Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Anger can be either high cortisol or high thyroid feeling hot can be either too. If your temps are below 99 I owuld say it most liely is formhigh cortiosl as high thyroid will raise temps too high very quickly after you have it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 > > Anger can be either high cortisol or high thyroid feeling hot can be > either too. If your temps are below 99 I owuld say it most liely is > formhigh cortiosl as high thyroid will raise temps too high very quickly > after you have it. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > sep 17th 7-8am 6 depressed(13-24) 11-noon 9 normal (5-10) 4-5pm 7 normal (3-8) 11-mid.2 normal(1-4) cortisol burden 24 (23-42) DHEA 4(3-10 im on no thyroid my temps havent went above 99 my temp will rise around 3 all the time to 98.6-98.7 then lower. im on 2,2,1,1,,hopefully diagnos-tech is accurate. so wut now?if im high cortisol witch i was hoping i wouldnt do,my labs werent that bad,,but feels like im makin things worst,,and really dont have time for trial and error,,i thought i had to work up to 8pellets?on these labs?im not tryin to mess myself up this time ,,any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Is it possible you went up too fast and missed where your temps leveled out? -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 > > Is it possible you went up too fast and missed where your temps leveled > out? > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > yea i was afraid of that:( wuts the next step? should i lower? im at 2,2,1,1 for 3 days today oct 13th-98.1 oct 14th-98.1 oct 15th-98.3 i will feel hot mostly in mid afternoon(mostly after eating) btween 2- 4pm then feel cold,,havent had a bowel movement for 2-3days(i know from hypo), i been taking 2 pellets 730am,2 at 11;15am 1 at 315pm and 1 at bedtime i took the bedtime cuz i was wakin at 5-6am with nausea so im confused on high and low cortisol. i hope i didnt waste my money of diagnostech and they scewed my test:( i NEED to get on thyroid but feels im gettin nowere with this adrenal issue as of right now my adrenal hurts/upset stomach hot pink/red palms,and since yest.ive been gettin dizzy/liteheadiness,can you please help me out here??thanks,,o yea my pulse is low-normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 > > >>i was > fine wen i was not on iscort,,except the mornning witch was > depressed,,so wuts the next step?any ideas?<< > > If you were fine while not on Isocort wean off it. Get your thyroid levesl retested NOW to see if ther eis a problem there, you may not NEED thyroid. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > wean off,,lol,,i thought i was suppose to work up to 8pellets since i need to take t3 cuz of my high rt3? recap on labs: sep 17th labs 7-8am 6 depressed(13-24) 11-noon 9 normal (5-10) 4-5pm 7 normal (3-8) 11-mid.2 normal(1-4) cortisol burden 24 (23-42) DHEA 4(3-10) i know i said i felt better with out isocort,bu there is sum improvememnt with it, i went this morning and tested my freet3,freet4 and tsh will get them back in 48hours. i know i definately need it in the morning time,,but you said if i just take it then i wont be able to tolerrate t3?...so thats why i was workin up to 8pellets per ur instructions.i do get hot sumtimes actually round this time,,and angry ect.but is this sure to be high cortisol?and if it is, why do i feel like that sumtimes? what to do next? now im confused cuz i got diff.advice wen i 1st started(work up to 8pellets)now to wean?AGAIN,,lol,,can me gettin hot ect,be my body adjusting ?ect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 The Isocort is not to fix RT3. High or lwo cortisol can cause it as other things can too. Dieting can cause high RT3. There are probably many other things that cause it as well. BUt if you are feelig worse in the Isocort and you dpontl; graph your temps all the tie I cant help you knwo what is going on so you are better off not taking it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 The ramp up instrucitosn work unles oyu have ot go faster, but the dosing is right. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 > > The ramp up instrucitosn work unles oyu have ot go faster, but the > dosing is right. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets > ok is it necessary to tkae my dose at 730am? wen i took my saliva at the time i was gettin up at 7-8am but now i feeel like i can sleep in alittle sumtimes,,wut if i wanna wake at 8-9am can i just take my 1st dose then?or will this mess my rythm up..right now i set alarm for 730am jus to take my pill and force feed myself its getin annoying even tho i know we gotta do wut we gotta do to feel good:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 > > I take my first dose when i first get up no matter what time it is > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets > so taking my dose at diff.times if i get up at 8am or 9am or 7am it WONT mess me up?just make sure i take it wen i 1st wake(not including bathroom run at 5am) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Pardon me for jumping in here, but do you take it immediately upon rising before breakfast or do you wait and take it with food? Alone or with Thyroid meds? English Re: val I take my first dose when i first get up no matter what time it is -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I have to eat something with my HC so I eat and take my T3 and HC all together. And Benfotiamine and ALA and DHEA... LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hmmm, I thought I was supposed to take my thyroid meds before I ate. Is that wrong? I take Levoxyl and Cytomel, not sure if either is doing any good though. English Re: val I have to eat something with my HC so I eat and take my T3 and HC all together. And Benfotiamine and ALA and DHEA... LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I take thyroid with food but I am consistent with it so that is how I have built my doses. I take way too many meds to have to worry abotu conflicting with food so I don;t. I take my T3 sublingually though so most bypasses digestion anyway. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I recently started taking my thyroids 1/2 hour to an hour before eating and I dont see any difference, so I think I'll just go back to taking everything at once. It is so much easier! Thanks, English Re: val I take thyroid with food but I am consistent with it so that is how I have built my doses. I take way too many meds to have to worry abotu conflicting with food so I don;t. I take my T3 sublingually though so most bypasses digestion anyway. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 That's good then you dnt need the higher dose. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 OK, thanks - that never came through my e-mail for some reason. :/ What are the symptoms of RT3 toxicity....?? wrote: This was my answer: Have you had RT3 tested? If you are on a good dose of HC for you and even that tiny increase causes you serious problems it is liekly to be high RT3 causing toxicity. You could go bakc to old Westhroid dose and get temps level agfain and try raising the T3. I see you have had RT3 tested. but as long as you have continued takign ANY med wiht T4 in it, the RT3 that is bound ot the cell receptors may not clear. Thus I suspect you still have a probkem with it in spite of your levels coming down. Most people cannot clear RT3 fro mthe cell receptors withotu a 12 week period on T3 only. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 What are the symptoms of RT3 toxicity....?? Feeling owrse with thyroid increases, feelign hyper with still low temps when it si not adrenals, feeling really sick when you take natural thyroid. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I just have to wonder if this is all adrenal for me, since the worst of it started after switching around my HC doses, adding an extra 2.5 mg. and then accidentally taking an extra 1/2 pill of florinef and 2.5 mg. HC a little over a week ago. Right after that, boom!, bad yeast infection and felt worse than I had in many years - back to how I was when I was really sick with infected root canal. I feel like I've lost all the strides I'd made since beginning meds., although I do have a lot of energy, the big thing for me is how I look, and I look terrible, gaunt face, skin a weird texture, sunken eyes. I can't even stand to look in the mirror. Two weeks ago, my skin was smooth, I looked healthy and vibrant, now horrible. I just don't get it. Maybe I should go back to exactly what I was doing before I added HC and before the overdose and see if things return to my former healthier state??? .... wrote: What are the symptoms of RT3 toxicity....?? Feeling owrse with thyroid increases, feelign hyper with still low temps when it si not adrenals, feeling really sick when you take natural thyroid. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 >> I just don't get it. Maybe I should go back to exactly what I was doing before I added HC and before the overdose and see if things return to my former healthier state???<< That is always a good thing to try. BUT move slowly. Changing a HC dose too fast even if it si the right move can set you back. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 What do you mean changing it to fast....? I am currently on - 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 5 I added the extra 2.5 at night to be able to sleep better, which I did. Previously I was on - 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 2.5 Would it be ok to go back to this schedule (I just raised 1/4 grain of Westhroid on Friday, and felt horrible afterward)?? wrote: >> I just don't get it. Maybe I should go back to exactly what I was doing before I added HC and before the overdose and see if things return to my former healthier state???<< That is always a good thing to try. BUT move slowly. Changing a HC dose too fast even if it si the right move can set you back. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Completely discontinued?? Bill Kingsbury wrote: At 03:40 PM 10/30/2007, FortyNine wrote: > >I just have to wonder if this is all adrenal for me, since the worst of it started after switching around my HC doses, adding an extra 2.5 mg. and then accidentally taking an extra 1/2 pill of florinef and 2.5 mg. HC a little over a week ago. Right after that, boom!, bad yeast infection and felt worse than I had in many years - back to how I was when I was really sick with infected root canal. Florinef is an immune suppressant. Florinef should be discontinued for as long as any worsening colonization or infection continues -- to allow your immune system to recover. Take lots of oregano oil drops, etc., to help boost your immune system. Bill --- __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Yes, that's why people with systemic fungal infections are not supposed to take it. Cheri Re: Val At 03:40 PM 10/30/2007, FortyNine wrote: Florinef is an immune suppressant. Florinef should be discontinued for as long as any worsening colonization or infection continues -- to allow your immune system to recover. Take lots of oregano oil drops, etc., to help boost your immune system. Bill --- . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 But I was doing fine on it before I overdosed accidentally...... MsSquarepants wrote: Yes, that's why people with systemic fungal infections are not supposed to take it. Cheri Re: Val At 03:40 PM 10/30/2007, FortyNine wrote: Florinef is an immune suppressant. Florinef should be discontinued for as long as any worsening colonization or infection continues -- to allow your immune system to recover. Take lots of oregano oil drops, etc., to help boost your immune system. Bill --- .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Bill, Antibiotics make fungal infections worse. They are used for bacterial infections, not fungal. You need an anti-fungal treatment to kill those. Cheri Re: Val If possible. (Easier to do if you're taking a low dose, less than 0.1 mg.) Antibiotics or antifungals may be needed. You should keep your doctor informed. Bill . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanks, Bill...I didn't know any of this. I thought it would acutally help my immune system! Bill Kingsbury wrote: >--- wrote: >> >>Florinef is an immune suppressant. >> >>Florinef should be discontinued for as long as any >>worsening colonization or infection continues -- >>to allow your immune system to recover. --- At 04:46 PM 10/30/2007, FortyNine wrote: > >Completely discontinued?? If possible. (Easier to do if you're taking a low dose, less than 0.1 mg.) Antibiotics or antifungals may be needed. You should keep your doctor informed. Bill --- excerpts from various sources: http://www.drugs.com/mtm/fludrocortisone.html What should I discuss with my healthcare provider before taking fludrocortisone? Do not take fludrocortisone if you have a serious bacterial, viral, or fungal infection. Fludrocortisone weakens your body's immune response and thus its ability to fight infection. What should I avoid while taking fludrocortisone? Avoid sources of infection. Wash your hands frequently and keep them away from your mouth and eyes. Your immune system may be weakened while you are taking fludrocortisone. Notify your doctor if you are exposed to an infection such as chicken pox or measles. Avoid immunizations during treatment with fludrocortisone unless your doctor approves. --- another source: <http://www.rxfastfind.com/Order_Weight_Loss_online_generic_Florinef> Before using Fludrocortisone : Some medical conditions may interact with Fludrocortisone. Tell your doctor or pharmacist if you have any medical conditions, especially if any of the following apply to you: .. if you have measles, chickenpox, herpes infection of the eye, or any other type of bacterial, fungal, parasitic, or viral infection Important safety information: .. Fludrocortisone may lower your body's ability to fight infection, especially if taken over a longer period of time. Prevent infection by avoiding contact with people with colds or other infections. Notify your doctor of any signs of infection, including fever, sore throat, rash, or chills. --- another source: <http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?id=3862 & type=display> Contraindications: Fludrocortisone acetate tablets (corticosteroids) are contraindicated in patients with systemic fungal infections and in those with a history of possible or known hypersensitivity to these agents. Warnings: Corticosteroids may mask some signs of infection, and new infections may appear during their use. There may be decreased resistance and inability to localize infection when corticosteroids are used. If an infection occurs during fludrocortisone acetate therapy, it should be promptly controlled by suitable antimicrobial therapy. --- __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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