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At 05:51 PM 10/30/2007, MsSquarepants wrote:

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>Bill,

>Antibiotics make fungal infections worse. They are used for bacterial

>infections, not fungal. You need an anti-fungal treatment to kill those.

>Cheri

Yes, you're right -- however, someone can have both types of

infection, simultaneously (not uncommon) -- so a doctor

should sort it out, unless the problem clears up easily.

Bill

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> If possible. (Easier to do if you're taking a low dose,

> less than 0.1 mg.) Antibiotics or antifungals may be needed.

> You should keep your doctor informed.

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FortyNine wrote: What do you mean changing

it to fast....?

I am currently on -

7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 5 I added the extra 2.5 at night to be able to sleep better,

which I did.

Previously I was on -

7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 2.5

Would it be ok to go back to this schedule (I just raised 1/4 grain of Westhroid

on Friday, and felt horrible afterward)??

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>> I just don't get it. Maybe I should go back to exactly what I was doing

before I added HC and before the overdose and see if things return to my former

healthier state???<<

That is always a good thing to try. BUT move slowly. Changing a HC dose too fast

even if it si the right move can set you back.

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I take Florinef every day, and discontinuing from one day to the next

is not an option, and nor should it be recommended. I cannot miss a

dose without severe symptoms. It is like HC - you shouldn't stop any

adrenal support from one day to the next, but wean off it slowly.

All steroids are immune suppressants to some extent - not just

Florinef. It depends what dose you take.

Best

Nicola

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> Florinef is an immune suppressant.

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> Florinef should be discontinued for as long as any

> worsening colonization or infection continues --

> to allow your immune system to recover.

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> Take lots of oregano oil drops, etc., to help boost

> your immune system.

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>>7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 5 I added the extra 2.5 at night to be able to sleep better,

which I did.

Previously I was on -

7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 2.5

Would it be ok to go back to this schedule (I just raised 1/4 grain of Westhroid

on Friday, and felt horrible afterward)??<<

Feeling horrible after a thyroid increase usually indicates LOW cortiosl not

high so why would you lower it?

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The reason is jst liek this one. I have 17 emails to read and respond to

this AM. I ahve 20 minutes before I ahve to leave for work. Log ones

have to wait till I come home tonight. Then they will get resent 2-3

more times as I have not responded.

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Immune supression from steroids is nto soimethng tht happens from one

LITTLE overdose. It happoens over several days of quite a high dose of

steroid. SO no I do nto believe the ONE doay of too much FLorinef caused

the Candida to flare up. I had Candida long before I ever took steroids,

and I alo got rid of ti with high doses of thyroid, in spite of my own

high cortisol. Treqating thyrodi gets rid of fungal infectiosn,

including Candida as they do tno thrivce in niormal body temperatures

and with a healthy immune system they cannto thrive.

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So your theory is that the one overdose caused all my T3 to be used up and made

me hypo and caused the severe flare-up? It's a little hard for me to grasp

this because when I went back to my regular dose and raised thyroid, I still had

the issue. The only thing that started to give me relief was decreasing

florinef. And for the record, my temps. during this time were a steady 98.6 so

I don't think candida thriving at low temps. factored in.

The last time I felt the way I did after this overdose was when I had an

infected root canal that was suppressing my immune system, so I have a tendency

toward believing what Bill wrote.

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Immune supression from steroids is nto soimethng tht happens from one

LITTLE overdose. It happoens over several days of quite a high dose of

steroid. SO no I do nto believe the ONE doay of too much FLorinef caused

the Candida to flare up. I had Candida long before I ever took steroids,

and I alo got rid of ti with high doses of thyroid, in spite of my own

high cortisol. Treqating thyrodi gets rid of fungal infectiosn,

including Candida as they do tno thrivce in niormal body temperatures

and with a healthy immune system they cannto thrive.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I guess I should have also mentioned that my candida was very close to being

gone until the overdose and then it came back with a vengeance.

T wrote: Then it seems ot me you

had more than ONE day overdose of the Florinef

and had BEEN on too much to begin with. I repeat this does NOT happen

form ONE overdose, tbu from several weeks of too much steroid. Maybe the

overdose was a catalyst that made things noticable, btu something was

wrong to begin with for you to still have this problem. BTW my Candida

did nto go away until I had been on a good thyroid dose for several

months, it is not immediate. This is a balance thing as Candida is a

NORMAL part of everyone's bopdy and only when it goes into overgrowth

does it become a problem.

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The reason the STTM forums did not work for me is that I ended up

spending hours going through topics looking for the info I needed for a

concise answer. I do nto want this forum to become like that or i will

not be able to keep up here either. Everyone here needs to learn how to

be concise in their QUESTIONS. And include enough history to be relevant

without SO much that it takes 10 minutes ot read each post. That is the

only way it can work for me to help so many. Any assistant moderators

want to volunteer? I am open to suggestions as i have given this my all

and still it seems sometimes it is not enough.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

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I am appreciative of ANYONE taking ANY of their time to respond so THANK

YOU! I know you are very busy and I appreciate your time and all the people

who post and respond on this list.

Cheri

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The reason the STTM forums did not work for me is that I ended up

spending hours going through topics looking for the info I needed for a

concise answer. I do nto want this forum to become like that or i will

not be able to keep up here either. Everyone here needs to learn how to

be concise in their QUESTIONS. And include enough history to be relevant

without SO much that it takes 10 minutes ot read each post. That is the

only way it can work for me to help so many. Any assistant moderators

want to volunteer? I am open to suggestions as i have given this my all

and still it seems sometimes it is not enough.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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Val,

I will help you, Tell me what and how?????

G

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> The reason the STTM forums did not work for me is that I ended up

> spending hours going through topics looking for the info I needed for a

> concise answer. I do nto want this forum to become like that or i will

> not be able to keep up here either. Everyone here needs to learn how to

> be concise in their QUESTIONS. And include enough history to be

relevant

> without SO much that it takes 10 minutes ot read each post. That is the

> only way it can work for me to help so many. Any assistant moderators

> want to volunteer? I am open to suggestions as i have given this my all

> and still it seems sometimes it is not enough.

>

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> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

>

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What I need is others to help people on the list. If you know the answer

to a question, POST it! When I see you are answering correctly, I will

skip posts that I see you have answered. This is a huge help to me.

There are many times whennew poeple come to the list that you canould

tell them where to get their own saliva labs, where are the directions

to the temp graphing thye will need to rely on in the future for knowing

what is going on. It would save me hours to just have people answering

new folks wiht this info.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

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I think We can all do that...

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> What I need is others to help people on the list. If you know the

answer

> to a question, POST it! When I see you are answering correctly, I will

> skip posts that I see you have answered. This is a huge help to me.

> There are many times whennew poeple come to the list that you canould

> tell them where to get their own saliva labs, where are the directions

> to the temp graphing thye will need to rely on in the future for

knowing

> what is going on. It would save me hours to just have people answering

> new folks wiht this info.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

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