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Thanks, Shell, for your invitation back to the group. As ANYONE who

knows me can tell you, I have stuck my foot in my mouth too many

times (and had to apologize) for me to not recognize and accept your

gracious apology. And yes, I've got a very off-beat sense of humor

that sometimes gets misinterpreted. Then it all got escalated so

quickly that I notice that for me, at least, it was hard to get some

perspective on all the emotions flying around. It's especially hard

to understand subtle stuff in a non-visual context like this one. I

hope that your apology has lowered the temperature for all concerned.

I didn't even know this group was here until the problems with the

Richmond program came up. I joined because I wanted to lend my voice

to help settle that situation. I think we WLS-ers need each other,

and we can't support our own if we alienate programs like Richmond. I

also didn't want Steve Brook, another hard-working RN, to feel ganged-

up-on when he's doing his very best and is devoted to that program. I

hope that fence can be mended over time.

Now the truth is, I'm on a lot of lists, and I'm going away on

Wednesday to a convention, so I won't be posting a lot here. But I am

glad to be here, and hope that everybody will kiss and make up but no

sloppy wet ones, okay? Ick, cooties.

I'm baaaaaaaack...

Martha

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Welcome back Martha,

Your right we need each other on this journey! You have allot to

offer the group

Shell

> Thanks, Shell, for your invitation back to the group. As ANYONE

who

> knows me can tell you, I have stuck my foot in my mouth too many

> times (and had to apologize) for me to not recognize and accept

your

> gracious apology. And yes, I've got a very off-beat sense of humor

> that sometimes gets misinterpreted. Then it all got escalated so

> quickly that I notice that for me, at least, it was hard to get

some

> perspective on all the emotions flying around. It's especially

hard

> to understand subtle stuff in a non-visual context like this one.

I

> hope that your apology has lowered the temperature for all

concerned.

>

> I didn't even know this group was here until the problems with the

> Richmond program came up. I joined because I wanted to lend my

voice

> to help settle that situation. I think we WLS-ers need each other,

> and we can't support our own if we alienate programs like

Richmond. I

> also didn't want Steve Brook, another hard-working RN, to feel

ganged-

> up-on when he's doing his very best and is devoted to that

program. I

> hope that fence can be mended over time.

>

> Now the truth is, I'm on a lot of lists, and I'm going away on

> Wednesday to a convention, so I won't be posting a lot here. But I

am

> glad to be here, and hope that everybody will kiss and make up but

no

> sloppy wet ones, okay? Ick, cooties.

>

> I'm baaaaaaaack...

> Martha

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I wanted to also mention that Martha and I talked and are fine with

each other. People say hurtful things when emotions run high .Its

easy to be hurtful when your with a group of people who are also

being hurtful. It is much much harder to work something out with

someone ,to each look at what your part was, to apoligies to each

other and move on. Im so glad with me and Martha at least we could

be real grown ups here! Thanks Chickie

Shell

> > Thanks, Shell, for your invitation back to the group. As ANYONE

> who

> > knows me can tell you, I have stuck my foot in my mouth too many

> > times (and had to apologize) for me to not recognize and accept

> your

> > gracious apology. And yes, I've got a very off-beat sense of

humor

> > that sometimes gets misinterpreted. Then it all got escalated so

> > quickly that I notice that for me, at least, it was hard to get

> some

> > perspective on all the emotions flying around. It's especially

> hard

> > to understand subtle stuff in a non-visual context like this

one.

> I

> > hope that your apology has lowered the temperature for all

> concerned.

> >

> > I didn't even know this group was here until the problems with

the

> > Richmond program came up. I joined because I wanted to lend my

> voice

> > to help settle that situation. I think we WLS-ers need each

other,

> > and we can't support our own if we alienate programs like

> Richmond. I

> > also didn't want Steve Brook, another hard-working RN, to feel

> ganged-

> > up-on when he's doing his very best and is devoted to that

> program. I

> > hope that fence can be mended over time.

> >

> > Now the truth is, I'm on a lot of lists, and I'm going away on

> > Wednesday to a convention, so I won't be posting a lot here. But

I

> am

> > glad to be here, and hope that everybody will kiss and make up

but

> no

> > sloppy wet ones, okay? Ick, cooties.

> >

> > I'm baaaaaaaack...

> > Martha

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---Im glad you are back and I hope everyone can let this go and get

on with supporting each other.

Huggles

In gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-

patients , " nursefera2 " <nurseferatu@s...> wrote:

> Thanks, Shell, for your invitation back to the group. As ANYONE who

> knows me can tell you, I have stuck my foot in my mouth too many

> times (and had to apologize) for me to not recognize and accept

your

> gracious apology. And yes, I've got a very off-beat sense of humor

> that sometimes gets misinterpreted. Then it all got escalated so

> quickly that I notice that for me, at least, it was hard to get

some

> perspective on all the emotions flying around. It's especially hard

> to understand subtle stuff in a non-visual context like this one. I

> hope that your apology has lowered the temperature for all

concerned.

>

> I didn't even know this group was here until the problems with the

> Richmond program came up. I joined because I wanted to lend my

voice

> to help settle that situation. I think we WLS-ers need each other,

> and we can't support our own if we alienate programs like Richmond.

I

> also didn't want Steve Brook, another hard-working RN, to feel

ganged-

> up-on when he's doing his very best and is devoted to that program.

I

> hope that fence can be mended over time.

>

> Now the truth is, I'm on a lot of lists, and I'm going away on

> Wednesday to a convention, so I won't be posting a lot here. But I

am

> glad to be here, and hope that everybody will kiss and make up but

no

> sloppy wet ones, okay? Ick, cooties.

>

> I'm baaaaaaaack...

> Martha

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Hi Martha,

Glad to hear from you.

Have a good trip.

All the best,

Kay

open RNY 12/1/03

nursefera2 wrote:

Thanks,

Shell, for your invitation back to the group. As ANYONE who

knows me can tell you, I have stuck my foot in my mouth too many

times (and had to apologize) for me to not recognize and accept your

gracious apology. And yes, I've got a very off-beat sense of humor

that sometimes gets misinterpreted. Then it all got escalated so

quickly that I notice that for me, at least, it was hard to get some

perspective on all the emotions flying around. It's especially hard

to understand subtle stuff in a non-visual context like this one. I

hope that your apology has lowered the temperature for all concerned.

I didn't even know this group was here until the problems with the

Richmond program came up. I joined because I wanted to lend my voice

to help settle that situation. I think we WLS-ers need each other,

and we can't support our own if we alienate programs like Richmond. I

also didn't want Steve Brook, another hard-working RN, to feel ganged-

up-on when he's doing his very best and is devoted to that program. I

hope that fence can be mended over time.

Now the truth is, I'm on a lot of lists, and I'm going away on

Wednesday to a convention, so I won't be posting a lot here. But I am

glad to be here, and hope that everybody will kiss and make up but no

sloppy wet ones, okay? Ick, cooties.

I'm baaaaaaaack...

Martha

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