numb feeling. This happens throughout the

day, but more so at night while I'm trying to sleep. I find my self waking

up to change positions quite often through out the night because of this.

Other then my hands, so far I've been able to sleep comfortably.

Thanks,

RNY May 13, 2002

EDD: April 11, 2003

[Guest guest]

, good luck and I know you are nervous, it will be fine and you will

have a healthy baby ....

Robin

RNY 2/27/2002

E.D.D 7/20/2003

5 precious children to light the way

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah! I remember those days. It was like I'd hit a wall! Prior to

getting preggo I was a gym fanatic...weight training and cardio three

times a week. When I was about 7 or 8 weeks it was all I could do to go

to work and come home to lay on the couch! LOL!!!

Don't worry, it really does get better! LOL!!! As I recall I started

getting energized around 14 or 15 weeks. ;o)

Hang in there!

Blessings,

in CA

_____

Jordan's WAHMommy

michelle@...

(no subject)

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone felt major fatigue and nausea during

pregnancy? I

got pregnant about 5 weeks post-op (OOOPS!!!) and I'm feeling terrible

now.

I am 7 weeks pregnant. I feel like I have no energy, and i'm constantly

nauseated.....no appetite at all. I want and I KNOW i have to eat but

its

becoming a problem. I haven't actually thrown-up, which is a plus but I

constantly worry about getting in enough calories to maintain myself as

well

as a growing fetus. I probably only get between 300-500 kcals a day. I

do

take 2 prenatal vitamins a day. I'm the first woman in my area to get

pregnant after wls, the first pt for my OB and the first pt for my

Perinatologist. So they really don't know what to do with me. I find

most

of my answers for the collective experiences of this group. Could

someone

please tell me if this fatigue and nausea goes away for us suddenly

post-op

preg women. I would appreciate any comments.

Take care,

Miki

roux en y 01-20-03

edd 11-26-03

[Guest guest]

Miki,

I went thru the same exact thing after getting pregnant at 7 weeks post-op. I

was extremely nauseated the entire 9 months (as I was with my pre-op pregnancy),

and I also had no appetite. My loss of appetite lasted pretty much until my 3rd

trimester. My Perinatalogist was concerned, but he did a series of ultrasounds

thruought my pregnancy and was just fine. Now, I was extremely tired and

weak the entire pregnancy. I also suffered from extremely low Albumin levels (as

I could barely tolerate protein). I now know that if your Albumin levels are low

your body soaks up all fluids like a sponge. Therefore I suffered from horrible

Edema in my legs and abdomen the last 6 weeks of the pregnancy. Try when you can

and eat protein.... My Perinatalogist said one thing though, remember the baby

takes what it needs, you get the aftermath. I hope that helps..your not alone!

Good Luck!

D.

[Guest guest]

My belly is really big, and I also had it with my youngest, well, that was

before I lost weight, I still have a good hundred to go,but it was there,

and he was born vaginally, this baby is head down, and has been for a few

weeks, lets hope he stays this way..I am 28 weeks and I also will have

another u/s around 30 weeks.....Good luck..I am sorry you are so

uncomfortable....I dont know anything about pregnancy girdles, although if

you could give me info i would appreciate it, i am sure it would be so much

more comfortable..ok a stupid question, I am still learning..what is the

difference between a tummy tuck and a panniculectomy

Robin

RNY 2/27/2002

E.D.D 7/20/2003

5 precious children to light the way

[Guest guest]

Oh, well thank you so much, sounds like something I could use, so you dont

have to be goal weight to have this done? I appreciate your fast response, I

know I sound ignorant, but I didnt know there were two procedures that could

be done to help out.... very helpful...and promising..

Robin

RNY 2/27/2002

E.D.D 7/20/2003

5 precious children to light the way

[Guest guest]

on 4/29/03 11:33 PM, robindawn869@... at robindawn869@... wrote:

> .ok a stupid question, I am still learning..what is the

> difference between a tummy tuck and a panniculectomy

>

Basically a panniculectomy (which is what I had) simply removes the apron of

skin without repositioning or rebuilding the muscle structure underneath

(which is what a TT does). From what my plastic surgeon told me, you need to

be a good bit closer to your goal weight to get a TT and be happy with the

results, so he just did a panniculectomy on me. It sure did help, though...

made a really major difference in the size of pants I can wear now that I

don't have to allow for that big floppy flap.

-- Kris Wood

" I base most of my fashion taste on what doesn't itch. "

Gilda Radner

[Guest guest]

This is good to know, Kris. If you don't mind me asking, did your PS

tell you just how close to goal one should be before getting a

panniculectomy?

Thanks!

in CA

_____

Jordan's WAHMommy

michelle@...

Re: (no subject)

on 4/29/03 11:33 PM, robindawn869@... at robindawn869@... wrote:

> .ok a stupid question, I am still learning..what is the

> difference between a tummy tuck and a panniculectomy

>

Basically a panniculectomy (which is what I had) simply removes the

apron of

skin without repositioning or rebuilding the muscle structure underneath

(which is what a TT does). From what my plastic surgeon told me, you

need to

be a good bit closer to your goal weight to get a TT and be happy with

the

results, so he just did a panniculectomy on me. It sure did help,

though...

made a really major difference in the size of pants I can wear now that

I

don't have to allow for that big floppy flap.

-- Kris Wood

" I base most of my fashion taste on what doesn't itch. "

Gilda Radner

[Guest guest]

on 4/29/03 11:45 PM, at webservant@... wrote:

> This is good to know, Kris. If you don't mind me asking, did your PS

> tell you just how close to goal one should be before getting a

> panniculectomy?

>

> Thanks!

>

> in CA

>

No, he didn't give me an exact figure. I think it depends on your own

particular build and fat distribution, etc. For me, I probably would need to

lose about 50 more pounds in order to be down low enough to merit going

ahead with a TT. I think that one of the main things is that if doing a TT

requires the removal of too much excess fat, then it's really not a safe or

highly successful thing, and if it did work, it would look weird and out of

proportion because my shoulders, butt, etc., wouldn't match.

My results, while I'm satisfied with them (the panni, not necessarily the

breast reduction, although that's another story), are not what I expected

them to be. Let's see if I can describe what I now have... well, for one

thing, I no longer have a bellybutton, but I knew that going in and I didn't

really want to bother with having a new one. But all the poochiness that was

above my bellybutton is still there... there's no " waistline " at all, so my

pants (even though they're a much smaller size than previously) will

occasionally slide down to my bikini-line -- especially blue jeans after

I've worn them for several hours and they've stretched out. I don't ever

wear shirts tucked in (although I could now), so if my pants accidentally do

slip down, nobody knows it but me. If I wear panties that are on the snug

side, they definitely slip down (I like granny-panties... if you can wear

bikinis, then this won't affect you at all, but I don't like to wear

bikinis).

I think that much of the pooch problem is due to my very poor abdominal

muscle tone, and if I actually started doing ab crunches on a regular basis

they'd tighten back up nicely and it wouldn't be such an issue to keep my

pants up! LOL

This was probably more than you wanted to read!! hee hee

Kris

[Guest guest]

Kris, thank you for the info, I wish I would have known this a year ago,

maybe it is something I will check into after this baby is born, have a great

day!!!!!

Robin

RNY 2/27/2002

E.D.D 7/20/2003

5 precious children to light the way

[Guest guest]

Hello,

The girdle I am wearing is not a pregnancy girdle, but it is very light so it

gives a little support without giving pressure. The prenatal cradle is a

device for pregnancy that has a band which pulls up the bottom of the

stomach, and it helps a lot.

Shoshannah K

[Guest guest]

on 4/29/03 11:46 PM, robindawn869@... at robindawn869@... wrote:

> Oh, well thank you so much, sounds like something I could use, so you dont

> have to be goal weight to have this done? I appreciate your fast response, I

> know I sound ignorant, but I didnt know there were two procedures that could

> be done to help out.... very helpful...and promising..

>

No, you don't have to be at goal weight to have a panniculectomy... in fact,

I know there are some people who actually have a panniculectomy at the same

time they have WLS. And no, you don't sound ignorant! I didn't realize the

difference between the two procedures until I actually consulted my plastic

surgeon and found out. It's not as though you can go onto a plastic surgery

web site and find " panniculectomy " listed among their other procedures,

because I don't think it's very common among the general public.

-Kris

[Guest guest]

, I'm not Kris but when I had my abdominoplasty (aka TT), my PS would

not perform the procedure if I had not met goal according to his weight charts.

He does not go by an individuals goal but by his weight standards based on

height, frame and age. His numbers for an acceptable weight range for a woman

who is 5'10 was 120-170 lbs - would be a candidate for a TT.

~ BabyCopia ~

Unique and Original Baby Products

www.babycopia.com

RE: (no subject)

This is good to know, Kris. If you don't mind me asking, did your PS

tell you just how close to goal one should be before getting a

panniculectomy?

Thanks!

in CA

[Guest guest]

Ethel: I think your friend is thinking about Prolotherapy.I've done 3 injections

so far and it hasn't done much...doctor says it takes longer to work as it

builds cartilage and I've only been trying it for 4.5 weeks...generally 3

injections are enough..4-6 weeks spacing between shots...my doctor says I'll

probably need 5-6 shots and maybe the results will be nil...jim j

(no subject)

Thanks le. My friend did hear about the work on making cartilage

where there is none. Will check on it but believe it was not in this

country.

Glenn, she has taken and done everything available. Seems that she

feels the seasilver and OPC and flexanol are what helped the most. Her

doctor could not believe she is walking without a 'stick', as she calls

it.

As I mentioned, my condition is complicated from the very painful injury

and operation

of my thigh. Since the injury, I have atrial fib and am a high surgery

risk. I am now 'bone on bone' and am trying reduce the pain until the

hip operation. I wish I could tell you what I do right or wrong . I do

not take any medication except for bufferin. I do take lots of natural

b vitamins and lots of natural c. Fix and eat mostly organic foods. If

I have pain at night, I find b-6 and b-3 or niacin help.

Also, do that squeezing of the buttocks and gentle stretching. My one

doctor suggested the Friedenhaus (spelling...will look it up on my

medical records) therapy but I did not follow up as I like my

therapist. I was going to medical appointments 3 times a week but not

any more.

Feel free to e mail me personally if you care. All I can say, is

'beware of red-light runners' . The kid hit me going about 40mph.

ec

[Guest guest]

Hi Ethel, Hi le, Hi everyone,

Thanks for the info.

My situation is I'm 62 and fairly fit except I've been diagnosed with severe

OA with Avascular Necrosis (AVN) in my right hip. They tell me my left hip

is in the early stages.

I go to my intake appointment at the Orthopedic Dept at Harbor-UCLA Med.

Ctr. on June 3, for evaluation. Dr. Schmalzried from JRI is one of the

surgeons on staff there and I am going to see if I qualify for resurfacing

and if it's available to me. So we'll see what happens.

For pain, I take alternating doses of Ibuprofen 800mg w/Zantax, and Vicodin

throughout the day...but it only takes the edge off the pain and makes it

tolerable.

I cannot walk without a cane, and pain. Fortunately I am able to sit or lie

down without pain...but it's rolling over and getting up and down where I

have to watch out. And getting in and out of a car is a painful chore.

I haven't been able to drive for a while (can't lift my leg) and fortunately

we have a great service for people with disabilities here in L.A. called

Access-Paratransit which is great. (As I understand it, this is mandated by

the ADA so check out what's available in your city.) They come and pick you

up in a mini van for a reasonable fee. In spite of the pain, I still need

to get out to do what ever work I can, (I'm a free-lance graphic artist) and

I'd be majored screwed without this.

Over the course of a year or so, it seems my pelvis has rotated and created

a short leg syndrome, I need a lift in my right shoe, and also my spine is

now a little curved. I have to be very careful bending over because I can

throw my back out easily if I don't pay attention. Can't make any moves with

out first thinking through what I'm going to do. I'm concerned about the

shortness of the leg being corrected if it is caused by a rotated pelvis.

I have been going to physical therapy once a week for eight weeks at

U.C.L.A. and that has helped a lot. Because of this, I have been able to

decrease the amount of pain meds I need to take, so I would highly recommend

to anyone to check out P.T. to see if it will work for them.

Ethel, I won't see my physical therapist until Fri so how exactly is that

butt squeeze exercise you mentioned done?

I am always interested in other peoples experiences who have found ways to

deal with the kind of pain we have. That's why I was asking what Ethel's

friend was taking that enabled her to put down her cane. Good for her!

I took Glucosamine and Chondroitin sulfates for a couple of years and my

condition progressed, and so did the pain. Maybe, if I hadn't been taking

those supplements my condition would have gotten worse...but I don't know if

there's any way to tell.

The only thing that I have not tried is dosing with supplements and vitamins

that are known high potent anti-inflamitories. I've been reluctant to do

that while I'm taking all these pain meds.

If there are any other folks out there who have had success with either

prescription or over-the-counter supplemental anti-inflamitories, I would

greatly appreciate hearing which ones you used. And, were you able to take

them O.K. with no bad reactions with pain meds?

I hope I haven' t gone on too much here and freaked anyone out. Please let

me know if I'm out of line. In the meantime, a big thanks to everyone on

this board for all the incredibly valuable information you share.

Reading your posts, especially those from folks on the other side of

surgery, has been a great encouragement and very helpful in giving me the

strength to go through this situation.

Thank you.

Glen C.

OA/AVN-RH Pre-op

>

> Reply-To: surfacehippy

> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:33:42 -0800

> To: " surfacehippy " <surfacehippy >

> Subject: (no subject)

>

> Thanks le. My friend did hear about the work on making cartilage

> where there is none. Will check on it but believe it was not in this

> country.

>

> Glenn, she has taken and done everything available. Seems that she

> feels the seasilver and OPC and flexanol are what helped the most. Her

> doctor could not believe she is walking without a 'stick', as she calls

> it.

>

> As I mentioned, my condition is complicated from the very painful injury

> and operation

> of my thigh. Since the injury, I have atrial fib and am a high surgery

> risk. I am now 'bone on bone' and am trying reduce the pain until the

> hip operation. I wish I could tell you what I do right or wrong . I do

> not take any medication except for bufferin. I do take lots of natural

> b vitamins and lots of natural c. Fix and eat mostly organic foods. If

> I have pain at night, I find b-6 and b-3 or niacin help.

>

> Also, do that squeezing of the buttocks and gentle stretching. My one

> doctor suggested the Friedenhaus (spelling...will look it up on my

> medical records) therapy but I did not follow up as I like my

> therapist. I was going to medical appointments 3 times a week but not

> any more.

>

> Feel free to e mail me personally if you care. All I can say, is

> 'beware of red-light runners' . The kid hit me going about 40mph.

>

> ec

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jim and Glenn, just talked to my friend and she said the building of cartilage

was developed by Japanese and German doctors and there is one clinic outside of

Vienna that is doing the therapy. My friend is highly intelligent, fluent in

many languages, and was warned to leave her home when the Russians soldiers

moved into their home and took over all their property in

East Germany. Anyway, she has great knowledge on many subject but is extremely

informed on health issues.

She also said that flexanol, OPC and seasilver work together. This is not to

say that a hip replacement is out but at least it appears to reduce the pain and

she recognizes this and so do I. It is the pain that troubles us. Neither she

nor I are on any pain killer drugs and outside of aspirin for her and bufferin

for me, that is it.

Glenn, we are both older than you so hang in there !!!

Jim, where do you get your injections and can you share any more info as time

goes on ? Many thanks,

ec

Jim wrote:

> Ethel: I think your friend is thinking about Prolotherapy.I've done 3

injections so far and it hasn't done much...doctor says it takes longer to work

as it builds cartilage and I've only been trying it for 4.5 weeks...generally 3

injections are enough..4-6 weeks spacing between shots...my doctor says I'll

probably need 5-6 shots and maybe the results will be nil...jim j

> (no subject)

>

> Thanks le. My friend did hear about the work on making cartilage

> where there is none. Will check on it but believe it was not in this

> country.

>

> Glenn, she has taken and done everything available. Seems that she

> feels the seasilver and OPC and flexanol are what helped the most. Her

> doctor could not believe she is walking without a 'stick', as she calls

> it.

>

> As I mentioned, my condition is complicated from the very painful injury

> and operation

> of my thigh. Since the injury, I have atrial fib and am a high surgery

> risk. I am now 'bone on bone' and am trying reduce the pain until the

> hip operation. I wish I could tell you what I do right or wrong . I do

> not take any medication except for bufferin. I do take lots of natural

> b vitamins and lots of natural c. Fix and eat mostly organic foods. If

> I have pain at night, I find b-6 and b-3 or niacin help.

>

> Also, do that squeezing of the buttocks and gentle stretching. My one

> doctor suggested the Friedenhaus (spelling...will look it up on my

> medical records) therapy but I did not follow up as I like my

> therapist. I was going to medical appointments 3 times a week but not

> any more.

>

> Feel free to e mail me personally if you care. All I can say, is

> 'beware of red-light runners' . The kid hit me going about 40mph.

>

> ec

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ethel,

This certainly sounds groundbreaking. See if you can get any hard data on

the Vienna clinic and the work they are doing.

Glen C.

OA/AVN-RH Pre-op

>

> Reply-To: surfacehippy

> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:49:13 -0800

> To: surfacehippy

> Subject: Re: (no subject)

>

> Jim and Glenn, just talked to my friend and she said the building of cartilage

> was developed by Japanese and German doctors and there is one clinic outside

> of Vienna that is doing the therapy. My friend is highly intelligent, fluent

> in many languages, and was warned to leave her home when the Russians

> soldiers moved into their home and took over all their property in

> East Germany. Anyway, she has great knowledge on many subject but is

> extremely informed on health issues.

>

> She also said that flexanol, OPC and seasilver work together. This is not to

> say that a hip replacement is out but at least it appears to reduce the pain

> and she recognizes this and so do I. It is the pain that troubles us.

> Neither she nor I are on any pain killer drugs and outside of aspirin for her

> and bufferin for me, that is it.

>

> Glenn, we are both older than you so hang in there !!!

>

> Jim, where do you get your injections and can you share any more info as time

> goes on ? Many thanks,

>

> ec

>

> Jim wrote:

>

>> Ethel: I think your friend is thinking about Prolotherapy.I've done 3

>> injections so far and it hasn't done much...doctor says it takes longer to

>> work as it builds cartilage and I've only been trying it for 4.5

>> weeks...generally 3 injections are enough..4-6 weeks spacing between

>> shots...my doctor says I'll probably need 5-6 shots and maybe the results

>> will be nil...jim j

>> (no subject)

>>

>> Thanks le. My friend did hear about the work on making cartilage

>> where there is none. Will check on it but believe it was not in this

>> country.

>>

>> Glenn, she has taken and done everything available. Seems that she

>> feels the seasilver and OPC and flexanol are what helped the most. Her

>> doctor could not believe she is walking without a 'stick', as she calls

>> it.

>>

>> As I mentioned, my condition is complicated from the very painful injury

>> and operation

>> of my thigh. Since the injury, I have atrial fib and am a high surgery

>> risk. I am now 'bone on bone' and am trying reduce the pain until the

>> hip operation. I wish I could tell you what I do right or wrong . I do

>> not take any medication except for bufferin. I do take lots of natural

>> b vitamins and lots of natural c. Fix and eat mostly organic foods. If

>> I have pain at night, I find b-6 and b-3 or niacin help.

>>

>> Also, do that squeezing of the buttocks and gentle stretching. My one

>> doctor suggested the Friedenhaus (spelling...will look it up on my

>> medical records) therapy but I did not follow up as I like my

>> therapist. I was going to medical appointments 3 times a week but not

>> any more.

>>

>> Feel free to e mail me personally if you care. All I can say, is

>> 'beware of red-light runners' . The kid hit me going about 40mph.

>>

>> ec

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I recall a TV news item some 2-3 years ago (in the UK) where a patient

was shown who had knee cartilage re-grow after cartilage cells were

implanted by his London OS. I seem to believe that the overall

re-growth process took somewhere between one and two years. When I

became aware of my hip condition (bone-on-bone) and was invited to have

THR, I started enquiring about cartilage cells implant into my affected

hip. A friend with two medical degrees who worked as a scientist and is

now completing her third medical degree suggested that this might not be

so straight forward. She did qualify her views by stating the she knew

'virtually nothing' about cartilage degeneration caused by OA (my

condition) but thought that unless the correct cells (the ones that knew

where/when/why/how they should re-grow) where implanted in the correct

way (time/place) there would be very slim chances of a long-term

success. So, it seemed to me that this option, sadly was years away.

I'd be interested to know if the London experiment had been

repeated/continued (I do recall seeing the snapshot of the patient, in a

UK broadsheet, playing football with his son).

Regards

Dan

* (07974) 981-407

* (020) 8501-2573

@ dan.milosevic@...

(no subject)

Thanks le. My friend did hear about the work on making cartilage

where there is none. Will check on it but believe it was not in this

country.

Glenn, she has taken and done everything available. Seems that she

feels the seasilver and OPC and flexanol are what helped the most. Her

doctor could not believe she is walking without a 'stick', as she calls

it.

As I mentioned, my condition is complicated from the very painful injury

and operation of my thigh. Since the injury, I have atrial fib and am a

high surgery risk. I am now 'bone on bone' and am trying reduce the

pain until the hip operation. I wish I could tell you what I do right

or wrong . I do not take any medication except for bufferin. I do

take lots of natural b vitamins and lots of natural c. Fix and eat

mostly organic foods. If I have pain at night, I find b-6 and b-3 or

niacin help.

Also, do that squeezing of the buttocks and gentle stretching. My one

doctor suggested the Friedenhaus (spelling...will look it up on my

medical records) therapy but I did not follow up as I like my therapist.

I was going to medical appointments 3 times a week but not any more.

Feel free to e mail me personally if you care. All I can say, is

'beware of red-light runners' . The kid hit me going about 40mph.

ec

[Guest guest]

Hi Glen

Your experience with pain sounds very much like what I've been puuting up with

for about 4 years. For awhile for pain I used one Acetominophen tablet (500 mg

Tylenol or any generic name) and 3 Ibuprofen (200 mg any gneric is okay). I

found this on a medical site on the web, and it worked wonderfully for quite

awhile until I suppose I got immune to it. /Then the doctor switched me to

Tylenol 3's, but they upset my stomach, so now as a last resort he has me on

morphine. I was extremely surprised when he first suggested this, picturing

needles, but it's a capsule. I don't like the side effects and will be glad

when I can stop taking it.

Sharry

(no subject)

>

> Thanks le. My friend did hear about the work on making cartilage

> where there is none. Will check on it but believe it was not in this

> country.

>

> Glenn, she has taken and done everything available. Seems that she

> feels the seasilver and OPC and flexanol are what helped the most. Her

> doctor could not believe she is walking without a 'stick', as she calls

> it.

>

> As I mentioned, my condition is complicated from the very painful injury

> and operation

> of my thigh. Since the injury, I have atrial fib and am a high surgery

> risk. I am now 'bone on bone' and am trying reduce the pain until the

> hip operation. I wish I could tell you what I do right or wrong . I do

> not take any medication except for bufferin. I do take lots of natural

> b vitamins and lots of natural c. Fix and eat mostly organic foods. If

> I have pain at night, I find b-6 and b-3 or niacin help.

>

> Also, do that squeezing of the buttocks and gentle stretching. My one

> doctor suggested the Friedenhaus (spelling...will look it up on my

> medical records) therapy but I did not follow up as I like my

> therapist. I was going to medical appointments 3 times a week but not

> any more.

>

> Feel free to e mail me personally if you care. All I can say, is

> 'beware of red-light runners' . The kid hit me going about 40mph.

>

> ec

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sharry,

Thank you for your thoughts.

I've been taking prescription Ibuprofen and Vicodin (which is Acetaminophen

and hydrocodone). They work...sorta. It just makes the pain tolerable.

When I see my ortho doc on June 3, a review of my meds and the use of

anti-inflamatories is on my list to discuss.

I'm hoping for as much pain relief as I can get.

Thanks again for your thoughts...

Glen C.

OA/AVN-RH Pre-op

>

> Reply-To: surfacehippy

> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:18:01 -0700

> To: <surfacehippy >

> Subject: Re: (no subject)

>

> Hi Glen

> Your experience with pain sounds very much like what I've been puuting up with

> for about 4 years. For awhile for pain I used one Acetominophen tablet (500

> mg Tylenol or any generic name) and 3 Ibuprofen (200 mg any gneric is okay).

> I found this on a medical site on the web, and it worked wonderfully for quite

> awhile until I suppose I got immune to it. /Then the doctor switched me to

> Tylenol 3's, but they upset my stomach, so now as a last resort he has me on

> morphine. I was extremely surprised when he first suggested this, picturing

> needles, but it's a capsule. I don't like the side effects and will be glad

> when I can stop taking it.

> Sharry

> (no subject)

>>

>> Thanks le. My friend did hear about the work on making cartilage

>> where there is none. Will check on it but believe it was not in this

>> country.

>>

>> Glenn, she has taken and done everything available. Seems that she

>> feels the seasilver and OPC and flexanol are what helped the most. Her

>> doctor could not believe she is walking without a 'stick', as she calls

>> it.

>>

>> As I mentioned, my condition is complicated from the very painful injury

>> and operation

>> of my thigh. Since the injury, I have atrial fib and am a high surgery

>> risk. I am now 'bone on bone' and am trying reduce the pain until the

>> hip operation. I wish I could tell you what I do right or wrong . I do

>> not take any medication except for bufferin. I do take lots of natural

>> b vitamins and lots of natural c. Fix and eat mostly organic foods. If

>> I have pain at night, I find b-6 and b-3 or niacin help.

>>

>> Also, do that squeezing of the buttocks and gentle stretching. My one

>> doctor suggested the Friedenhaus (spelling...will look it up on my

>> medical records) therapy but I did not follow up as I like my

>> therapist. I was going to medical appointments 3 times a week but not

>> any more.

>>

>> Feel free to e mail me personally if you care. All I can say, is

>> 'beware of red-light runners' . The kid hit me going about 40mph.

>>

>> ec

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all of you who are praying for my husband Phil.

He had an 8 hour blood transfusion on Wednesday Nov. 3

He seems better but has developed some back pain on either side of his lower

back OUCH!!

The GI Dr. examines him Monday regarding the possibility of internal bleeding

<sigh> and will do a colonoscopy to hopefully shut off any bleeding areas.

This has been a rough week for us,but your prayers are the " medicine we need "

Thanks to all

Narice Phil Dan & Tim May