Re: Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

[Guest guest]

Are you mixing yours in a blender with some ice and water? Thats how I do

mine and I love it. Nice and think..I have the same kind that you do. As

far as more calories, yes there is less sugar but there is MORE PROTIEN which

we NEED...Our body USES it to heal and build muscle etc. Hence the great #

of calories...but many, if not most of us do not count the calories from the

protien because we USE it right up. I am not able to explain it as well as

michelle ( vitalady) but BOY can you tell the difference in your feeling,

weightloss,cravings and health when you are doing the protien!

((((((HUGS))))))) heather

In a message dated 10/8/02 9:47:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

sandsonik@... writes:

> I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> this one.

>

> I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> ounces!

>

> I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down $20+

> on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190 more

> calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I think you did a GREAT job of explaining it. But you're right -- not

many of us can 'splain it like Mom does/can.

I've heard it put this way, too -- Sugar (especially refined, white

sugar) provides energy but they are pretty much, " empty calories. " They burn

up quickly and leave you feeling empty, soon afterwards.

Protein calories are different. They're like house guests who come to

stay but with a purpose! Protein grams/calories help to build muscle

tissue and muscle tissue helps to burn .. You guessed it! FAT, fat and more

fat. The more muscle your body owns, the more fat/calories you can burn.

Women/men have posted about losing outrageous amounts of weight only

to feel pretty flabby with not a lot of energy. This can happen for a couple

of reasons -- Poor muscle tone or vitamin deficiencies.

I would look at your sugar grams and your protein grams with the

Carnation Instant Breakfast versus the ProBlend. How much protein does the

CIB give you?

It stinks that you no longer like that taste. Maybe someone (who

does) might be interested in buying what you have left...? Just a thought.

I tried a sample and wasn't crazy about it (post-op) but I recently ordered

another one, just to make sure. My preference is the Pure Whey Stack,

chocolate. It honestly doesn't take like something that's good for me, it's

that good.

Take care and God bless you!

Love,

Trace

Open RNY -- 9/5/02

Dr. Schechner, Norfolk and Va. Beach, VA

Height -- 5' 9 1/2 "

Starting weight -- 351.2

Current weight -- 319

Minus -- 32 pounds gone!

Gal. 2:20

[Guest guest]

> Are you mixing yours in a blender with some ice and water? Thats

how I do

> mine and I love it.

Thanks , I'll have to try it that way. That's the way I first

tried it, come to think of it. This time I just shook it up. It

just seemed like there was a strong vitamin-y taste!

I'll probably get used to it with time,

Sandy

[Guest guest]

What are you looking at???? 1 sc of PB55 =135 cal. 27.5g protein. Water has 0

cal. ?????

CIB + milk has no ABSORBABLE protein & a ton of sugar. It's kinda like

comparing a Snickers to a chicken breast. ????

m

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

this one.

I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

ounces!

I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down $20+

on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190 more

calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Sandy - Try adding some sweetner, or extra chocolate to it. Maybe peanut butter

or a banana? You may just be going through a phase, and may find that your

tastes change back. Don't give up!

Jeanne in WI

Age 39

Open RNY 05/21/2002

314/ 248.5/150-175

5' 8 "

djgraves@...

[Guest guest]

> What are you looking at???? 1 sc of PB55 =135 cal. 27.5g

protein. Water has 0 cal. ?????

>

> CIB + milk has no ABSORBABLE protein & a ton of sugar. It's kinda

like comparing a Snickers to a chicken breast. ????

I was making mine with two scoops because that's what the can says is

one serving. Should I be using only one scoop? So, one scoop of

PB55 has 130 calories and CIB has 70. Protein is definitely higher

in the PB55, though CIB has more vitamins.

Why isn't the protein in CIB absorbable? What makes a protein

absorbable? I know we have problems absorbing certain vitamins and

minerals but didn't think protein was one of them.

[Guest guest]

Try telling that to my support group *sigh* They were on a protein roll last

night *bit tongue till it is sore *

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

>

>

> I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> this one.

>

> I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> ounces!

>

> I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down $20+

> on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190 more

> calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, label reading is an acquired skill. So is questioning anyone who works

for a doc.

m

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

>

>

> I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> this one.

>

> I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> ounces!

>

> I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down $20+

> on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190 more

> calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Add the calories form milk to the CIB. Now add up all the sugar g. And the

sugar g in the PB55. See?

The protein in CIB might or might not be absorbable. But why get all those

EMPTY calories with that speck of protein when you can get a speck of calories

with a WAD of protein?

There are 8 elements that will bother us. We need the food to pass thru the

duodenum to get full digestion & absorption. So, even if you're proximal, you

will lose a portion of:

protein

iron

calcium

A, D, E

zinc

B12

Those are what need to be supplemented.

m

Re: Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> What are you looking at???? 1 sc of PB55 =135 cal. 27.5g

protein. Water has 0 cal. ?????

>

> CIB + milk has no ABSORBABLE protein & a ton of sugar. It's kinda

like comparing a Snickers to a chicken breast. ????

I was making mine with two scoops because that's what the can says is

one serving. Should I be using only one scoop? So, one scoop of

PB55 has 130 calories and CIB has 70. Protein is definitely higher

in the PB55, though CIB has more vitamins.

Why isn't the protein in CIB absorbable? What makes a protein

absorbable? I know we have problems absorbing certain vitamins and

minerals but didn't think protein was one of them.

[Guest guest]

Sandy mine didn't change till I tried pro score 100 now I can hardly swallow

pro blend( chocolate) but the cappuccino I have no problem with actually

thinking I will order some

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> this one.

>

> I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> ounces!

>

> I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down $20+

> on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190 more

> calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

>

> To Subscribe to 's weekly FREE Newsletter send an email to

GBCookbook-subscribe@...

>

[Guest guest]

Mom you would not believe how some of these postops look my God they were

pasty looking I was freaking out as far as weightloss yea look great body

wise but the color was oh so bad is this from protein deficiency

TN

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> >

> >

> > I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> > protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> > this one.

> >

> > I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> > through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> > ounces!

> >

> > I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> > you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down

$20+

> > on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> > make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> > count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> > liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> > sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190

more

> > calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I have a whole jug of mocha cappuccino that I will never use up as I'm

having a problem getting it down. If you're interested let me know.

Bev

camelady@...

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

>

>

> > I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> > protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> > this one.

> >

> > I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> > through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> > ounces!

> >

> > I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> > you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down $20+

> > on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> > make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> > count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> > liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> > sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190 more

> > calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To Subscribe to 's weekly FREE Newsletter send an email to

> GBCookbook-subscribe@...

> >

[Guest guest]

Bev I am interested let me now what you want for it . You can e-mail me in

private at lodom@...

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> >

> >

> > > I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> > > protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> > > this one.

> > >

> > > I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> > > through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> > > ounces!

> > >

> > > I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> > > you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down $20+

> > > on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> > > make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> > > count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> > > liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> > > sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190 more

> > > calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To Subscribe to 's weekly FREE Newsletter send an email to

> > GBCookbook-subscribe@...

> > >

[Guest guest]

There, there, honey. The bad dreams will go away. Some day.

m

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> >

> >

> > I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> > protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and liked

> > this one.

> >

> > I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> > through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> > ounces!

> >

> > I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops: maybe

> > you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down

$20+

> > on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how to

> > make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the calorie

> > count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast, which I

> > liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> > sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190

more

> > calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

SO is it protein deficiency that makes them look so pasty almost like chalk

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> > >

> > >

> > > I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> > > protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and

liked

> > > this one.

> > >

> > > I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> > > through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> > > ounces!

> > >

> > > I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops:

maybe

> > > you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down

> $20+

> > > on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how

to

> > > make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the

calorie

> > > count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast,

which I

> > > liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> > > sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190

> more

> > > calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I went to the local surgery support group meeting last night.. I wasnt able

to attend the support group that I usually go to in Atlanta due to a late

afternoon doctor appt.. Most of the post ops at the meeting were losing hair

like crazy, pale, and complaining of lack of energy. They were told to eat 1

- 2 meals a day.. no more than 2 meals.. and space them 6 hours apart.. Make

sure they were protein focused.. They are supposed to drink water if they

feel hunger in between their two meals.. and walk.. two ( 1oz ) meals six

hours apart, water, exercise .... etc..

I think they are all protein deficient.. The farthest out postie there was 8

months out.. I felt ancient.

They said that they didnt do a distal RNY because the procedure was too

malabsorptive for the patient to remain healthy. I strongly disagreed. They

think that the patients who are proximal get enough protein from 2 oz of food

a day, plus a chewable flintstone vitamin

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

Hugs,

from GA

open RNY 12/12/00

Revision 04/18/01

Revision 02/07/02

St wt.... 392

Cw.......187

Wt loss..-205

[Guest guest]

Dear Sis,

I would think protein deficiency would make them look pale, and chalky. I

was looking at some pics taken of me last November around Thanksgiving .,.. I

was very sick and malnourished at the time.. and I really look pasty and

chalky in those pics..

Hugs,

from GA

open RNY 12/12/00

Revision 04/18/01

Revision 02/07/02

St wt.... 392

Cw.......187

Wt loss..-205

[Guest guest]

Massive wt loss, low nutrition on a daily basis. They dont' have to be fully

deficient to look bad.

m

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> > >

> > >

> > > I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha Capuccino

> > > protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op and

liked

> > > this one.

> > >

> > > I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my way

> > > through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through 12

> > > ounces!

> > >

> > > I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to pre-ops:

maybe

> > > you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking down

> $20+

> > > on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on how

to

> > > make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the

calorie

> > > count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast,

which I

> > > liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer grams of

> > > sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but 190

> more

> > > calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> Sandy mine didn't change till I tried pro score 100 now I can

hardly swallow

> pro blend( chocolate) but the cappuccino I have no problem with

actually

> thinking I will order some

>

I'm starting to like the pro blend better than I did on that first

glass. It helps a lot to do it in the blender with ice, water, and

maybe some banana than having it just shaken with water, for some

reason. Considering I was on chocolate Carnation Instant Breakfast

for two weeks, maybe I just got too used to the taste of that to

appreciate the Pro Blend! It's getting better.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

hummmmmmm sounds like you were at my meeting sis I listen and do as mom says

lol

Re: Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> I went to the local surgery support group meeting last night.. I wasnt

able

> to attend the support group that I usually go to in Atlanta due to a late

> afternoon doctor appt.. Most of the post ops at the meeting were losing

hair

> like crazy, pale, and complaining of lack of energy. They were told to

eat 1

> - 2 meals a day.. no more than 2 meals.. and space them 6 hours apart..

Make

> sure they were protein focused.. They are supposed to drink water if they

> feel hunger in between their two meals.. and walk.. two ( 1oz ) meals six

> hours apart, water, exercise .... etc..

> I think they are all protein deficient.. The farthest out postie there was

8

> months out.. I felt ancient.

> They said that they didnt do a distal RNY because the procedure was too

> malabsorptive for the patient to remain healthy. I strongly disagreed.

They

> think that the patients who are proximal get enough protein from 2 oz of

food

> a day, plus a chewable flintstone vitamin

> Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

> Hugs,

>

>

> from GA

> open RNY 12/12/00

> Revision 04/18/01

> Revision 02/07/02

> St wt.... 392

> Cw.......187

> Wt loss..-205

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am seriously worried about some of these people

Re: Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

> Dear Sis,

> I would think protein deficiency would make them look pale, and chalky.

I

> was looking at some pics taken of me last November around Thanksgiving

..,.. I

> was very sick and malnourished at the time.. and I really look pasty and

> chalky in those pics..

> Hugs,

>

> from GA

> open RNY 12/12/00

> Revision 04/18/01

> Revision 02/07/02

> St wt.... 392

> Cw.......187

> Wt loss..-205

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just keep trying Sandy

TN

Re: Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

>

> > Sandy mine didn't change till I tried pro score 100 now I can

> hardly swallow

> > pro blend( chocolate) but the cappuccino I have no problem with

> actually

> > thinking I will order some

> >

>

> I'm starting to like the pro blend better than I did on that first

> glass. It helps a lot to do it in the blender with ice, water, and

> maybe some banana than having it just shaken with water, for some

> reason. Considering I was on chocolate Carnation Instant Breakfast

> for two weeks, maybe I just got too used to the taste of that to

> appreciate the Pro Blend! It's getting better.

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

> To Subscribe to 's weekly FREE Newsletter send an email to

GBCookbook-subscribe@...

>

[Guest guest]

I think their dr is crazy 1 - 2 meals aday and really no protein to

speak of. I feel so sorry for these people they have no idea what true

nutrution is all about. Sometimes i wish that te dr's who preform these

surgery should have the surgery they just have no idea.

Theresa~

*The most beautiful things in the world can not be

seen or even touched. They must be felt with the

heart. ~Helen Keller~

Re: Boy, I guess it's true about tastes changing!

I went to the local surgery support group meeting last night.. I wasnt

able

to attend the support group that I usually go to in Atlanta due to a

late

afternoon doctor appt.. Most of the post ops at the meeting were losing

hair

like crazy, pale, and complaining of lack of energy. They were told to

eat 1

- 2 meals a day.. no more than 2 meals.. and space them 6 hours apart..

Make

sure they were protein focused.. They are supposed to drink water if

they

feel hunger in between their two meals.. and walk.. two ( 1oz ) meals

six

hours apart, water, exercise .... etc..

I think they are all protein deficient.. The farthest out postie there

was 8

months out.. I felt ancient.

They said that they didnt do a distal RNY because the procedure was

too

malabsorptive for the patient to remain healthy. I strongly disagreed.

They

think that the patients who are proximal get enough protein from 2 oz of

food

a day, plus a chewable flintstone vitamin

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

Hugs,

from GA

[Guest guest]

This group of doctors base their aftecare on another doctor/s aftercare

program which leaves a lot to be desired. I am slowly educating those

patients who are coming to me and asking questions.. I hope more and more

will come to me and not follow the dietary instructions of these doctors.

One of the doctors had the open RNY procedure done in California and is

less than a year post op.. so still has a bit to learn about nutritional

needs of gastric bypass patients..

Take care

Hugs,

from GA

open RNY 12/12/00

Revision 04/18/01

Revision 02/07/02

St wt.... 392

Cw.......187

Wt loss..-205

[Guest guest]

well if they are not fully deficient they are almost there

Boy, I guess it's true about tastes

changing!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I'm sitting here trying to drink my Pro Blend 55 Mocha

Capuccino

> > > > protein drink. I had tried a few different samples pre-op

and

> liked

> > > > this one.

> > > >

> > > > I'm LOATHING it right now. I can't imagine ever drinking my

way

> > > > through this 2 pound jar, because I can barely get through

12

> > > > ounces!

> > > >

> > > > I can't believe my tastes changed that much. Word to

pre-ops:

> maybe

> > > > you should try samples AFTER your operation before plunking

down

> > $20+

> > > > on a huge jar of protein powder! Anyone have any ideas on

how

> to

> > > > make this stuff more palatable? Also a bit bummed that the

> calorie

> > > > count is so much higher than my Carnation Instant Breakfast,

> which I

> > > > liked just fine but wanted to find something with fewer

grams of

> > > > sugar. This is weird because it has 2 fewer g's of sugar but

190

> > more

> > > > calories! I'm not sure how that is even possible!

> > > >

> > > > Sandy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >