Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 OK - I'm confused! Some of you say glandulars are OK, others say cortef is better. I would get some cortef, but I live in Europe, and mastersmarketing.com doesn't ship to Europe. Where else could I get it from? I am also a bit queasy about self-diagnosing and self- medicating with steroids ... I am more comfortable with the glandulars (just don't think about the mad cow thing)- I also got mine from Nutriwest. I don't think there's any danger of me being hyperstimulated - I am so hypo as to be horizontal most of the time. My adrenals are going to need a lot of rebuilding. This amalgam illness is so frustrating as nothing shows up on the blood tests, and it feels like I have to fight for everything, second guess or disregard the doctors, and do everything by myself, which is scary. To boot I'm doing it all in another language (I'm English, live in Belgium). Even my doctor who believes in mercury toxicity is not very knowlegeable about its effects on the endocrine system, and has taken the cortisol blood test (which was of course normal) as gospel, so I won't get any cortef from him! I ended up with homoeopathic cortisol drops - mmm, like they're really going to do the trick! Sorrying about the venting. The good news is that I finally found a dentist who I trust, and who is going to start amalgam removal in a week's time. I am so looking forward to getting better. Any clues on the cortef thing gratefully received... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Hi, I've made some comments below which may or may not help you: See *** > > OK - I'm confused! Some of you say glandulars are OK, others say > cortef is better. ***I remember Andy responding to someone else on this issue and him commenting that you can only do so much with glandulars, but if that is all you have access to, then that is all you can use. Adrenal Cortex extract is different than whole adrenal extract. You want the adrenal cortex glandular. Andy mentioned Thorne brand, but stated that was because that was the one he was familiar with. He mentioned a dosage of 1-2 capsules 3 to 4 times a day. He also mentioned licorice in AM and noon, 25-50mg pregnenolone in AM. (He posted this in July of 2005) I am also a bit queasy about self-diagnosing and self- > medicating with steroids ... I am more comfortable with the > glandulars (just don't think about the mad cow thing)- I also got > mine from Nutriwest. I don't think there's any danger of me being > hyperstimulated - I am so hypo as to be horizontal most of the time. ***If you have support from a local doc you might consider asking him to do an ACTH exercise stress test. It is described in Andy's book. (mentioned on Pg. 118 of Amalgam Illness). It can be done at any lab that can draw an ACTH level. This is what my doc used, along with symptoms, to check my adrenal status. My adrenals did not respond at all to the physical stress of exercise. I started taking compounded hydrocortisone (allergic to exipients in Cortef) You would think since my adrenals were in such bad shape that I could just start taking my prescribed dose right away, but that was not the case. I had to start with 2.5mg, which caused some very nasty side effects (hyperstimulation, insomnia, irritability, aggression, parathesias), and work my way up to 10mgAM and 5mgNoon dose. It took me 3 months to adjust to this dose. Not everyone has this difficulty starting HC therapy, but I thought I would warn you in case you get some cooperation from your local doc. Before the HC I could not handle any kind of physical stress, including chelation, without ending up flat on my back with my BP crashing. Even my doctor who believes in mercury toxicity is > not very knowlegeable about its effects on the endocrine system, and > has taken the cortisol blood test (which was of course normal) as > gospel, so I won't get any cortef from him! I ended up with > homoeopathic cortisol drops - mmm, like they're really going to do > the trick! ***I had to go into my local doc's office armed with the info. from Andy's book relating to adrenals and discuss the ACTH exercise stress test. I made the case for doing it because the doc felt it made logical sense, which most of the info. in Andy's book does, if you have a doc who is willing to take the time to listen. All the Best, Gladioli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 >I would get some cortef, but I live in Europe, and Try phoning this guy and see if he is still in business: http://home.no.net/ngrondal/cortisone_replacement.html > > OK - I'm confused! Some of you say glandulars are OK, others say > cortef is better. I would get some cortef, but I live in Europe, and > mastersmarketing.com doesn't ship to Europe. Where else could I get > it from? I am also a bit queasy about self-diagnosing and self- > medicating with steroids ... I am more comfortable with the > glandulars (just don't think about the mad cow thing)- I also got > mine from Nutriwest. I don't think there's any danger of me being > hyperstimulated - I am so hypo as to be horizontal most of the time. > My adrenals are going to need a lot of rebuilding. > > This amalgam illness is so frustrating as nothing shows up on the > blood tests, and it feels like I have to fight for everything, second > guess or disregard the doctors, and do everything by myself, which is > scary. To boot I'm doing it all in another language (I'm English, > live in Belgium). Even my doctor who believes in mercury toxicity is > not very knowlegeable about its effects on the endocrine system, and > has taken the cortisol blood test (which was of course normal) as > gospel, so I won't get any cortef from him! I ended up with > homoeopathic cortisol drops - mmm, like they're really going to do > the trick! > > Sorrying about the venting. The good news is that I finally found a > dentist who I trust, and who is going to start amalgam removal in a > week's time. I am so looking forward to getting better. > > Any clues on the cortef thing gratefully received... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 > > > > OK - I'm confused! Some of you say glandulars are OK, others say > > cortef is better. I would get some cortef, but I live in Europe, and > > mastersmarketing.com doesn't ship to Europe. Where else could I get > > it from? I am also a bit queasy about self-diagnosing and self- > > medicating with steroids ... I am more comfortable with the > > glandulars (just don't think about the mad cow thing)- I also got > > mine from Nutriwest. I don't think there's any danger of me being > > hyperstimulated - I am so hypo as to be horizontal most of the time. > > My adrenals are going to need a lot of rebuilding. > > > > This amalgam illness is so frustrating as nothing shows up on the > > blood tests, and it feels like I have to fight for everything, second > > guess or disregard the doctors, and do everything by myself, which is > > scary. To boot I'm doing it all in another language (I'm English, > > live in Belgium). Even my doctor who believes in mercury toxicity is > > not very knowlegeable about its effects on the endocrine system, and > > has taken the cortisol blood test (which was of course normal) as > > gospel, so I won't get any cortef from him! I ended up with > > homoeopathic cortisol drops - mmm, like they're really going to do > > the trick! > > > > Sorrying about the venting. The good news is that I finally found a > > dentist who I trust, and who is going to start amalgam removal in a > > week's time. I am so looking forward to getting better. > > > > Any clues on the cortef thing gratefully received... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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