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--- TK wrote:

> >

> > Why is it that DMPS can be used continually?

>

>

> TK--- Because it does not cause the same problems

> ALA and DMSA do.

What " problems " are they likely to cause?

I heard that DMSA causes kidney problems, is this ONLY

in bad protocols (IV or huge 3x weely doses?) Or is it

going to cause me problems.

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Could you mention more specifically which problems

each (DMSA, ALA, DMPS) causes? I looked it up and the

only thing I could understand is DMSA might cause low

white blood cells. Other than that it just sounds like

they are all very dangerous?

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Also any more information on the continual DMPS dose

reasoning? I dont ever remember reading that maybe let

me know a page # or somethign? This stuff can be

overwhelming!

> TK--- DMSA is fine if you tollerate it, DMPS just

> has some advantages.

Anything I should look for in " tolerating " ? I am

taking 12.5 every 3 hours and doing okay (No clear

pattern of extremely worse during chelation, although

I've got so many different symptoms being totally

unpredicatable that its near impossible to tell!

Are the advantages anything other than just the every

8 hour dosing? That isn't a big deal to me,

fortunately. Does DMPS get mercury out " better " ?

> > So, I just started doing DMSA on my own.

>

> --- Which is appropriate as he doesn't know what he

> is talking about

> anyway.

Right, I am just so glad these lists & stuff are here.

Otherwise I would have done the IV DMPS. Pretty scary!

>

>

>

> >

> > I thin it would be extremely difficult to get an

> Rx

> > for DMPS from him. Any advice on whether this is

> > " worth " it or can I do okay just sticking with

> DMSA

> > for a while then adding ALA.

>

>

> --- stick with the dmsa & ALA if they are working

DMSA - I am taking 12.5. I seem to be tolerating this

reasonably well. How " high " do I have to get before

chelation really " works " ?

I am thining the recommendation is 1/8 to 1/2 mg per

pound of boday weight, so for like 140 pound me that

is 17.5-70 mgs. So, if I first put 2 DMSA capsules

divided up into 3 empty gel caps (for a dose of 16.7

each round, then after many rounds get up to 25 mgs is

it okay to just stay at that dose 25 mgs DMSA

" forever " ? I read in andy's book that higher doses

just give more side effects? So would 25mgs be

reasonable to just do for a very long time on the

" good " schedlue (every 3 hours, for 3-7 days then that

many off)

Am I going to get kidney failure from that dose? I am

just so worried aobut that after reading it somewhere.

Also - ALA, I have never taken this yet, for

chelation. How do I know when to add it in? I didn't

have dental amalgams to have " out " to have a 3 month

mark. I dont even have any known exposure (other than

eating some tuna - I haven't done that for quite a

while....speaking of that , are there any fish that

are o to eat? I haven't had any since nov and kind of

miss it!

Am I correct that in understanding for someone of my

weight (130-140 ish - varies constantly) that I would

eventually want to get up to 50mgs DMSA, then do a

urine test to be sure I got rid of all the mercury in

my " non brain body " (sorry, that sounds weird, I dont

know how to say it.) Basically the idea that i need to

not have so much mercury floating around me when

taking ALA so that the ALA doesn't shove it into my

brain......So when i dont have mercury from the DMSA

only some hidden in my brain, then start ALA to get it

out of the brain, and start ALA very slowly and also

work up to 50 mgs eventually?

Also how long would I need to do the DMSA ath the

" full 50 mg dose " before checking to make sure it

removed all non-brain mercury?

Also I think the Andy's website (and book) say to

chelate for about a year after you think you are

finished. I was just wondering (because I heard in

general that ALA is good/protective to the liver) if

there would be any problem in just figuring on doing

it " forever' basically.....would that be okay or not?

(Assuming that I do it say every 3 hours for 3-7 days,

then wait at least that many, etc) If so would I just

do ALA alone at that point?

>

> Is DMSA likely to

> > continue to be available for the next couple

> years?

>

>

>

> TK--- why wouldn't it ?

>

>

>

> >

> > --- TK wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > TK--- You can chelate with DMPS alone

> continually if

> > > your body can

> > > handle it, one of the advantages of using DMPS.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I am having tobuble understanding something:

> you

> > > said

> > > > > THREE WEEK ROUNDS? Is that meaning 21 days

> in a

> > > row?

> > > > > If so could you please explain because I

> thought

> > > 7 was

> > > > > the max?!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yep, I have been doing THREE WEEK ROUNDS with

> > > DMPS, 21 days in a

> > > row.

> > > > I'd like to go longer. Each time I have

> stopped

> > > because of

> > > sickness

> > > > or fatigue. I don't really know if the 'as

> many

> > > days off as days

> > > on'

> > > > rule applies to DMPS. (Someone would have to

> ask

> > > Andy). I feel so

> > > > crappy when I stop chelation that I am going

> to do

> > > the DMPS

> > > > continuously as much as possible. I just took

> a

> > > week off and I

> > > could

> > > > hardly stand myself. Started chelating again

> a

> > > couple of days ago

> > > and

> > > > I feel almost human.

> > > >

> > > > I was just planning to do this until I got to

> the

> > > point where I

> > > could

> > > > add ALA. I can add ALA now, for 3 day rounds,

> but

> > > I want to

> > > continue

> > > > with the continuous DMPS because of the pain

> flare

> > > ups that I have

> > > > been having that seem to be much worse when I

> stop

> > > the DMPS.

> > > >

> > > > I will likely take days off, just not sure

> when

> > > and how many.

> > > Depends

> > > > on how I feel.

> > > >

> > > > I think one week on/one week off is for DMSA

> and

> > > ALA. I can't

> > > > actually picture myself doing anything longer

> that

> > > three days with

> > > > those because I have serious trouble waking

> for

> > > the night doses.

> > > >

> > > > J

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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