Re: LowCarb breads and stuff

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And I read with a little concern about even more products that are coming out low-carb. (pretzels, muffins, cookies, and doughnuts.) That's what got me in trouble in the first place! Doesn't it seem wiser to develop a new way of life that doesn't include so much (even low carb) breadstuffs>>>>>

Jane....isn't that what made all the low fat people fat....all those low fat cookies, ice-cream, etc, that are loaded with calories (and sugar) but dupe people into thinking they are following their particular diet correctly....and then low and behold, the incidence of obesity is on the rise as a result. I think we have to train our brains not to resort to this stuff...you are absolutely right!

My expert opinion, LOL,

Joya

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HI Jane

I think you are right there. We need to change our eating habits. I never

eat bread and I guess I rarely miss it and I don't miss feeling tired all

the time. It would be nice to have some treats now and then but when I have

had them in bulk I ate too many in too short a period. The first time I

lost all of my weight I did not have bars or porkrinds for snacks. This

second time around I have eaten way too much cheese, if I have a head of

cabbage here I will pick away at it until it is gone. So I stopped buying

cabbage. And look at those ?? Zero carb candies I was eating! Which were not

zero carb at all. We need to learn to eat to live not live to eat. Maybe

we need to take up knitting or needle point. I am glad the nice weather is

finally coming as I can get out more.

Have you tried making low carb bread? I have not although I have made the

cheese cake but I am holding off on making that too til I lose some weight.

Norma

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I'll save you from the doughnuts. I got them free with an order and they were

horrible. I'm not sure who the test group was. I had

my husband feed them to the birds! I thought they might be a nice treat once in

a while. Oh well.

You're right about being wary of these things. Just like anything else they can

be a trigger food. I ordered something called " Twist " a

while back. It's a chocolate-hazelnut spread. It was very good but it sent me

into binge mode. I couldn't get enough of it. I had to

throw it out and I can never order it again. I tried a low carb bread called

Healthy something from the grocery store. I think it had

about 6 carbs per slice. It was a white bread and very good. Please be advised

that my favorite bread is Wonder bread! It didn't set

off cravings but it did make me gain weight. I had to stop buying that as well.

Beth

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Joya,

You're right. I think that we have to be aware of the four-letter-word "calories." Too much in, too much stays. Whether it's low fat or low carb. Or clutter in the house! Re-adjusting brains, re-focusing emotions, taming our own dragons. It's just so so so so so much easier doing the low-carb approach that I'm profoundly grateful for finding it.

Jane

And I read with a little concern about even more products that are coming out low-carb. (pretzels, muffins, cookies, and doughnuts.) That's what got me in trouble in the first place! Doesn't it seem wiser to develop a new way of life that doesn't include so much (even low carb) breadstuffs>>>>>

Jane....isn't that what made all the low fat people fat....all those low fat cookies, ice-cream, etc, that are loaded with calories (and sugar) but dupe people into thinking they are following their particular diet correctly....and then low and behold, the incidence of obesity is on the rise as a result. I think we have to train our brains not to resort to this stuff...you are absolutely right!

My expert opinion, LOL,

Joya

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Beth,

I agree. Trigger foods. Finding them. Banishing them. There must be

something in those particular foods that:

(1) meets an emotional need

(2) satisfies a chemical trigger and

(3) trips an old this-will-satisfy-you thought.

Low-carb choc-covered almonds meet all of the above and I choose not to have

those. It's an unanswerable, unfillable need. Guess that makes them

binge-triggers.

Like my used-t-be nemisis, the old four-letter word, " CH-----. " I *still*

have no shut-off valve for those! If they're at a party, I have to be in

another room. And even then the " call " is strong.

The Eades books describe the physiological part very well and have been

really helpful for me. Knowing that they don't trigger a " full " mechanism

gives me more knowledge to work with. And that knowledge is what helps me

stop. Often that's the only thing.

Jane

> It was very good but it sent me into binge mode. I couldn't get enough of

it.

[Guest guest]

LOL --- I can make just about anything except bread. Cheesecake is fine for

me to have --- I can leave it alone easily. I found a low-carb bread

on-line that doesn't trigger me either. But the ads for all of the low-carb

stuff that is coming out now really set off some warning bells!

Jane

> Have you tried making low carb bread? I have not although I have made the

> cheese cake but I am holding off on making that too til I lose some

weight.

> Norma

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i have to agree with you jane but thats what happend to low fat they started making low fat treats that ended up being all sugar and defeating the whole diet.. we are trying to get away from processed foods here . .if we want carbs we should be eating fruit and vegetables not ground up something or other

catherine

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[Guest guest]

gee joya thats what i said great minds

catherine

[Guest guest]

Yup u have a point. Last time I did low carb I lost about 60 pounds, I was

feeling good so I starting eating more low carb " treats " u know the cheese

cake, the almost fudge stuff etc...that led to oh well just this one night I

will have brownies and ice cream, well u can guess the rest...that went on

for a little better then a year. Im trying my best to continue to stick with

the basics of lowcarb. I did make those low carb choco kisses and while I

did not over do them carb wise, Im sure I ate too many at one time! I ended

up giving the rest of them to one of my friends.

In a message dated 4/5/01 3:56:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

strauman@... writes:

> Hi, all.

> Just got another e-mail from some of the fine folks I've purchased low

carb

> breads and rolls from. And I read with a little concern about even more

> products that are coming out low-carb. (pretzels, muffins, cookies, and

> doughnuts.) That's what got me in trouble in the first place! Doesn't it

> seem wiser to develop a new way of life that doesn't include so much (even

> low carb) breadstuffs? Or maybe I'm off base. Maybe the new breads will

not

> have the triggers in them because they don't have the carbs????? Any

expert

> opinions out there??? (Now isn't that a moot point with this group?!!!!!)

> LOL

> Jane

[Guest guest]

Another good point on this, did not even think of it that way.

In a message dated 4/5/01 5:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, joya7@...

writes:

> Jane....isn't that what made all the low fat people fat....all those low

fat

> cookies, ice-cream, etc, that are loaded with calories (and sugar) but dupe

> people into thinking they are following their particular diet correctly....

> and then low and behold, the incidence of obesity is on the rise as a

result.

> I think we have to train our brains not to resort to this stuff...you are

> absolutely right!

>

> My expert opinion, LOL,

> Joya

[Guest guest]

I saw a billboard for this bread when I was driving through St. Louis.

Forgot to mention it. It is Healthy something, wrote it down somewhere, if i

ever find it again I will post what it is. The billboard said something

like, Low Carbing? And then the name of the bread. I did not really pursue

it for the same reasons I mentioned of trying to stick with the basics.

In a message dated 4/5/01 5:37:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Beth.Bannor@... writes:

> I tried a low carb bread called Healthy something from the grocery store. I

> think it had

> about 6 carbs per slice. It was a white bread and very good. Please be

> advised that my favorite bread is Wonder bread! It didn't set

> off cravings but it did make me gain weight. I had to stop buying that as

> well.

>

> Beth