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The hair loss thing lasts about 4-6 months. But it does finally stop. Not to worry, you don't lose it all. I would also like to talk to you about Richmond. My SO is scheduled for surgery there and we haven't been very happy with the treatment we have received so far. It seems to be very negative when it comes to support or should I say the lack of it. I'd like your input.

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In my opinion, the surgeons at Richmond are as good as any anywhere. I agree with you about the support in Richmond, I found it lacking. You could change sites which would

probably result in a delay of surgery (or are you post-op?) or, maybe better

yet, stay where you are and get your support elsewhere. You are welcome at any of the support

groups around the bay and this group is a great help too. I have seen Gitty,

the group facilitator in SSF, work with patients from other locations—she just

can¡Çt help it. If you are post-op,

you can probably get all your care beyond 6 months from your primary.

It is tough, but after a few months, we

are better off to consider ourselves normal, no longer patients. I reached my 6 month surgical anniversary

yesterday, but can¡Çt imagine ever doing without my support group though. J Good luck to you and

keep your faith in yourselves. You

are mighty strong.

The hair loss thing is driving me nuts,

and I think I am at the downhill side, it seems to be

tapering off. I didn¡Çt have a lot

to spare and it scared me. But looking

at my hair, you can¡Çt really tell I have lost any significant amount, though it

did seem so at the time.

I may have a little hernia. Could

someone who has had that experience talk about it a little and tell me what to

watch for? I have an appointment

with my surgeon in two weeks. Thanks,

Cheryl

4/16/03 SSF Umbach

291/188/150

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hair loss

The hair loss thing lasts about 4-6

months. But it does finally stop. Not to worry, you don't lose it

all. I would also like to talk to you about Richmond. My SO is

scheduled for surgery there and we haven't been very happy with the treatment

we have received so far. It seems to be very negative when it comes

to support or should I say the lack of it. I'd like your input.

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Lasts about 3-6 months. Doesn¡Çt

ever really come out in chunks and you most likely will not go bald! There is

really nothing you can do although there are many that swear by one rememdy or

another. It will stop and hair will come back in.

hair loss

Hello support group people:

I've got a question about hair loss. I'm 4.5

months post-op and for

about 2 weeks now, I've noticed that I've come to

the expected hair

loss phase. No one notices (I asked several

people who would tell me

the truth), but when I shampoo my hair every

morning, I notice more

hair than usual between my fingers.

How long did this last for those of you

post-oppies who experienced

hair loss? I knew that this might happen so

I'm not overly concerned

about it, just curious.

Thanks for reading. Prayers to you all.

Francisco

-106 lbs

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Hi Francisco!

I started losing my hair at about 2 months post-op, and now (5 months later)

I'm noticing that there are fewer and fewer strands in the shower. I still

have some loss though. It's not very noticeable - there are no bald patches

or anything like that, since I'm losing strands from all over my head. One

thing I have noticed recently is that I've got "bangs" - up on my forehead

where hair is coming back in. I'm sure I've got this everywhere, but they

just sort of stick up on my forehead and are more noticeable than anywhere

else.

Hugs,

Jen

ciscozalvaje wrote:

Hello support

group people:

I've got a question about hair loss. I'm 4.5 months post-op and for

about 2 weeks now, I've noticed that I've come to the expected hair

loss phase. No one notices (I asked several people who would tell me

the truth), but when I shampoo my hair every morning, I notice more

hair than usual between my fingers.

How long did this last for those of you post-oppies who experienced

hair loss? I knew that this might happen so I'm not overly concerned

about it, just curious.

Thanks for reading. Prayers to you all.

Francisco

-106 lbs

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Medically, the care that I received at Kaiser Richmond was first

rate. Dr. Fisher, my surgeon is brilliant, and luckily I had a

speedy and uneventful recovery—I was exercising gently and gradually

at 4 days post-op under doc's supervision. I had open RNY, and I was

back to work in 3 weeks.

The support aspect, however, was a bit lacking, and I found support

more to my liking elsewhere—Kaiser SSF, here online, and at another

support group not affiliated with Kaiser. My PCP is great,

proactive, supportive, and takes care of my medical needs.

I will always hold Dr. Fisher and Steve (he was my case manager) in

high esteem. The surgery gave me back my life. The program is still

rather new, and I believe it has great potential. I wish there was

someone there like Dr. Gitty at Kaiser SSF. She has a way of

conducting a support meeting that addresses the

physical/spiritual/emotional aspects of this journey.

At her meetings, I have laughed, been uplifted, been deeply moved,

been inspired and have even gotten a bit misty-eyed. She gets to the

heart of our issues, and speaks the language that we bariatric

warriors understand. I wish I could attend every week, but can't due

to work.

I encourage you and your SO to seek out the support that meets your

needs. If anyone has had a positive experience with support at

Richmond, please share it with the group. This post represents my

opinion and my experience only. Others' experiences will vary.

(Wow, I've been dealing with too much legalese lately!)

Good luck to you and your SO, .

Francisco

-107 lbs

" My SO is scheduled for surgery there and we haven't been very happy

with the treatment we have received so far. It seems to be very

negative when it comes to support or should I say the lack of it.

I'd like your input. "

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Hi Lashunta,

I think the complaint is not with the support groups, but rather with the

program itself. And I do know that Francisco was very active in the program,

long before the Monday evening support group was even started. The Richmond

program is still somewhat new, and is still evolving. I'm a believer that if one

is dissatisfied with customer service, whether from a store or a medical

provider, one needs to express that dissatisfaction, and see what can be done to

improve it. That's part of why I tend to speak up. That and the fact that I'm a

big mouth broad! I've come to the conclusion that that's one of my roles in

life!

I have to say, I personally really enjoy the support groups I go to, and plan to

add more to my list that I attend. Each has a very different flavor. The

Richmond one is the only one I attend that has a

moderator/facilitator/whatever-the-title-is. I do think that if one group

doesn't work for us, that's fine, as long as we have other sources for what we

need.

Just my two cents. I'll shut my big mouth now (but no guarantees for how long!).

Eleanor

lashunta maryland wrote:

> I am still pre op, but I am scheduled to have surgery at richmond, I

> went to the last support meeting and nobody was there, it was only one

> post op (eleanor) and three pre op people there, so if you feel there

> was no support that is because you didn't come to the meeting. Also we

> had fun we talked and talked and got to know each other a little bit but

> it couldve been better with more people, we must remember that things at

> richmond are just really getting to move so we must have patients, we

> have to go to the meetings and when we see others aren't showing up we

> need to remind people when the meetings are and to encourage them to

> come, the meeting is only as good as the quality of the members. you

> have to go ask questions, ask questions and give answers. this is only

> my opnion but having to work with adults I find that things go better

> when people show up and participate all the the not just sometimes.

>

> */ciscozalvaje /* wrote:

>

> :

>

> Medically, the care that I received at Kaiser Richmond was first

> rate. Dr. Fisher, my surgeon is brilliant, and luckily I had a

> speedy and uneventful recovery—I was exercising gently and gradually

> at 4 days post-op under doc's supervision. I had open RNY, and I was

> back to work in 3 weeks.

>

> The support aspect, however, was a bit lacking, and I found support

> more to my liking elsewhere—Kaiser SSF, here online, and at another

> support group not affiliated with Kaiser. My PCP is great,

> proactive, supportive, and takes care of my medical needs.

>

> I will always hold Dr. Fisher and Steve (he was my case manager) in

> high esteem. The surgery gave me back my life. The program is still

> rather new, and I believe it has great potential. I wish there was

> someone there like Dr. Gitty at Kaiser SSF. She has a way of

> conducting a support meeting that addresses the

> physical/spiritual/emotional aspects of this journey.

>

> At her meetings, I have laughed, been uplifted, been deeply moved,

> been inspired and have even gotten a bit misty-eyed. She gets to the

> heart of our issues, and speaks the language that we bariatric

> warriors understand. I wish I could attend every week, but can't due

> to work.

>

> I encourage you and your SO to seek out the support that meets your

> needs. If anyone has had a positive experience with support at

> Richmond, please share it with the group. This post represents my

> opinion and my experience only. Others' experiences will vary.

> (Wow, I've been dealing with too much legalese lately!)

>

> Good luck to you and your SO, .

>

> Francisco

> -107 lbs

>

>

> " My SO is scheduled for surgery there and we haven't been very happy

> with the treatment we have received so far. It seems to be very

> negative when it comes to support or should I say the lack of it.

> I'd like your input. "

>

>

>

>

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Hi Sherry,

It's normal, but it does pass. Any shock to the system, like surgery,

pregnancy, etc., will cause the hair follicles to go dormant. Not all of

them, but a higher percentage than normal. Then a few weeks/months

later, the hairs fall out. Keep doing your supplements, and pretty soon

you'll see you've got a crop of little baby hairs coming in. I've heard

a lot of people recommend Nioxin, biotin, and all sorts of other stuff.

I'm still not convinced. I think it's like if you take a certain remedy

a cold lasts a week, and if you don't it lasts seven days!

Hope this helps!

> Hello, I am 4 months postop and am now loosing alot of hair. Is

> anyone else having this problem? Any hints or suggestions? I am

> taking my supplements and drinking my protein but it keeps falling

> out. i have long thick hair so I do have some to spare but its

> starting to scare me. Sherry

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Eleanor Oster

eleanor@... (personal address)

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Berkeley, CA

Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

05/09/2003 319 Orientation

07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

03/29/2004 <185 Current

Goal 140

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Hey,

Sherry,

I to have allot of hair. Mine started falling out in hanfuls! It was

really bad. This is the strange thing though. Now all my hair is

curly!! I love it but its very strange. maybe because im over 40 now

are maybe because i had the IUD put it .I have no idea but im told

it could be everything encluding changing my diet.

Shell

> Hi Sherry,

>

> It's normal, but it does pass. Any shock to the system, like

surgery,

> pregnancy, etc., will cause the hair follicles to go dormant. Not

all of

> them, but a higher percentage than normal. Then a few weeks/months

> later, the hairs fall out. Keep doing your supplements, and pretty

soon

> you'll see you've got a crop of little baby hairs coming in. I've

heard

> a lot of people recommend Nioxin, biotin, and all sorts of other

stuff.

> I'm still not convinced. I think it's like if you take a certain

remedy

> a cold lasts a week, and if you don't it lasts seven days!

>

> Hope this helps!

>

> > Hello, I am 4 months postop and am now loosing alot of hair. Is

> > anyone else having this problem? Any hints or suggestions? I am

> > taking my supplements and drinking my protein but it keeps

falling

> > out. i have long thick hair so I do have some to spare but its

> > starting to scare me. Sherry

>

> --

> Eleanor Oster

> eleanor@s... (personal address)

> www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

> Berkeley, CA

> Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

> P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

> 05/09/2003 319 Orientation

> 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

> 03/29/2004 <185 Current

> Goal 140

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> Hello everyone, new to this group. I have recently started chelation

> therapy on myself and noticed hair loss.

> I have taken Biotin in the past for this and it seems to work.

TK--- Take more biotin and make sure you are using all the basic

supplements.

> Why would ALA cause this to happen ?? Anyone ??

TK--- I seriously doubt it is the ALA. It could be the chelation in

general because it is hard on the body or it could be just coincedence

as more hair growth or loss happens at different times.

>

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> Hello everyone, new to this group. I have recently started chelation

> therapy on myself

Hello! and Welcome!

What chelators are you using? What dose and frequency? How many days

on, days off?

> and noticed hair loss.

I think of this as a hypothyroid symptom. Stress can trigger it.

> I have taken Biotin in the past for this and it seems to work.

> Why would ALA cause this to happen ?? Anyone ??

>

It would be good to identify if there is an underlying problem that

needs to be addressed. Try reading the sections of Andy's book about

hypothyroidism and adrenal insufficiency.

Regards

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Hi,

I agree with , it's probably thyroid related.

I had a lot of hair loss earlier this year. I thought it was due to

iron deficiency but it more or less stopped fairly soon after I started

taking thyroid and adrenal glandulars. Was I thankful for that!

I wasn't chelating at this time though I believe it mercury/chelation

related as I'd had some redistribution from taking high doses of ALA at

infrequent doses a few months prior to this and my thyroid and adrenals

were pretty shot.

If biotin helps, then maybe it's candida related which chelation can

stir up.

Anne

>

> Hello everyone, new to this group. I have recently started chelation

> therapy on myself and noticed hair loss.

> I have taken Biotin in the past for this and it seems to work.

> Why would ALA cause this to happen ?? Anyone ??

>

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I posted a message a few months ago about my hair loss problem. Am

still having problems. Back in Nov. I had tried to do frequent dose

useing ALA. After a few rounds I found out that I was losing a lot of

hair. I tried taking lots of Vit C and B Complex. Biotin (5000mcg.),

Zinc, and Magnesium. Mineral supplemenst.

Nothing seems to help. Blood test shows everything to be normal. A

little bit of high blood pressure. Can anyone help?????

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