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>My SIL has just rung and said her 16 year old has been diagnosed with

aspergers autism, but on the upper scale of it.

my heart goes out to you all.

I've a couple of strands of hope for you though.

DS1 has mild Asperger's syndrome and we have read masses about it. One of

the most helpful and positive books we have read is by Tony Attwood -

Aspergers Syndrome a guide for parents and carers. In a chapter about the

future prospects for children with Aspergers he says that for many of them,

by the time they have reached their 30's they have adjusted to life in a way

that is acceptable to themselves and society. So even if it is a

misdiagnosis, there should be an expectation that he will eventually be able

to cope with more independence. His carers should be working with him

towards living as indepentdently as he can, which eventually might be on his

own. Perhaps moving into a very caring and supportive environment will help

him to grow to adulthood at a pace that is right for him.

As for him not seeming to fit the diagnosis. If they needed a label to get

someone else to care for him then he could have done a lot worse than

Aspergers. He and the other residents may get a lot out of him being a more

able person. DS1 has had a physically handicapped boy in his class since

primary school, they are now in Senior 2. The pair of them have got a lot

out of their friendship. The other lad is happy to take DS1 as he finds him

and intentionally distracts DS1 from undesirable activities! DS1 is happy

to keep and eye open for the other boy - simple things like picking things

he has dropped, opening crisp packets at break etc. They both get thanks

and praise from adults for caring for each other in these ways which builds

self esteem for them both.

DS1 had a whole bunch of congnitive function tests done, and the pattern of

results from them were what pointed to Asperger's. Lots of people were very

surprised when we mentioned it to them, some folks find him very odd, others

can't see that there is a problem. I think that a lot depends on the

quality of communication skills that the non-Asperger's person has, someone

who is sensitive and adaptive will modifiy the interactions to a style and

pace that suit. Someone with fewer skills and perhaps less adapability or

inclination might not and so have trouble getting on with the Asperger's

person. (Sorry to use labels). So perhaps your part of the family were in

a better position to interact with him than his mum.

I hope things start to look up for him now, perhaps being away from the

negative will help him to regain his motivation. Having a loving careing

Aunt, even if she is at a distance, is really important - lots of kids end

up in situations like this with no one even noticing that it has happened.

Can you kep in touch with him by writing and visiting / taking him out

occasionally? You might get his address from your SIL for sending a

birthday/ christmas card if she is feeling a bit reluctant to part with the

information otherwise.

Oh and it's fine by me if you want to rant - I'm sure everyone else will

agree, that's what we are here for!

Liz Goudie

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In a message dated 8/10/2002 8:31:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

BlueWaterlilies@... writes:

> I am getting pretty frustrated with

> this. Has anyone else had this experience with clomid?

>

Sure have and if you'd like you can join us on the trying to conceive list.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OSSG-TTC/

I was on 4mos of clomid, they said that I'd *O* 5--10 days after my last pill

but never did more like 11-14 days after my last clomid pill, and last month

I had a trigger shot to release my eggs. A progesterone draw is good. Do

you temp and chart? Its a good idea b/c then you'll know if you are O'ing or

not.I don't seem to O until day 17 or later. Just keep bd'ing every other

night (or every night if you're up for it)! And GOOD LUCK!

*~Joy~*

Lap RNY @ 491lbs

2/26/01

Dr. Bertha

town Memorial Hospital

Mommy to:

1-9-99

&

Saralyn

12-15-99

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In a message dated 8/10/2002 9:10:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kiwi@...

writes:

> With clomid your cervical mucus is scantier (is that a word) but you should

> still have some mucus to get a up to the moment idea of where you are in

> your cycle.

>

Yep its a word.. and also on clomid you can totally dry up too.. I did when I

was upped from 50mgs to 100mgs :0)

*~Joy~*

Lap RNY @ 491lbs

2/26/01

Dr. Bertha

town Memorial Hospital

Mommy to:

1-9-99

&

Saralyn

12-15-99

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Hello Shoshannah,

I never had that experience with clomid but I did have an experience with

OPK's.. I was taking them faithfully twice each day and the last test I got

didnt get a peak. Now I dont know the following morning I would have gotten a

peak I will never know but I went by my temps and cervical mucus.

With clomid your cervical mucus is scantier (is that a word) but you should

still have some mucus to get a up to the moment idea of where you are in your

cycle.

Another idea to get some more information on clomid, temping, advanced fertility

is go to www.babyzone.com .. Im not trying to plug the site but the women on TTC

message boards are EXCELLENT at these type of questions . Alot of them have been

doing it for years. unfortunately. Joy just started a list called for TTC'ers

also! She may have some advice for you also.

Wishing you the best!

Shonda

~WAHM to Kaitlyn(5), e(3)~

PG #3 - EDD: 4/15/03

check out: www.babyzone.com

frustrated

Hey Everybody,

I am becoming very frustrated with my current situation. I was recently put

on clomid. I have only taken it for one cycle. My ob/gyn gave me a chart

which said when to take clomid and when my greatest fertility would be. He

told me I could contintue with my ovulation prediction kit but that there

would be no need to do so.

This is the story. According to my ovulation prediction kit, I have not

ovulated yet. That does not match the dates my ob/gyn gave me on the chart.

According to that chart, I should have ovulated during the past six days. I

have to go in for a blood test next week to see if I am ovulated which will

let my doctor know if the clomid is working.

I am going to keep it up with the ovulation prediction kit as well. Tomorrow

morning, I will see if I am ovulating. I am getting pretty frustrated with

this. Has anyone else had this experience with clomid?

Sincerely frustrated,

Shoshannah

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Shoshannah,

Did he tell you that you could ovulate 4-10 days after the last pill?

There are even women who ovulate later than that while on Clomid. The first

month I took it, I ovulated on day 30 something. The next month they put me

on 100 mgs instead of 50 and I ovulated on day 20. Last month was the second

time on 100 mgs and that was the month I got pg.

What cycle day are you on? What is your dosage? I also used a clear

plan fertility monitor which seems a lot simpler that the OPK. Let me know

if there is anything more I can do to help.

Hugs,

EDD 3/25/03

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In a message dated 8/10/02 6:42:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Mommy2IrishTwnz@... writes:

> Yep its a word.. and also on clomid you can totally dry up too.. I did when

> I

> was upped from 50mgs to 100mgs :0)

>

>

I found that using Robitussin helped a lot in thinning out my mucus.

Hugs,

edd 3/25/03

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In a message dated 8/10/02 6:42:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Mommy2IrishTwnz@... writes:

> Yep its a word.. and also on clomid you can totally dry up too.. I did when

> I

> was upped from 50mgs to 100mgs :0)

>

>

I found that using Robitussin helped a lot in thinning out my mucus.

Hugs,

edd 3/25/03

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In a message dated 8/10/02 6:42:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Mommy2IrishTwnz@... writes:

> Yep its a word.. and also on clomid you can totally dry up too.. I did when

> I

> was upped from 50mgs to 100mgs :0)

>

>

I found that using Robitussin helped a lot in thinning out my mucus.

Hugs,

edd 3/25/03

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Were you ovulating before Clomid? I wasn't. I didn't

ovulate at all still with the first month of Clomid.

The second month I got one egg, so he gave me an HCG

shot to mature it....but it didn't fertilize. The

third month I got two eggs and another HCG shot. One

egg fertilized. I'm 27 weeks pregnant now. So hang

in there. I never bought an ovulation kit. I had to

go in so many days after I took the Clomid and run the

blood test and/or an ultrasound to see the egg.

Hang in there. I tried without medication for 7

months with no results. After the third round of

Clomid...BOOM. I think it is a great drug!

Nette

--- BlueWaterlilies@... wrote:

> Hey Everybody,

>

> I am becoming very frustrated with my current

> situation. I was recently put

> on clomid. I have only taken it for one cycle. My

> ob/gyn gave me a chart

> which said when to take clomid and when my greatest

> fertility would be. He

> told me I could contintue with my ovulation

> prediction kit but that there

> would be no need to do so.

>

> This is the story. According to my ovulation

> prediction kit, I have not

> ovulated yet. That does not match the dates my

> ob/gyn gave me on the chart.

> According to that chart, I should have ovulated

> during the past six days. I

> have to go in for a blood test next week to see if I

> am ovulated which will

> let my doctor know if the clomid is working.

>

> I am going to keep it up with the ovulation

> prediction kit as well. Tomorrow

> morning, I will see if I am ovulating. I am getting

> pretty frustrated with

> this. Has anyone else had this experience with

> clomid?

>

> Sincerely frustrated,

>

> Shoshannah

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I can only offer my experience. Both this time TTC-ing and back in 2000

when we conceived DD, my OB/GYN specifically told me to use OPK's, as Clomid

does NOT cause O at any specific date. I find I usually O somewhere between

cd19 and 25, and if I went by a " normal " chart I would never know I O'd

because that is very late for a " normal " cycle.

I would rely on the OPK's to tell you if maybe you are just O-ing later than

whatever chart you were given says you should.

TTC# 2, c2, cd26, Clomid 50mg days 5-9, 2ww

> frustrated

>

>

> Hey Everybody,

>

> I am becoming very frustrated with my current situation. I was

> recently put

> on clomid. I have only taken it for one cycle. My ob/gyn gave

> me a chart

> which said when to take clomid and when my greatest fertility

> would be. He

> told me I could contintue with my ovulation prediction kit but that there

> would be no need to do so.

>

> This is the story. According to my ovulation prediction kit, I have not

> ovulated yet. That does not match the dates my ob/gyn gave me on

> the chart.

> According to that chart, I should have ovulated during the past

> six days. I

> have to go in for a blood test next week to see if I am ovulated

> which will

> let my doctor know if the clomid is working.

>

> I am going to keep it up with the ovulation prediction kit as

> well. Tomorrow

> morning, I will see if I am ovulating. I am getting pretty

> frustrated with

> this. Has anyone else had this experience with clomid?

>

> Sincerely frustrated,

>

> Shoshannah

>

>

>

> Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3

>

>

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I can only offer my experience. Both this time TTC-ing and back in 2000

when we conceived DD, my OB/GYN specifically told me to use OPK's, as Clomid

does NOT cause O at any specific date. I find I usually O somewhere between

cd19 and 25, and if I went by a " normal " chart I would never know I O'd

because that is very late for a " normal " cycle.

I would rely on the OPK's to tell you if maybe you are just O-ing later than

whatever chart you were given says you should.

TTC# 2, c2, cd26, Clomid 50mg days 5-9, 2ww

> frustrated

>

>

> Hey Everybody,

>

> I am becoming very frustrated with my current situation. I was

> recently put

> on clomid. I have only taken it for one cycle. My ob/gyn gave

> me a chart

> which said when to take clomid and when my greatest fertility

> would be. He

> told me I could contintue with my ovulation prediction kit but that there

> would be no need to do so.

>

> This is the story. According to my ovulation prediction kit, I have not

> ovulated yet. That does not match the dates my ob/gyn gave me on

> the chart.

> According to that chart, I should have ovulated during the past

> six days. I

> have to go in for a blood test next week to see if I am ovulated

> which will

> let my doctor know if the clomid is working.

>

> I am going to keep it up with the ovulation prediction kit as

> well. Tomorrow

> morning, I will see if I am ovulating. I am getting pretty

> frustrated with

> this. Has anyone else had this experience with clomid?

>

> Sincerely frustrated,

>

> Shoshannah

>

>

>

> Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3

>

>

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I can only offer my experience. Both this time TTC-ing and back in 2000

when we conceived DD, my OB/GYN specifically told me to use OPK's, as Clomid

does NOT cause O at any specific date. I find I usually O somewhere between

cd19 and 25, and if I went by a " normal " chart I would never know I O'd

because that is very late for a " normal " cycle.

I would rely on the OPK's to tell you if maybe you are just O-ing later than

whatever chart you were given says you should.

TTC# 2, c2, cd26, Clomid 50mg days 5-9, 2ww

> frustrated

>

>

> Hey Everybody,

>

> I am becoming very frustrated with my current situation. I was

> recently put

> on clomid. I have only taken it for one cycle. My ob/gyn gave

> me a chart

> which said when to take clomid and when my greatest fertility

> would be. He

> told me I could contintue with my ovulation prediction kit but that there

> would be no need to do so.

>

> This is the story. According to my ovulation prediction kit, I have not

> ovulated yet. That does not match the dates my ob/gyn gave me on

> the chart.

> According to that chart, I should have ovulated during the past

> six days. I

> have to go in for a blood test next week to see if I am ovulated

> which will

> let my doctor know if the clomid is working.

>

> I am going to keep it up with the ovulation prediction kit as

> well. Tomorrow

> morning, I will see if I am ovulating. I am getting pretty

> frustrated with

> this. Has anyone else had this experience with clomid?

>

> Sincerely frustrated,

>

> Shoshannah

>

>

>

> Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3

>

>

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I could never tell if I even had mucus but one of my

friends told me about Robitussin so I was taking this

when I was on the Clomid and conceived our little one.

Doesn't hurt to try!

Nette

--- MzChe@... wrote:

>

> I found that using Robitussin helped a lot in

> thinning out my mucus.

>

> Hugs,

>

> edd 3/25/03

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I could never tell if I even had mucus but one of my

friends told me about Robitussin so I was taking this

when I was on the Clomid and conceived our little one.

Doesn't hurt to try!

Nette

--- MzChe@... wrote:

>

> I found that using Robitussin helped a lot in

> thinning out my mucus.

>

> Hugs,

>

> edd 3/25/03

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I could never tell if I even had mucus but one of my

friends told me about Robitussin so I was taking this

when I was on the Clomid and conceived our little one.

Doesn't hurt to try!

Nette

--- MzChe@... wrote:

>

> I found that using Robitussin helped a lot in

> thinning out my mucus.

>

> Hugs,

>

> edd 3/25/03

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Some types of Robitussin have a product in them that thins out mucus-

meant for helping you cough it up/blow it out easier. Clomid can

have a side effect of causing mucus to dry/thicken up which doesn't

allow the sperm to swim well. The agent in the robitussin helps

with this side-effect. You do have to get the right type of

robitussin as not all of them have it .

> Hi Nette,

>

> Can you explain to me how taking Robotussin helps Clomid.

>

> Shoshannah

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Some types of Robitussin have a product in them that thins out mucus-

meant for helping you cough it up/blow it out easier. Clomid can

have a side effect of causing mucus to dry/thicken up which doesn't

allow the sperm to swim well. The agent in the robitussin helps

with this side-effect. You do have to get the right type of

robitussin as not all of them have it .

> Hi Nette,

>

> Can you explain to me how taking Robotussin helps Clomid.

>

> Shoshannah

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Some types of Robitussin have a product in them that thins out mucus-

meant for helping you cough it up/blow it out easier. Clomid can

have a side effect of causing mucus to dry/thicken up which doesn't

allow the sperm to swim well. The agent in the robitussin helps

with this side-effect. You do have to get the right type of

robitussin as not all of them have it .

> Hi Nette,

>

> Can you explain to me how taking Robotussin helps Clomid.

>

> Shoshannah

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In a message dated 8/10/02 11:13:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ayasud@... writes:

> You do have to get the right type of

> robitussin as not all of them have it .

>

>

>

Actually, the Robitussin you have to purchase is the one WITHOUT the

additional letters. It has to be the one where guaffenisen(sp?) is the only

active ingredient. You don't have to buy the Robitussin brand name. I used

the Walgreen brand.

Hugs,

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In a message dated 8/10/02 11:13:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ayasud@... writes:

> You do have to get the right type of

> robitussin as not all of them have it .

>

>

>

Actually, the Robitussin you have to purchase is the one WITHOUT the

additional letters. It has to be the one where guaffenisen(sp?) is the only

active ingredient. You don't have to buy the Robitussin brand name. I used

the Walgreen brand.

Hugs,

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In a message dated 8/10/02 11:13:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ayasud@... writes:

> You do have to get the right type of

> robitussin as not all of them have it .

>

>

>

Actually, the Robitussin you have to purchase is the one WITHOUT the

additional letters. It has to be the one where guaffenisen(sp?) is the only

active ingredient. You don't have to buy the Robitussin brand name. I used

the Walgreen brand.

Hugs,

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Just so you all know its just regular robitussin (or tussin for generic

names) with no letters and it doesn't MAKE CM (cervical mucus) it helps thin

out what you already have. What I have found that makes me have SOME CM is

V8 Splash.. its the beta carotene that helps, My RE agrees and approves :0)

*~Joy~*

Lap RNY @ 491lbs

2/26/01

Dr. Bertha

town Memorial Hospital

Mommy to:

1-9-99

&

Saralyn

12-15-99

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Just so you all know its just regular robitussin (or tussin for generic

names) with no letters and it doesn't MAKE CM (cervical mucus) it helps thin

out what you already have. What I have found that makes me have SOME CM is

V8 Splash.. its the beta carotene that helps, My RE agrees and approves :0)

*~Joy~*

Lap RNY @ 491lbs

2/26/01

Dr. Bertha

town Memorial Hospital

Mommy to:

1-9-99

&

Saralyn

12-15-99

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