Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 , In spite of the fact that you never answered my question about the professional reviews of my book that you claimed to exist, I have another question for you. Regarding the " Monster Study " participants, what would you hold as the causes of the stuttering and what would you hold as a resolution for those who became stutterers? Was the stuttering caused simply by economic exploitation? Is the solution for those who became stutterers becoming Marxists without ever knowing what happened (e.g. engaging in " psychobabble " coming to terms with what they believed to be good for them was the root cause of the stuttering)? Ken Ragge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Hi Ken, I'm not , but wanted to answer this from my perspective. > , > > In spite of the fact that you never answered my question about the > professional reviews of my book that you claimed to exist, I have > another question for you. > > Regarding the " Monster Study " participants, what would you hold as the > causes of the stuttering and what would you hold as a resolution for > those who became stutterers? > > Was the stuttering caused simply by economic exploitation? In a way it was, though IMO it was more than simple economics. The Professor that put the study together did it to *further his career.* Would he do that in another political system? Hard to know. He did it at the expense of parentless children and then failed to even attempt to undo the damage. After the experiment was over he distanced himself from what he'd done. He knew it was wrong or he would have published his results instead of attempting to bury them. Is the > solution for those who became stutterers becoming Marxists without ever > knowing what happened (e.g. engaging in " psychobabble " coming to terms > with what they believed to be good for them was the root cause of the > stuttering)? The real solution would be it see these children as people and treat them as such. Even to the point of the community as a whole seeing that they have some obligation to children, so maybe they don't get shunted into the orphanage in the first place when the parental relationship breaks down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2001 Report Share Posted June 14, 2001 ahicks@... wrote: > > > Hi Ken, > > I'm not , but wanted to answer this from my perspective. > > > , > > > > In spite of the fact that you never answered my question about the > > professional reviews of my book that you claimed to exist, I have > > another question for you. > > > > Regarding the " Monster Study " participants, what would you hold as > the > > causes of the stuttering and what would you hold as a resolution for > > those who became stutterers? > > > > Was the stuttering caused simply by economic exploitation? > > In a way it was, though IMO it was more than simple economics. The > Professor that put the study together did it to *further his career.* > Would he do that in another political system? Hard to know. He did > it at the expense of parentless children and then failed to even > attempt to undo the damage. After the experiment was over he > distanced himself from what he'd done. He knew it was wrong or he > would have published his results instead of attempting to bury them. > , But was his career more a financial matter or ego matter or even helping those like himself as a child, stuttered, all of which exist in a Marxist society. As awful as all that was, I can't imagine it being questioned in a Marxist society. People belong to the state. Children are orphaned? Then they can be brought up to be part of the security forces. Aren't suitable for the palace guard? Then let them starve out of sight (e.g. Romanian orphanages). The most important point in this study, to me, is that we have _perhaps_ one person with evil intention (and that not assured) and he was probably invisible to the children. The teachers who helped out with the therapy, did so without bad intention and had no idea that the professional advice on how to deal with them was _causing_ a problem that didn't even exist until they started helping out. > > Is the > > solution for those who became stutterers becoming Marxists without > ever > > knowing what happened (e.g. engaging in " psychobabble " coming to > terms > > with what they believed to be good for them was the root cause of > the > > stuttering)? > > The real solution would be it see these children as people and treat > them as such. That question was aimed at our local Marxist. > > Even to the point of the community as a whole seeing > that they have some obligation to children, so maybe they don't get > shunted into the orphanage in the first place when the parental > relationship breaks down. Or the parents die. However, that is not the way of big cities and highly populated countries. In Brazil, homeless orphans are shot on the street. Ken Ragge > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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