Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Take the boy off any of his electronic connections, e.g., television, computer, radio, cd-player, video-player; I think he'd come around--just a thought, who figures you could even take the light-bulb out of his room so he can't read in bed at night and send him to bed early--there's gotta be a way--those enzymes are just too important; my kid loved hers; wouldn't eat without them; still doesn't; if he wants to have a crack at REAL independence, he'd best eat them. Get Dad to explain it to him so it's not all up to you, too. n Rojas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Did you ever think that your son could be upset because Daddy's " sick " . I know that when I was pregnant and having problems Maureen would act out and she is 10. We forget that these kids deal with illness to some degree everyday and they cannot separate the differences when it is one of there primary caregivers. They automatically think the worst! I know even if I get a cold Moe freaks on me. I think she's afraid of what will happen to her if I can't take care of her. When I had the baby and spent 2 nights at the hospital it was very hard for her to leave me and she felt that I was not telling her the full truth on how I was feeling. They deal with so much at times like these you begin to realize they maybe " healthy " but they still go through pain on and off throughout the day. Meg Mom of 3 Moe 10yowcf, Kate 5yowcf & Jack infant wcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 What about just telling him okay, in a calm voice when he won't take the enzymes and then only offering him fruits for that meal. When he says he wants the mashed potatoes or whatever say, oh, sorry, those foods need enzymes. Have another banana. I think the less we act like we care the quicker it ends. I'm assuming your son is pretty young since you all are still giving him his enzymes. Sometimes our daughter who is almost four " chooses " the parent who can give her enzymes and we have used this method with good success. Don't worry, this phase will end soon enough (and another start, sorry...). Good luck. Lori, Mom to three, 1wcf enzyme rejection > Ok, I'm sorry if this happens to come twice, but the first one did > not post. has just recently decided that I can't give him > his enzymes. He wants his dad to do it and his dad can't. He starts > screaming every time I get the stuff out. My husband can't do it all > the time right now, because he's laid up for six weeks with a torn > ligament in his knee. Everything was going great until this past week. > > ANY SUGGESTIONS? > > > > > > *********************** > This is a secular list. > *********************** > > > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should > IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Our webpage is at http://www.eohio.net/malbright/cfparents.htm > > _________________________________________________ > Post message: cfparentsegroups > Subscribe: cfparents-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: cfparents-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: cfparents-owneregroups > _________________________________________________ > > WE HAVE A CHAT PAGE!!! > /chat/cfparents > _________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 How very wise you are>>>>>>>I really think that insecurity and abit of jealousy sometimes affects how some react to a given situation,daddy has been getting attention to ,due to his " hurt " ....That diverted attention some what to him..I think children want to be a part of the " action " .Maybe I am wrong--but--Daddy could have the enzymes with him and your son would have to go to him for them each time...He might get tired of that quickly...Sometimes we want things .......we really don't want........?????????? We just want to see if we are important enough to get our own way......kinda thing... I don't know if I have just talked circles, but ,,,,,,,,,,GOOD LUCK and lots of love & hugs,,,,,They always work too.:) LOVE, GrandmomBEV Re: enzyme rejection Did you ever think that your son could be upset because Daddy's " sick " . I know that when I was pregnant and having problems Maureen would act out and she is 10. We forget that these kids deal with illness to some degree everyday and they cannot separate the differences when it is one of there primary caregivers. They automatically think the worst! I know even if I get a cold Moe freaks on me. I think she's afraid of what will happen to her if I can't take care of her. When I had the baby and spent 2 nights at the hospital it was very hard for her to leave me and she felt that I was not telling her the full truth on how I was feeling. They deal with so much at times like these you begin to realize they maybe " healthy " but they still go through pain on and off throughout the day. Meg Mom of 3 Moe 10yowcf, Kate 5yowcf & Jack infant wcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 I forgot to put 's age, he's 17 almost 18 months. >From: Mcesana@... >Reply-To: cfparentsegroups >To: cfparentsegroups >Subject: Re: enzyme rejection >Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 21:28:27 EST > >Take the boy off any of his electronic connections, e.g., television, >computer, >radio, cd-player, video-player; I think he'd come around--just a thought, >who figures you could even take the light-bulb out of his room so he >can't read in bed at night and send him to bed early--there's gotta be a >way--those >enzymes are just too important; my kid loved hers; wouldn't eat without >them; >still doesn't; if he wants to have a crack at REAL independence, he'd best >eat them. Get Dad to explain it to him so it's not all up to you, too. >n Rojas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Scout has pulled this on me once or twice. I don't let her eat unless she has the enzymes - period. It is a waste of food to eat without them. I have also done the more traditional time-out thing. Lori enzyme rejection > Well, everything had been going fine until the last few days. was > atking his pills whole, on applesauce, without any trouble. Then he all of a > sudden decided he didn't want to take them. That is take them from me. He'll > take them from my husband just fine but he screams bloody murder when I even > take the stuff out. I can't really rely on my husband to do it right now, > seeing as he's down with a torn ligamnet in his knee, for at least the next > six weeks. We actually had a screaming match yesterday to try and get > to take his enzymes. I tried every trick, but he's too smart for > them. > HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > *********************** > This is a secular list. > *********************** > > > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should > IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Our webpage is at http://www.eohio.net/malbright/cfparents.htm > > _________________________________________________ > Post message: cfparentsegroups > Subscribe: cfparents-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: cfparents-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: cfparents-owneregroups > _________________________________________________ > > WE HAVE A CHAT PAGE!!! > /chat/cfparents > _________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Oh! That does make a difference--'s age! Wow! A fine new year to all of your family and to all on the list, sorry about the stupid suggestions aimed at a 6- year-old, for gosh sakes, n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 My grandson 22 months wcf, started to reject the applesauce and enzyme mixture at about that age. Now we just open the capsule and dump it in his mouth and he swallows them that way. We usually wait until he has eaten part of his meal, since his intake is not always what we think it will be. Just make sure he swallows them all and no beads are left in his mouth. I hate to admit it, but sometimes we have to resort to the old " swallow or choke method " when it comes to meds. Good Luck mj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 That is a great idea having them do it themselves. My Moe just goes through periods where she doesn't want to take them at all and she can easily swallow them at age 10. She just gets stubborn (Must be the Italian in her couldn't possibly her Irish Blood It helps to here that others think that it is a chore to give the enzymes to little ones I was feeling guilty about that with Jack. Moe was not on them till she was 8yrs old. So she has always swallowed them on her own. The vest is also a great thing because she is in charge of her CPT. Now if only we could do something about the ATTITUDE! Girls are a blessing but at least I got a boy the third time around! Meg Mom of 3 Moe 10yowcf, Kate 5yowcf & Jack infant wcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 , Eilish still has her enzymes in puree. She's very good at taking them and we've never had a problem. Our problem was that she'd go into the pantry and sneak things like bags of chips and hide under her bed and eat them. That took along time to get it through her head that she can eat them but with enzymes first. So eventually we put a little hook on the pantry door and that way she needs to ask. We leave her fruit bars, popcorn etc. on the bench for her as she knows that she doesnt need enzymes for them, and she always knows she can have fairy floss without enzymes. She says when she's 31 (everythings 31- my age) she'll swallow them! It can be so frustrating as their are so many other things that need done so when you have to mess about with something so simple (but not to the little ones) its frustrating. I'd pretend it doesnt bother you. Eilish opens her own enzymes and puts them in the egg cup, adds to puree and feeds them to herself, and she likes doing that, maybe you could try that. Good luck (mummy to Liam 6 wocf and Eilish 3 wcf) enzyme rejection > > > > Ok, I'm sorry if this happens to come twice, but the first one did > > not post. has just recently decided that I can't give him > > his enzymes. He wants his dad to do it and his dad can't. He starts > > screaming every time I get the stuff out. My husband can't do it all > > the time right now, because he's laid up for six weeks with a torn > > ligament in his knee. Everything was going great until this past week. > > > > ANY SUGGESTIONS? > > > > > > > > > > > > *********************** > > This is a secular list. > > *********************** > > > > > > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should > > IN NO WAY > > be construed as medical advice. > > > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR > TREATMENTS. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Our webpage is at http://www.eohio.net/malbright/cfparents.htm > > > > _________________________________________________ > > Post message: cfparentsegroups > > Subscribe: cfparents-subscribeegroups > > Unsubscribe: cfparents-unsubscribeegroups > > List owner: cfparents-owneregroups > > _________________________________________________ > > > > WE HAVE A CHAT PAGE!!! > > /chat/cfparents > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > *********************** > This is a secular list. > *********************** > > > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should > IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Our webpage is at http://www.eohio.net/malbright/cfparents.htm > > _________________________________________________ > Post message: cfparentsegroups > Subscribe: cfparents-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: cfparents-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: cfparents-owneregroups > _________________________________________________ > > WE HAVE A CHAT PAGE!!! > /chat/cfparents > _________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 No don't open them and put in the mouth . when you put them directly in the mouth they may stay in the mouth to long and not get properly digested with the food. and also some of them are not coated and can not have saliva on them . the best way to take enzymes are before,during and after your meal you divide them up into 3 ,so you have a mixture of food and enzymes together. if he don't want applesauce try pudding or even just whipped topping chris mom of 3 brandon 12yrs wcf On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:07:48 -0600, cfparentsegroups wrote: > > My grandson 22 months wcf, started to reject the applesauce and enzyme > mixture at about that age. Now we just open the capsule and dump it in > his mouth and he swallows them that way. We usually wait until he has > eaten part of his meal, since his intake is not always what we think it > will be. > > Just make sure he swallows them all and no beads are left in his mouth. > I hate to admit it, but sometimes we have to resort to the old " swallow > or choke method " when it comes to meds. > > Good Luck > mj _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 , I forgot to mention before. We were told by the hsp. diet. never to open them and out then DIRECTLY into the mouth as if they are not washed away properly then they can cause mouth ulcers. Also the coating is specially made so the enzymes are not digested in the stomache but goes to the pancrease and works there. Id check with your clinic before you open them anymore. If their put into sauce/puree then thats find as they all get swallowed. julie Re: enzyme rejection > No don't open them and put in the mouth . when you put them directly in the > mouth they may stay in the mouth to long and not get properly digested with > the food. and also some of them are not coated and can not have saliva on > them . > the best way to take enzymes are before,during and after your meal > you divide them up into 3 ,so you have a mixture of food and enzymes > together. > if he don't want applesauce try pudding or even just whipped topping > > chris > mom of 3 > brandon 12yrs wcf > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:07:48 -0600, cfparentsegroups wrote: > > > > > My grandson 22 months wcf, started to reject the applesauce and enzyme > > mixture at about that age. Now we just open the capsule and dump it in > > his mouth and he swallows them that way. We usually wait until he has > > eaten part of his meal, since his intake is not always what we think it > > will be. > > > > Just make sure he swallows them all and no beads are left in his mouth. > > I hate to admit it, but sometimes we have to resort to the old " swallow > > or choke method " when it comes to meds. > > > > Good Luck > > mj > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > *********************** > This is a secular list. > *********************** > > > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should > IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Our webpage is at http://www.eohio.net/malbright/cfparents.htm > > _________________________________________________ > Post message: cfparentsegroups > Subscribe: cfparents-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: cfparents-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: cfparents-owneregroups > _________________________________________________ > > WE HAVE A CHAT PAGE!!! > /chat/cfparents > _________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 Meg, After writing this morning about letting Eilish open and mix her own enzymes I thought I'd try her swallowing one. Well down it went no problem. I was 28 before I could swallow a capsule and she's 3. But tonight at dinner it seemed to gag her so she just opened it again and added puree. Oh well we'll keep trying. I definetly think girls are much harder than boys with their attitude. All my friends with kids who have both sexes say the girl was the harder. I often say that at clinic when they goo over Eilish and she sits there lapping it up like butter wouldnt melt in her mouth, what a handful she is. She awfully stubborn and very strong willed. But I just keep thinking that at least she wont let the hsp. staff walk over her when the time comes for her to stay on her own (knowing me probably when she's 21). But some days I could strangle her with her mouth. She's getting very cheeky and awfully mean to her brother how's 3 years older. Im hoping it's an age thing with girl's as Liam has alway's been good. Although I alway's tell her she's good, hoping to encourage good behaviour. She's going through that " i dont love you anymore mummy " stage, which I hate to hear, but I just tell her " Oh well I still love you. Then she just wanders off. Poor school teacher if she doesn't change. But I love her to bit's and wouldn't trade her for anything, cf included (well most of the time LOL). (mummy to Liam 6 wocf & Eilish 3 wcf) Re: enzyme rejection > > That is a great idea having them do it themselves. My Moe just goes > through periods where she doesn't want to take them at all and she can easily > swallow them at age 10. She just gets stubborn (Must be the Italian in her > couldn't possibly her Irish Blood It helps to here that others think that > it is a chore to give the enzymes to little ones I was feeling guilty about > that with Jack. Moe was not on them till she was 8yrs old. So she has > always swallowed them on her own. The vest is also a great thing because she > is in charge of her CPT. Now if only we could do something about the > ATTITUDE! Girls are a blessing but at least I got a boy the third time > around! > > Meg > Mom of 3 > Moe 10yowcf, Kate 5yowcf & Jack infant wcf > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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