Hypothalamus poisoning

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I hope some of you real experts will be able to help me with this question.....

In his book, Dr. Cutler tells us that the hypothalamus is poisoned. If I

understand him correctly, this is contributing to the rest of the glands not

working properly and to our hormones being all out of whack.

For example, I am one of those people whose hormones are all out of whack, e.g.

I have autoimmune thyroid antibodies and low FT3 and FT4, but my TSH is very low

at .85, thus I believe this is due to a pituitary problem. For this reason, my

doctor doesn't believe I need thyroid hormone (but that's another story) we

know how unreliable TSH is.

Anyway, I also am very low in cortisol, have serious adrenal issues and crashes,

e.g. extreme fatigue, intolerance to stress, noise, lights, commotion and am

very irritable.

Also, my estrogen is excessively high, but progesterone cream has not worked to

bring it down due to problems with cortisol.

I am working on the adrenal issues at this time, as I cannot tolerate cortef, I

am trying some other things.

I just finished reading the book " Adrenal Fatigue " by Dr. and he says

that hypothalamus tablets can be helpful in regulating adrenals and thyroid.

Have any of you tried this?

I figure if Dr. Cutler says that the hypothalamus is poisoned and causing all of

these problems, then maybe hypothalamus tablets could help to correct some of

it.

Any ideas folks?

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Hi ,

I don't consider myself an expert, but I do seem to have most of the

same problems that you do. Maybe there are things from my experience

that could help.

I have autoimmune thyroid antibodies too. I see the antibodies as

just part of the thyroid problem. My TSH was also lower that the

normal range before I got thyroid hormone. I think that means that my

thyroid is not getting the right signals from my hypothalmus and

pituitary. No doctor has ever said that to me, I just decided that

from reading about secondary hypothyroidism. Thyroid hormone is one

of those things that has helped me enormously. Has your doctor ever

given you thyroid hormone?

The thyroid hormones and adrenal hormones are interelated. I was

lucky enough that my doctor replaced both at the same time. Even

then, it was a juggling act to get the doses right, and I'm still

juggling. But even with the juggling, these hormones have made me

almost totally functional as compared to struggling to survive before

I got them. If I had tried to replace one without the other I don't

think I would have got anywhere at all.

I think that at one time I was probably estrogen dominant too. What

really helped with that was changing my diet. I went to a gluten

free, dairy free, legume free, sugar restricted and processed veg oil

restricted diet. When I did that I stopped having menstruation

problems. Andy's book and 's book both have diet suggestions

that are similiar to the route that I took. Another book that talks

about how diet influences hormones is " The Anti-Aging Zone " by Barry

Sears. I can't recall if Sears said anything specifically about

estrogen, but I would go back to that book to look.

What happens when you try cortef?

I haven't tried hypothalmus tablets. The problem with that, as I see

it, is that the pituitary probably isn't sending out the right

messages either. So are there pituitary tablets too?

Hope this helps

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> I hope some of you real experts will be able to help me with this

question.....

>

> In his book, Dr. Cutler tells us that the hypothalamus is poisoned.

If I understand him correctly, this is contributing to the rest of

the glands not working properly and to our hormones being all out of

whack.

>

> For example, I am one of those people whose hormones are all out of

whack, e.g. I have autoimmune thyroid antibodies and low FT3 and FT4,

but my TSH is very low at .85, thus I believe this is due to a

pituitary problem. For this reason, my doctor doesn't believe I need

thyroid hormone (but that's another story) we know how unreliable TSH is.

>

> Anyway, I also am very low in cortisol, have serious adrenal issues

and crashes, e.g. extreme fatigue, intolerance to stress, noise,

lights, commotion and am very irritable.

>

> Also, my estrogen is excessively high, but progesterone cream has

not worked to bring it down due to problems with cortisol.

>

> I am working on the adrenal issues at this time, as I cannot

tolerate cortef, I am trying some other things.

>

> I just finished reading the book " Adrenal Fatigue " by Dr. and

he says that hypothalamus tablets can be helpful in regulating

adrenals and thyroid. Have any of you tried this?

>

> I figure if Dr. Cutler says that the hypothalamus is poisoned and

causing all of these problems, then maybe hypothalamus tablets could

help to correct some of it.

>

> Any ideas folks?

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> Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to my post.

More than welcome. Your posts help me too.

> Yes there are

> pituitary glandulars available. I'm just wondering if Cortef is

what you

> take for adrenals?

Yes

> I'm afraid to try armour thyroid without first fixing my

> adrenals because I know it will make me worse.

I did have trouble when I was initially increasing the thyroid meds

and it turned out that it was because I was using sythroid and because

I wasn't taking enough cortef at the time.

> Do you wear a med alert

> bracelet incase of accident or trauma?

Yes, but that's because I have been taking more than 20 mg per day. I

also have a cortisone injection only to be used in an emergency.

> How much cortef do you take per day?

First I want to point out that I think that I am a worst case

scenerio. I was poisoned with amalgams, chemistry lab exposures,

broken thermometers and exposure at work. My HPA axis was further

damaged by living with severe pain for a very long time. I am working

with a whole team of doctors.

Right now I am taking 40 mg cortef per day. For most of the past two

years I was at 30 mg/ day, and I'm trying to get back down to that dose.

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> Have you gained weight on the 40 mgs. of cortef per day?

Yes, but I think it has more to do with inactivity and frustration

than it has to do with the cortef. I gained just as much weight in

the year before I got the cortef because I had reached the limit of

what I could cope with (back and arm pain) and then after amalgam

removal I had a rough time with redistribution (leg pain limits my

activity).

>Do you have any

> other side effects from it?

No. My bone density was tested and it was higher than normal after a

year on cortef. Bone markers have been tested and are ok.

> For example, I get a lot of mood changes and

> become very irritable when I have tried it before.

I don't get irritable or moody. I do get weepy, but I don't think

that's related to the cortef (It was more related to amalgam removal,

and it seems to be settling down recently which is fairly nice).

If I miss a dose or get stressed I get fatigue and nausea and

difficulty thinking.

> I think I might start

> again and just take 5 mgs. in the a.m. for now and see what >happens.

That's a good idea. That may be enough for you. Another person I

know found that she couldn't sleep even if she took cortef in the

morning. She didn't need anywhere near as much as me. I can take my

whole days worth of cortef and go right off to sleep, in the daytime.

Just shows how far gone I am.

> I just

> want to get my adrenals supported enough that I can take a small dose of

> armour thyroid, since I have elevated antibody markers for hashimotos.

> I am also prone to panic attacks, but my worst symptoms are adrenal,

e.g.

> irritability, extreme fatigue, weakness and hypoglycemia.

I have all of the above, except I'm not really irritable. I am

anxious, absent minded, spacey, slow thinking. I've been adding some

of those brain chemical precursors and other supplements (GABA,

inositol) from Andy's book and they seem to be helping.

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