Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 >>My temps the last three days are: Average Oct 13 was 98.2 Average Oct 14 was 98.4 Average Oct 15 was 98.3 That seems pretty consistent don't you think, should I start to up my Armour back up now, I am feeling so much better.<< Yes this looks good to start workign on thyroid. Use VERY small increments, if using Armour, 15MG and you mayhave a dip in temps the first day or two, or some fluctuations, but as long as it levels out in 3 days again, you would be fine, IF when you increase it, the temps do nto level out in three days you might still need a tad more HC. If takign Cytomel, Iwould not start over 5- 6.25 until you see how oyu will react to it and be certain the adrenals are going to handle things well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hi, just got back from my doc appt going over my labs. They are as follows: Free T4 0.4 (0.6-1.2) Free T3 0.57 (0.75-1.78) TSH 9.85 (0.45-5.80) Cholesterol 361 (132-240) HDL 63 (35-80) LDL 246 (<101) Trigl. 258 (40-210) Cortisol Blood Test 11.9 (AM 5.0-24.0) These are terrible labs. I started HC on 9/12 and took blood test on 10/9. During course of starting HC, I had a cold which set me back and had an intestinal bout to boot. So days I was real bad I did not take my thyroid (60mg Armour) at all. But then only took that until the other message I sent you. I am now taking 75 mg as you ordered, so far so good. Will check those temps in a couple of days to see if they are close before I go on up. I'm sure I will have to up my HC as I accidentally took more Armour yesterday, so use to taking whole pill. Knocked me for a loop when I took 2 pills instead of 1 1/4; I had real bad low back pain, headache, a little shaky so I stress dosed the HC of 5mg, then 2 hours later took another as I still felt bad. Then I did okay. My blood pressure shot up also. I am sure my cholesterol is high because of cutting back on Armour. It has stayed within limits when I was on 2 grains a day a day before I started HC. So I am giong to take some Decaf Green Tea tablets for awhile to see if that will help. Wouldn't you say my thyroid is shot if only off it for very few days and then taking 60 mg every day otherwise. And that is taking the HC also. What do you think Val, I value your opinion. I need some help here. My new doc is pretty good with me doing as I ask....I think she has trouble with a TSH being suppressed when your numbers were like my old ones back in August. I bought some sea salt to take, can you tell me how I should take it please? Thanks........... > > Hi Val....I have been on HC now for a little over a month. I am taking > 10-5-5-2.5.....When I had the headaches and neckaches you had me up > from 20mg to 22.5, putting 5mg at nite. Well I didn't sleep well so as > you said I moved it to the 3rd dose of the day and I have been doing > very good. > > My temps the last three days are: > Average Oct 13 was 98.2 > Average Oct 14 was 98.4 > Average Oct 15 was 98.3 > That seems pretty consistent don't you think, should I start to up my > Armour back up now, I am feeling so much better. > > What do I look for as problems when I up my dosage of Armour back up to > 2 grains a day??? > > My itchy eyes are gone, I do not get dizzy when I stand up or sit up, I > overall feel stronger and can go upstairs easier. My bp still goes > down when stand up, but hope that will get better soon. I feel I am > making good progress, what do you think???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 >>Wouldn't you say my thyroid is shot if only off it for very few days and then taking 60 mg every day otherwise. And that is taking the HC also. What do you think Val, I value your opinion. I need some help here. My new doc is pretty good with me doing as I ask....I think she has trouble with a TSH being suppressed when your numbers were like my old ones back in August. << Yes your thyroid is pretty well shit from those labs. >>I bought some sea salt to take, can you tell me how I should take it please? Thanks...........<< Start with 1/4 tsp in waiter, o juice twice a day and build up to 1/2 tsp twice a day. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 > Yes your thyroid is pretty well shit from those labs. Val could you explain why my T3 went down so bad, the T4 is not so different from last one and of course the TSH went from .18 to 9.85. However these were done by a different lab, different doc. Does these low readings mean the HC is getting the thyroid to cells instead of staying in blood? > >>I bought some sea salt to take, can you tell me how I should take it > please? Thanks...........<< > > Start with 1/4 tsp in waiter, o juice twice a day and build up to 1/2 tsp twice a day. > Thanks I will do that. When do I know when to up to 1/2 tsp? Also is cholesterol high because of thyroid or the HC, I read it can cause it to go up. Where could I read more on that? Thanks I am just trying to understand what is going on with me. I just never dreamed my thyroid labs would be that bad while on HC....can you explain please > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 >>Val could you explain why my T3 went down so bad, the T4 is not so different from last one and of course the TSH went from .18 to 9.85. However these were done by a different lab, different doc. Does these low readings mean the HC is getting the thyroid to cells instead of staying in blood? << Exactly. Most peopple's T3 goes down after gettign adrenal support in place. >>When do I know when to up to 1/2 tsp?<< I take mine first thing in the AM adn in the evening. >>Also is cholesterol high because of thyroid or the HC, I read it can cause it to go up. Where could I read more on that? Thanks I am just trying to understand what is going on with me. I just never dreamed my thyroid labs would be that bad while on HC....can you explain please << Cholesterol used to be a diagnostic for hypothyroidism. High cholesterol is only from being hypoadn when you can raise tyour thyroid to proper levels it will come down. mine was ALOT worse than yours and is fine now. HIGH cortisol can cause cholesterol to go up as it blocks conversion of T4 to T3 making oyu more hypo, thus the cortiosl needs ot be RIGHT not too low nor too high -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Yes if temps start to fluctuate ti means cortiosl is low, btu I have known alot of people that needed 4 grains of Amrour but go up SLOWLY form here or you may bypass the sweet spot, -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 > > Yes if temps start to fluctuate ti means cortiosl is low, btu I have > known alot of people that needed 4 grains of Amrour but go up SLOWLY > form here or you may bypass the sweet spot, > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > Hi again VAL Well I have a fluctuation of temps since I started the 3 grains of Armour. My temps are as follows: Oct 30.....98.6 Oct 31.....98.8 (only 2 temps) Nov 1 .....98.5 Nov 2......98.2 (only 2 temps) Nov 3......98.1 Nov 4......98.0 Nov 5......98.8 Nov 6......98.4 Does this mean I should up my HC or should I wait a little longer for this to even out while on 3 grains a day. I take the Armour 60mg at the 8am, noon, 4pm when I take HC. I take the following HC: 8am, 10mg; noon, 5mg; 4pm, 5mg; bedtime, 2.5mg I am miserable most alll the day with headache, no get up and go lat all. I feel better about 3pm but it doesn't last too long. I have even had a little sweating tonite. What does that mean? I can't wait until I find my optimal HC & Armour and can get over all this. Thanks for all your help, you are a lifesaver to me and many other people as well. Keep up the good work, I will keep praying for you. > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I would increase HC a bit. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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