Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 TK--- I think you should post a link and this email to Andy so he can answer since you have consulted with him. > > I would like to get some other opinions as I struggle to determine for certain whether or not mercury is at the root cause of my health problems. > > 1). I pass Andy's counting test in the book > 2). I had a very severe adverse reaction to a DMPS challenge test the way Andy describes in the book after which I thought I was going to " hurt myself " with no previous psychiatric history or depression. This happened to me on the way home from that challenge test " out of the blue " . > Andy says in the book that if you happen to have had one of these " reactions " to a challenge test before getting a hold of his book, then this is " diagnostic " . I guess that's because if you are mercury toxic, then the DMPS mobilizes the mercury (Andy says to the liver and pancreas) and causes the suicidal reaction. I guess if there's no mercury there, you can't move it around and get that reaction. > > Here's what confuses me though: > > In 2002, I had Andy consult on my case. I provided him with some tests I had at the time, but I did not go over the counting thing with him. I'd like to quote what he says on his report: > > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, which implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects her body burden of arsenic, and the relatively low mercury level also reflects her body burden of it, suggestion she has normal healthy levels of mercury that are not contributing to a problem at this point. " > > " 's comprehensive detoxification profile is quite informative. In addition to showing her as having low plasma cysteine and sulfate, it also has elevated caffeine clearance and also a relatively high ratio of 2, 3 DHDA ti catechol, both laboratory signs consistent with chemical sensitivity due to accelerated phase 1 liver metabolism, and it also shows normal glutathione, normal glutathione peroxidase, yet elevated urine lipid peroxides. This would be quite unusual in someone who has a mercury problem. " > > This is me again............. > > If this were you, based on the fact that I have four of the conditions listed on the front of the book and also meet the criteria for the counting list and also had the very adverse reaction to the DMPS challenge test, would you still exclude mercury poisoning because of what Andy has stated above? I need opinions here please. I don't want to chelate for 3 years for nothing. I have been chelating since August and I don't miss a round. I don't want to do this for 3 years for nothing. > > Thanks, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 TK: I think that's a great idea to email Andy with this question, the only problem is that Andy will not respond to my emails. I think he thinks that I am mentally unstable. Just my guess. Re: Some input please > > > TK--- I think you should post a link and this email to Andy so he can > answer since you have consulted with him. > > > > > > > > I would like to get some other opinions as I struggle to determine > for certain whether or not mercury is at the root cause of my health > problems. > > > > 1). I pass Andy's counting test in the book > > 2). I had a very severe adverse reaction to a DMPS challenge test > the way Andy describes in the book after which I thought I was going > to " hurt myself " with no previous psychiatric history or depression. > This happened to me on the way home from that challenge test " out of > the blue " . > > Andy says in the book that if you happen to have had one of > these " reactions " to a challenge test before getting a hold of his > book, then this is " diagnostic " . I guess that's because if you are > mercury toxic, then the DMPS mobilizes the mercury (Andy says to the > liver and pancreas) and causes the suicidal reaction. I guess if > there's no mercury there, you can't move it around and get that > reaction. > > > > Here's what confuses me though: > > > > In 2002, I had Andy consult on my case. I provided him with some > tests I had at the time, but I did not go over the counting thing > with him. I'd like to quote what he says on his report: > > > > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, > which implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects > her body burden of arsenic, and the relatively low mercury level also > reflects her body burden of it, suggestion she has normal healthy > levels of mercury that are not contributing to a problem at this > point. " > > > > " 's comprehensive detoxification profile is quite > informative. In addition to showing her as having low plasma > cysteine and sulfate, it also has elevated caffeine clearance and > also a relatively high ratio of 2, 3 DHDA ti catechol, both > laboratory signs consistent with chemical sensitivity due to > accelerated phase 1 liver metabolism, and it also shows normal > glutathione, normal glutathione peroxidase, yet elevated urine lipid > peroxides. This would be quite unusual in someone who has a mercury > problem. " > > > > This is me again............. > > > > If this were you, based on the fact that I have four of the > conditions listed on the front of the book and also meet the criteria > for the counting list and also had the very adverse reaction to the > DMPS challenge test, would you still exclude mercury poisoning > because of what Andy has stated above? I need opinions here > please. I don't want to chelate for 3 years for nothing. I have > been chelating since August and I don't miss a round. I don't want > to do this for 3 years for nothing. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 > > I would like to get some other opinions as I struggle to determine for certain whether or not mercury is at the root cause of my health problems. > > 1). I pass Andy's counting test in the book > 2). I had a very severe adverse reaction to a DMPS challenge test the way Andy describes in the book after which I thought I was going to " hurt myself " with no previous psychiatric history or depression. This happened to me on the way home from that challenge test " out of the blue " . > Andy says in the book that if you happen to have had one of these " reactions " to a challenge test before getting a hold of his book, then this is " diagnostic " . I guess that's because if you are mercury toxic, then the DMPS mobilizes the mercury (Andy says to the liver and pancreas) and causes the suicidal reaction. I guess if there's no mercury there, you can't move it around and get that reaction. > > Here's what confuses me though: > > In 2002, I had Andy consult on my case. I provided him with some tests I had at the time, but I did not go over the counting thing with him. I'd like to quote what he says on his report: > > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, which implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects her body burden of arsenic, and the relatively low mercury level also reflects her body burden of it, suggestion she has normal healthy levels of mercury that are not contributing to a problem at this point. " , This is confusing. Above you said that you " pass Andy's counting test " . But he states that you have normal mineral transport. You and he are either looking at different hair tests or you are interpreting the same test differently.... I suppose DMPS could have caused a drug reaction, rather than pulling mercury??? I'm no expert, though. Andy would surely have useful input. I agree with TK - post to Andy for clarification. -- > " 's comprehensive detoxification profile is quite informative. In addition to showing her as having low plasma cysteine and sulfate, it also has elevated caffeine clearance and also a relatively high ratio of 2, 3 DHDA ti catechol, both laboratory signs consistent with chemical sensitivity due to accelerated phase 1 liver metabolism, and it also shows normal glutathione, normal glutathione peroxidase, yet elevated urine lipid peroxides. This would be quite unusual in someone who has a mercury problem. " > > This is me again............. > > If this were you, based on the fact that I have four of the conditions listed on the front of the book and also meet the criteria for the counting list and also had the very adverse reaction to the DMPS challenge test, would you still exclude mercury poisoning because of what Andy has stated above? I need opinions here please. I don't want to chelate for 3 years for nothing. I have been chelating since August and I don't miss a round. I don't want to do this for 3 years for nothing. > > Thanks, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Hi , What I notice in reading this is that (according to Andy's comment) you are arsenic poisoned. Which leads me to wonder if you are using ALA (which clears arsenic, as well as mercury). If you are not using ALA, I would suggest you do so. good wishes, Moria > > I would like to get some other opinions as I struggle to determine for certain whether or not mercury is at the root cause of my health problems. > > 1). I pass Andy's counting test in the book > 2). I had a very severe adverse reaction to a DMPS challenge test the way Andy describes in the book after which I thought I was going to " hurt myself " with no previous psychiatric history or depression. This happened to me on the way home from that challenge test " out of the blue " . > Andy says in the book that if you happen to have had one of these " reactions " to a challenge test before getting a hold of his book, then this is " diagnostic " . I guess that's because if you are mercury toxic, then the DMPS mobilizes the mercury (Andy says to the liver and pancreas) and causes the suicidal reaction. I guess if there's no mercury there, you can't move it around and get that reaction. > > Here's what confuses me though: > > In 2002, I had Andy consult on my case. I provided him with some tests I had at the time, but I did not go over the counting thing with him. I'd like to quote what he says on his report: > > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, which implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects her body burden of arsenic, and the relatively low mercury level also reflects her body burden of it, suggestion she has normal healthy levels of mercury that are not contributing to a problem at this point. " > > " 's comprehensive detoxification profile is quite informative. In addition to showing her as having low plasma cysteine and sulfate, it also has elevated caffeine clearance and also a relatively high ratio of 2, 3 DHDA ti catechol, both laboratory signs consistent with chemical sensitivity due to accelerated phase 1 liver metabolism, and it also shows normal glutathione, normal glutathione peroxidase, yet elevated urine lipid peroxides. This would be quite unusual in someone who has a mercury problem. " > > This is me again............. > > If this were you, based on the fact that I have four of the conditions listed on the front of the book and also meet the criteria for the counting list and also had the very adverse reaction to the DMPS challenge test, would you still exclude mercury poisoning because of what Andy has stated above? I need opinions here please. I don't want to chelate for 3 years for nothing. I have been chelating since August and I don't miss a round. I don't want to do this for 3 years for nothing. > > Thanks, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, which >implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects her body >burden of arsenic, Doesn't that mean arsenic poisoning? Which chelators are used for arsenic (I forget). >and the relatively low mercury level also reflects her body burden of >it, suggestion she has normal healthy levels of mercury that are not >contributing to a problem at this point. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, which >implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects her body >burden of arsenic, Doesn't that mean arsenic poisoning? Which chelators are used for arsenic (I forget). >and the relatively low mercury level also reflects her body burden of >it, suggestion she has normal healthy levels of mercury that are not >contributing to a problem at this point. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 TK--- You need to make sure you address it to Andy and send the email and a link to the forum message # for him to respond. He is busy and doesn't always get to everything. I would also think if the question is something that has already been answered or can be here he might defer to the forums response so he can concentrate on what we can't answer [just a guess also] > > > > > > I would like to get some other opinions as I struggle to determine > > for certain whether or not mercury is at the root cause of my health > > problems. > > > > > > 1). I pass Andy's counting test in the book > > > 2). I had a very severe adverse reaction to a DMPS challenge test > > the way Andy describes in the book after which I thought I was going > > to " hurt myself " with no previous psychiatric history or depression. > > This happened to me on the way home from that challenge test " out of > > the blue " . > > > Andy says in the book that if you happen to have had one of > > these " reactions " to a challenge test before getting a hold of his > > book, then this is " diagnostic " . I guess that's because if you are > > mercury toxic, then the DMPS mobilizes the mercury (Andy says to the > > liver and pancreas) and causes the suicidal reaction. I guess if > > there's no mercury there, you can't move it around and get that > > reaction. > > > > > > Here's what confuses me though: > > > > > > In 2002, I had Andy consult on my case. I provided him with some > > tests I had at the time, but I did not go over the counting thing > > with him. I'd like to quote what he says on his report: > > > > > > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, > > which implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects > > her body burden of arsenic, and the relatively low mercury level also > > reflects her body burden of it, suggestion she has normal healthy > > levels of mercury that are not contributing to a problem at this > > point. " > > > > > > " 's comprehensive detoxification profile is quite > > informative. In addition to showing her as having low plasma > > cysteine and sulfate, it also has elevated caffeine clearance and > > also a relatively high ratio of 2, 3 DHDA ti catechol, both > > laboratory signs consistent with chemical sensitivity due to > > accelerated phase 1 liver metabolism, and it also shows normal > > glutathione, normal glutathione peroxidase, yet elevated urine lipid > > peroxides. This would be quite unusual in someone who has a mercury > > problem. " > > > > > > This is me again............. > > > > > > If this were you, based on the fact that I have four of the > > conditions listed on the front of the book and also meet the criteria > > for the counting list and also had the very adverse reaction to the > > DMPS challenge test, would you still exclude mercury poisoning > > because of what Andy has stated above? I need opinions here > > please. I don't want to chelate for 3 years for nothing. I have > > been chelating since August and I don't miss a round. I don't want > > to do this for 3 years for nothing. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 , ALA is used for arsenic. Re: Some input please > > > > " 's hair element profile shows normal mineral transport, which > >implies that the vastly elevated arsenic accurately reflects her body > >burden of arsenic, > > > Doesn't that mean arsenic poisoning? Which chelators are used for > arsenic (I forget). > > > > > > > >and the relatively low mercury level also reflects her body burden > of >it, suggestion she has normal healthy levels of mercury that are > not >contributing to a problem at this point. " > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 > > , > > ALA is used for arsenic. > > > > Would your doctor be willing to prescribe low dose oral DMPS to use with the ALA? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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