Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Has anybody here developed a gut problem/issues from DMSA? The last round of it has left me very sick, but also I now have a permanent sensation of my lower abdomen being clenched or in a type of spasm or knot and I am concerned because it has not abated. If anybody has had this or some other problem related to it, did it improve after stopping? and if so, how long did it take? I took the 50 mg dosage weeks ago. I'm now attempting to help myself by taking minimal dosage (12 mg) in the hopes I might be able to improve the reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 DMSA can cause increased yeast problems. But what you're describing could be other things as well. Do you have other symptoms, perhaps constipation or other intestinal symptoms, or urinary or hormonal symptoms? > > Has anybody here developed a gut problem/issues from DMSA? The last > round of it has left me very sick, but also I now have a permanent > sensation of my lower abdomen being clenched or in a type of spasm or > knot and I am concerned because it has not abated. > > If anybody has had this or some other problem related to it, did it > improve after stopping? and if so, how long did it take? I took the 50 > mg dosage weeks ago. I'm now attempting to help myself by taking > minimal dosage (12 mg) in the hopes I might be able to improve the > reaction. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Yes, I do have other symptoms. But the DMSA round last time has caused this clenching sensation in the gut. It did it AGES back and it was not able to be resolved until I went off sugar/yeast/gluten. This time around, I am on the same diet (no sugar/yeast/gluten) and this clenching has happened again and is not going. I often get pain/urgency with the urine problems. With the bowel, sometimes constipation, but changes to diarroeah. As for hormone problems, I'd say I probably do with all this toxicitiy yes. > > DMSA can cause increased yeast problems. But what you're describing > could be other things as well. Do you have other symptoms, perhaps > constipation or other intestinal symptoms, or urinary or hormonal > symptoms? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Yes, I do have other symptoms. But the DMSA round last time has caused this clenching sensation in the gut. It did it AGES back and it was not able to be resolved until I went off sugar/yeast/gluten. This time around, I am on the same diet (no sugar/yeast/gluten) and this clenching has happened again and is not going. I often get pain/urgency with the urine problems. With the bowel, sometimes constipation, but changes to diarroeah. As for hormone problems, I'd say I probably do with all this toxicitiy yes. > > DMSA can cause increased yeast problems. But what you're describing > could be other things as well. Do you have other symptoms, perhaps > constipation or other intestinal symptoms, or urinary or hormonal > symptoms? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 > > Yes, I do have other symptoms. But the DMSA round last time has > caused this clenching sensation in the gut. It did it AGES back and > it was not able to be resolved until I went off sugar/yeast/gluten. > This time around, I am on the same diet (no sugar/yeast/gluten) and > this clenching has happened again and is not going. > > I often get pain/urgency with the urine problems. With the bowel, > sometimes constipation, but changes to diarroeah. If it happened before when you were on yeast/sugar/gluten, then I wonder if some source of one of those is still in, or has crept back in to your diet. I also exclude those items from my diet and I kept finding them " hidden " in foods for quite a while after I started the diet. Are you eating any packaged, processed, or refined products - you really should exclude them from your diet as they almost always have some amount of one of the problem foods. You should also be avoiding vinegar, tempeh, mushrooms, anything fermented, and high-sugar veggies like beets, carrots, potatoes. What about dairy? Do you have problems with it? It is another item that is hidden in many products. If you are not excluding it, you might try doing so for a while and see if that helps. Think about these dietary issues first. Since you had the same problem related to diet before, that seems a good starting point. If the clenching feeling is caused by yeast/bacteria (stirred up by eating one of these problem foods), then taking more probiotics might help. -- > As for hormone problems, I'd say I probably do with all this > toxicitiy yes. > > > > > > > DMSA can cause increased yeast problems. But what you're describing > > could be other things as well. Do you have other symptoms, perhaps > > constipation or other intestinal symptoms, or urinary or hormonal > > symptoms? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 The spasm clenching in my gut was caused by taking the DMSA. The diet that worked for me last time it happened and cleared it up, is the same diet I'm on now. I have not changed anything or allowed anything to creep back in, but things are not working. Just the way it's gone this time around. I blame DMSA for causing this and just wanted to know if anybody else has experienced the gut thing from it and whether it abated after a certain amount of time. Thanks for your comments though, I appreciate what you're saying and know that it's easy for yeast to get a hold and other foods to still be causing issues. I just think DMSA is not for me because i'm obviously far too vulnerable to candida or gut problems to use it. My liver is also an issue, which is going to be dealt with when I next see the doctor. If I use antifungals etc, I just end up getting far far worse and more toxic and my body cannot seem to eliminate the toxins. As for dairy products, I don't really have much, just plain acidophilus yoghurt sometimes, which is organic and contains all the good bacteria. But perhaps I do need to take probiotics, I'm just wary to because of my reactions to them. But we'll see. . > > If it happened before when you were on yeast/sugar/gluten, then > I wonder if some source of one of those is still in, or has crept > back in to your diet. I also exclude those items from my diet > and I kept finding them " hidden " in foods for quite a while after > I started the diet. Are you eating any packaged, processed, or > refined products - you really should exclude them from your diet > as they almost always have some amount of one of the problem > foods. You should also be avoiding vinegar, tempeh, mushrooms, > anything fermented, and high-sugar veggies like beets, carrots, > potatoes. > > What about dairy? Do you have problems with it? It is another > item that is hidden in many products. If you are not excluding > it, you might try doing so for a while and see if that helps. > > Think about these dietary issues first. Since you had the same > problem related to diet before, that seems a good starting point. > > If the clenching feeling is caused by yeast/bacteria (stirred > up by eating one of these problem foods), then taking more > probiotics might help. > > -- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 > > The spasm clenching in my gut was caused by taking the DMSA. The > diet that worked for me last time it happened and cleared it up, is > the same diet I'm on now. I have not changed anything or allowed > anything to creep back in, but things are not working. Just the way > it's gone this time around. I blame DMSA for causing this and just > wanted to know if anybody else has experienced the gut thing from it > and whether it abated after a certain amount of time. Well, DMSA can definitely increase yeast/bacteria problems, as you know. I have had this happen during/after rounds. Probiotics help a lot. > Thanks for your comments though, I appreciate what you're saying and > know that it's easy for yeast to get a hold and other foods to still > be causing issues. I just think DMSA is not for me because i'm > obviously far too vulnerable to candida or gut problems to use it. > My liver is also an issue, which is going to be dealt with when I > next see the doctor. If I use antifungals etc, I just end up getting > far far worse and more toxic and my body cannot seem to eliminate the > toxins. If the liver problems are addressed well, then you will be able to deal with both the candida and the mercury better. I hope the doctor provides a good program for your liver. It would be a good idea to share the recommendations with folks here to make sure it is safe - there might be small adjustments that would make it safer for you. Don't forget to watch out for ALA in any recommended supplements. My doctor has recommended supplements with ALA and, in some cases when the supplement is basically a good product, I have adjusted her dosage and frequency so that I am taking it on a good protocol. > As for dairy products, I don't really have much, just plain > acidophilus yoghurt sometimes, which is organic and contains all the > good bacteria. But perhaps I do need to take probiotics, I'm just > wary to because of my reactions to them. But we'll see. > > . That's right, I forgot about your die-off and/or mercury symptoms from probiotics. Yikes. Again, once you get the liver issues under better control, you may be able to start probiotics, slowly. When will you get your doctor's liver recommendations? I hope soon. I think it will help you a lot if it is a good, safe recommendation. I can't wait to see you start improving! Hang in there, ! -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 > > The spasm clenching in my gut was caused by taking the DMSA. The > diet that worked for me last time it happened and cleared it up, is > the same diet I'm on now. I have not changed anything or allowed > anything to creep back in, but things are not working. Just the way > it's gone this time around. I blame DMSA for causing this and just > wanted to know if anybody else has experienced the gut thing from it > and whether it abated after a certain amount of time. Well, DMSA can definitely increase yeast/bacteria problems, as you know. I have had this happen during/after rounds. Probiotics help a lot. > Thanks for your comments though, I appreciate what you're saying and > know that it's easy for yeast to get a hold and other foods to still > be causing issues. I just think DMSA is not for me because i'm > obviously far too vulnerable to candida or gut problems to use it. > My liver is also an issue, which is going to be dealt with when I > next see the doctor. If I use antifungals etc, I just end up getting > far far worse and more toxic and my body cannot seem to eliminate the > toxins. If the liver problems are addressed well, then you will be able to deal with both the candida and the mercury better. I hope the doctor provides a good program for your liver. It would be a good idea to share the recommendations with folks here to make sure it is safe - there might be small adjustments that would make it safer for you. Don't forget to watch out for ALA in any recommended supplements. My doctor has recommended supplements with ALA and, in some cases when the supplement is basically a good product, I have adjusted her dosage and frequency so that I am taking it on a good protocol. > As for dairy products, I don't really have much, just plain > acidophilus yoghurt sometimes, which is organic and contains all the > good bacteria. But perhaps I do need to take probiotics, I'm just > wary to because of my reactions to them. But we'll see. > > . That's right, I forgot about your die-off and/or mercury symptoms from probiotics. Yikes. Again, once you get the liver issues under better control, you may be able to start probiotics, slowly. When will you get your doctor's liver recommendations? I hope soon. I think it will help you a lot if it is a good, safe recommendation. I can't wait to see you start improving! Hang in there, ! -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I've never had this particular problem but I wonder if you cant tolerate probiotics some other intestinal cleanser/soother would help like triphala and/or flax seeds with extra magnesium to help relax the tension and get things moving? Or aloe vera maybe? What about doing an enema to help clear the blockage. Either plain water enemas or or add salt or apple cider vinegar eg just 1 teaspoon in a pint of water (it can sting if you use too much). Aloe vera or liquid chlorophyll enemas can be soothing too. Anne > > Yes, I do have other symptoms. But the DMSA round last time has > caused this clenching sensation in the gut. It did it AGES back and > it was not able to be resolved until I went off sugar/yeast/gluten. > This time around, I am on the same diet (no sugar/yeast/gluten) and > this clenching has happened again and is not going. > > I often get pain/urgency with the urine problems. With the bowel, > sometimes constipation, but changes to diarroeah. > > As for hormone problems, I'd say I probably do with all this > toxicitiy yes. > > > > > > > DMSA can cause increased yeast problems. But what you're describing > > could be other things as well. Do you have other symptoms, perhaps > > constipation or other intestinal symptoms, or urinary or hormonal > > symptoms? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I've never had this particular problem but I wonder if you cant tolerate probiotics some other intestinal cleanser/soother would help like triphala and/or flax seeds with extra magnesium to help relax the tension and get things moving? Or aloe vera maybe? What about doing an enema to help clear the blockage. Either plain water enemas or or add salt or apple cider vinegar eg just 1 teaspoon in a pint of water (it can sting if you use too much). Aloe vera or liquid chlorophyll enemas can be soothing too. Anne > > Yes, I do have other symptoms. But the DMSA round last time has > caused this clenching sensation in the gut. It did it AGES back and > it was not able to be resolved until I went off sugar/yeast/gluten. > This time around, I am on the same diet (no sugar/yeast/gluten) and > this clenching has happened again and is not going. > > I often get pain/urgency with the urine problems. With the bowel, > sometimes constipation, but changes to diarroeah. > > As for hormone problems, I'd say I probably do with all this > toxicitiy yes. > > > > > > > DMSA can cause increased yeast problems. But what you're describing > > could be other things as well. Do you have other symptoms, perhaps > > constipation or other intestinal symptoms, or urinary or hormonal > > symptoms? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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