Re: Stress as Cause--Re: Digest Number 849

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Liz

I would agree more with your take on this. I was happy as a clam the day my

arthritis hit, but do agree that stress makes the disease worse, and

moreover, having a painful chronic disease makes it all the more difficult

to deal with stressful situations which we come upon.

Jean

>

>> How many of you were severly emotionally depressed or terribly

>> stressed just prior to the onset of your disease?

>

> Negative here, I had the first signs of this since childhood, and had

> very little stress then. Stress does seem to make me worse symptomatically,

> though, reducing my ability to cope with the pain and fatigue, and making me

> more likely to catch other illnesses that contribute to flare-ups by

> generally running me down.

> I also flared badly after drastic hormonal changes, like after puberty,

> after miscarriages, and after childbirth and nursing. So I have to vote

> against stress being a direct causative factor, but in favor of it being an

> exacerbating factor, once the disease is there, at least in my own

> particular case.

> I've noticed a lot of people on the fibro newsgroup say that their fibro

> was triggered by a shock or other stressful experience like a surgery. I

> wonder if it is not the case that these diseases lurk for a long time,

> producing little or no symptoms, then a stress/shock can make it worse and

> bring it into the foreground. It is easy to dismiss the early symptoms like

> fatigue, achiness, sleep problems, or to assign them to other causes or just

> plain hypochondria/whining, just ask some of the doctors in my past! #; 0

> Do I believe that my health problems are the fault of my inability to keep

> my cool, my love for chaos, my overgrown imagination, the vast (not!)

> complications of my former humble non-Type-A career goals?......well, better

> men and women than me have said as much, LOL, but I'm not buying into that.

> <G> Now don't anyone get stressed out over my humble opinions......Be well,

> and Blessings to you all, Liz G

>

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[Guest guest]

My arthritis RA was definitely brought on by stress--it hit one year after I got

married and I was under major stress, so much that my personality even changed

just prior to RA and people commented on it.

Liz

I would agree more with your take on this. I was happy as a clam the day my

arthritis hit, but do agree that stress makes the disease worse, and

moreover, having a painful chronic disease makes it all the more difficult

to deal with stressful situations which we come upon.

Jean

>

>> How many of you were severly emotionally depressed or terribly

>> stressed just prior to the onset of your disease?

>

> Negative here, I had the first signs of this since childhood, and had

> very little stress then. Stress does seem to make me worse

symptomatically,> though, reducing my ability to cope with the pain and

fatigue, and making me

> more likely to catch other illnesses that contribute to flare-ups by

> generally running me down.

> I also flared badly after drastic hormonal changes, like after puberty,

> after miscarriages, and after childbirth and nursing. So I have to vote

> against stress being a direct causative factor, but in favor of it being an

> exacerbating factor, once the disease is there, at least in my own

> particular case.

> I've noticed a lot of people on the fibro newsgroup say that their fibro

> was triggered by a shock or other stressful experience like a surgery. I

> wonder if it is not the case that these diseases lurk for a long time,

> producing little or no symptoms, then a stress/shock can make it worse and

> bring it into the foreground. It is easy to dismiss the early symptoms

like> fatigue, achiness, sleep problems, or to assign them to other causes or

just

> plain hypochondria/whining, just ask some of the doctors in my past! #; 0

> Do I believe that my health problems are the fault of my inability to keep

> my cool, my love for chaos, my overgrown imagination, the vast (not!)

> complications of my former humble non-Type-A career goals?......well,

better> men and women than me have said as much, LOL, but I'm not buying into

that.

> <G> Now don't anyone get stressed out over my humble opinions......Be

well,> and Blessings to you all, Liz G

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Liz,

You mentioned that you have had your illness since childhood. I have a close

friend whose daughter has R.A. and got it during childhood. I don't know how

old you were, but I had a research scientist tell me that he knows of proof

that contaminated vaccines have given R.A. and other diseases to children.

My friend's daughter had just gotten a booster shot, before the onset of her

illness.

Something to think about.

The scientist told me that he still gets vaccines for his children, but gives

them immuno-boosters, before receiving them.

Don't know if there is any validity to this, but it is something to think

about.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Now this brings up an interesting point-I came down with reactive arthritis

a few months after beginning allergy shots. I have always wondered if the

allergy shots were the beginning of my trouble.

Jean

> Liz,

> You mentioned that you have had your illness since childhood. I have a close

> friend whose daughter has R.A. and got it during childhood. I don't know how

> old you were, but I had a research scientist tell me that he knows of proof

> that contaminated vaccines have given R.A. and other diseases to children.

>

> My friend's daughter had just gotten a booster shot, before the onset of her

> illness.

> Something to think about.

>

> The scientist told me that he still gets vaccines for his children, but gives

> them immuno-boosters, before receiving them.

>

> Don't know if there is any validity to this, but it is something to think

> about.

>

> Carol

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[Guest guest]

Dear Liz,

I also think stress makes the diseases much worse and harder to bear. I

was forced to move to Chicago by my husband's transfer. I had to leave a

wonderful, perfect job where I was well loved and respected and I had to

leave all of my friends. Right at that same time, I switched from mino to

doxy and got the herx that lasted a long time. I was so depressed and in

bad pain, and I had to handle all the decisions and unpacking and children's

problems with the move as well. I think my attitude and emotional state and

my husband's dismay at my inability to be happy in my new environment (I

have always been very flexible and optimistic) made the doxy not be able to

function for me as well as it should. I wasn't able to work or to meet

anyone or even enjoy my beautiful new house. It was all overwhelming. I

feel like I am finally getting over that now, but I hate that I wasted two

and half years of my life with sadness and lack of pain management.

love,

Gloria

[Guest guest]

well, that has me thinking....

Yes to stress...a custody battle and a household move...but then again, I got severe flu / or flu symptoms the day prior to, day of, and day after move. Then the hives arrived. If a hunter (man with knife) had magically appeared that night I'd have paid him to skin me! Then from hives which were manageable, to the following week of hives in the hospital - with iv steroids - then from there to the rest of the 145 symptoms I go 'round and 'round with.

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[Guest guest]

Hello:

Stress has been a major factor in my case. After a very stressful year at

work, RA set in and now if I let stress get out of control, it affects me.

Mado

Re: Stress as Cause--Re: rheumatic Digest Number 849

>>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 6:05 AM

>>

>

>>Liz

>>

>>I would agree more with your take on this. I was happy as a clam the day

my

>>arthritis hit, but do agree that stress makes the disease worse, and

>>moreover, having a painful chronic disease makes it all the more difficult

>>to deal with stressful situations which we come upon.

>>

>>Jean

>>

>>

>>>

>>>> How many of you were severly emotionally depressed or terribly

>>>> stressed just prior to the onset of your disease?

>>>

>>> Negative here, I had the first signs of this since childhood, and had

>>> very little stress then. Stress does seem to make me worse

symptomatically,

>>> though, reducing my ability to cope with the pain and fatigue, and

making me

>>> more likely to catch other illnesses that contribute to flare-ups by

>>> generally running me down.

>>> I also flared badly after drastic hormonal changes, like after puberty,

>>> after miscarriages, and after childbirth and nursing. So I have to vote

>>> against stress being a direct causative factor, but in favor of it being

an

>>> exacerbating factor, once the disease is there, at least in my own

>>> particular case.

>>> I've noticed a lot of people on the fibro newsgroup say that their fibro

>>> was triggered by a shock or other stressful experience like a surgery.

I

>>> wonder if it is not the case that these diseases lurk for a long time,

>>> producing little or no symptoms, then a stress/shock can make it worse

and

>>> bring it into the foreground. It is easy to dismiss the early symptoms

like

>>> fatigue, achiness, sleep problems, or to assign them to other causes or

just

>>> plain hypochondria/whining, just ask some of the doctors in my past! #;

0

>>> Do I believe that my health problems are the fault of my inability to

keep

>>> my cool, my love for chaos, my overgrown imagination, the vast (not!)

>>> complications of my former humble non-Type-A career goals?......well,

better

>>> men and women than me have said as much, LOL, but I'm not buying into

that.

>>> <G> Now don't anyone get stressed out over my humble opinions......Be

well,

>>> and Blessings to you all, Liz G

>>>

>>>

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Mine came on after a particularly stressful episode in an already stressful

new job ( I was nearly a year into it). I thought I was having a nervous

breakdown! Couldn't stop crying. I regained my equilibrium after about a

week and after calling a meeting to discuss it.But then the pain and

swelling started and it became torture even to walk. Once diagnosed, I

concluded the stress had brought it on.

Gail

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>From: Probert <elbows@...>

> " Liz G. " <pioneer@...>, rheumaticegroups

>Subject: Re: Stress as Cause--Re: rheumatic Digest Number 849

>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 6:05 AM

>

>Liz

>

>I would agree more with your take on this. I was happy as a clam the day my

>arthritis hit, but do agree that stress makes the disease worse, and

>moreover, having a painful chronic disease makes it all the more difficult

>to deal with stressful situations which we come upon.

>

>Jean

>

>

>>

>>> How many of you were severly emotionally depressed or terribly

>>> stressed just prior to the onset of your disease?

>>

>> Negative here, I had the first signs of this since childhood, and had

>> very little stress then. Stress does seem to make me worse symptomatically,

>> though, reducing my ability to cope with the pain and fatigue, and making me

>> more likely to catch other illnesses that contribute to flare-ups by

>> generally running me down.

>> I also flared badly after drastic hormonal changes, like after puberty,

>> after miscarriages, and after childbirth and nursing. So I have to vote

>> against stress being a direct causative factor, but in favor of it being an

>> exacerbating factor, once the disease is there, at least in my own

>> particular case.

>> I've noticed a lot of people on the fibro newsgroup say that their fibro

>> was triggered by a shock or other stressful experience like a surgery. I

>> wonder if it is not the case that these diseases lurk for a long time,

>> producing little or no symptoms, then a stress/shock can make it worse and

>> bring it into the foreground. It is easy to dismiss the early symptoms like

>> fatigue, achiness, sleep problems, or to assign them to other causes or just

>> plain hypochondria/whining, just ask some of the doctors in my past! #; 0

>> Do I believe that my health problems are the fault of my inability to keep

>> my cool, my love for chaos, my overgrown imagination, the vast (not!)

>> complications of my former humble non-Type-A career goals?......well, better

>> men and women than me have said as much, LOL, but I'm not buying into that.

>> <G> Now don't anyone get stressed out over my humble opinions......Be well,

>> and Blessings to you all, Liz G

>>

>>

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