Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 i have had eleven spinal taps and none of them yielded any results. what a waste of back pain and diziness. actually , i think i can perform one on myself with the help of a mirror. (sheesh) and i have had two doctors try to push the brain biopsy on me. no way!! my mom was a bit weary of it and when we got a second opinion the doc said it would be useless because it most likely will not give any results either. hence, wasting an operation, opening my head and scraping my brain(that graphic enough?) carrots > >Reply-To: Neurosarcoidosis >To: Neurosarcoidosis >Subject: Re: brain sarc - addition >Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 01:40:47 -0000 > >Me again LOL. > >The spinal tap is useless as a diagnostic tool for MS and NS. MS >Banding shows up in many other illnesses, including Neurosarcoid. It >is an indicator but not a diagnositc tool. > >The main reason to have a lumbar puncture is because it does show up >inflammation and that is VERY important, especially the level of ACE >in the spinal fluid. That is the KEY point. Also the spinal pressure, >and of course to rule out any other CNS diseases. > >Also cultures of spinal fluid rule out bacterial meningitis and other >bacterial diseases of the brain need to be ruled out. > >I don't think a Spinal Tap can rule out cancerous cells? White blood >cells can show up in a spinal tap but that can indicate inflammation >as much as infection, not just cancer. I really don't know about that >one? > >Hope that helps. >Love isha. > > > Glenda, regarding a spinal tap in our situation, I > > believe I was told that, basically, the spinal tap is > > performed to test for 1) MS 2) Inflammation 3) > > cancerous cells. > > > > If somebody else knows, please comment. > _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Carrots, not that I am an expert I have had so many spinal taps that I have lost count and even though they have always shown elevated protein and a few eosonophils which shows inflammation aseptic meningitis as they would say the only thing that really has kept the doctors jumping is because of my hydrocephalus, I have had two brain biopsies and listen to your mom, maybe as a total last resort have one because other than feeling like you have been hit over the head with a hatchet most of the people I have talked they have not shown anything that the MRI didn't show, and the lab work on the CSF fluid. Don't give up hope though we all know how it feels til you get a working diagnosis. Take care and remember that I will be thinking and praying for you that there will be an answer soon. I am on immunosuppressants I don't think I spelled that right but oh well but it took time before they found the right meds for what was wrong with me, my prayer will be that it will be swift for you. Your Friendly Texan, Jeanna Re: brain sarc - addition > >Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 01:40:47 -0000 > > > >Me again LOL. > > > >The spinal tap is useless as a diagnostic tool for MS and NS. MS > >Banding shows up in many other illnesses, including Neurosarcoid. It > >is an indicator but not a diagnositc tool. > > > >The main reason to have a lumbar puncture is because it does show up > >inflammation and that is VERY important, especially the level of ACE > >in the spinal fluid. That is the KEY point. Also the spinal pressure, > >and of course to rule out any other CNS diseases. > > > >Also cultures of spinal fluid rule out bacterial meningitis and other > >bacterial diseases of the brain need to be ruled out. > > > >I don't think a Spinal Tap can rule out cancerous cells? White blood > >cells can show up in a spinal tap but that can indicate inflammation > >as much as infection, not just cancer. I really don't know about that > >one? > > > >Hope that helps. > >Love isha. > > > > > Glenda, regarding a spinal tap in our situation, I > > > believe I was told that, basically, the spinal tap is > > > performed to test for 1) MS 2) Inflammation 3) > > > cancerous cells. > > > > > > If somebody else knows, please comment. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan > online from McAfee. > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > The Neurosarcoidosis Community > > Live Group Chat:- > Mondays & Fridays 10pm EST USA > http://www.elderwyn.com/neurosarcoidosis/chat.php > > Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:- > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/messages > > Members Database:- > Listings of locations, phone numbers, and instant messengers. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/database > > Bookmarks:- > Add a website URL you have found useful. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/links > > Personal Complaints or problems:- > Please email the moderators > mailto:Neurosarcoidosis-owner > > Subscription Details:- > 1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive. > 2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email. > 3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email. > To modify your subscription settings please visit:- > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/join > > To subscribe email neurosarcoidosis-subscribe > To unsubscribe email neurosarcoidosis-unsubscribe > > The moderators will not be doing it for you! > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > > Come stand by my side where I am going, > Take my hand if I should stumble and fall, > It's the strength and love that you share, > That gives me what I need most of all. > - Hoyt Axton > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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