Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 Hi - The hypothalamus is involved at the very least to a certain degree. We have to have cues from our outside environment about whether we're cold or hot, have seasonal cycles, diurnal cycles, hormonal cycles, etc..... That's one problem I have with ablation or complete removal of our thyroids. We no longer have the ability to fine tune our systems when we are on a single dose of thyroid hormone. The pituitary gets signals from both the hypothalamus in the form of TRH (chemicals are produced that signal it) which is indirectly signaled by the outside environment and the inner environment (T3 and T4) about how much thyroid hormone you need at a given time. The hypothalamus is definitely involved in the production of thyroid hormone. Take care, Utecht Hearn wrote: > Well I would like to add one little thing. I was at the GP's a few weeks > ago. For some reason I commented that my father had buggy eyes and guess > what? The GP commented > that that was caused by the hypothalamus. I should have persued it. I'm > thinking that maybe perhaps the allopathic community does have it's > suspecions that the hypothalamus is involved in Graves this and that is > where Sr Stoll got his idea. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups members: $60 in FREE calls! Join beMANY! > And pay less each month for long distance. > http://click./1/4122/5/_/585824/_/959854786/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 I am completely puzzled by people who continue to defend RAI when they have suffered so much. Hi - I know you wrote to Dianne (who doesn't defend RAI) but I find it curious too especially when people are doing poorly afterwards. It could be that people who defend RAI (and haven't done well) are desperate to believe that they haven't harmed themselves irreparably. And they may be convinced that they were going to feel poorly anyways and didn't have a choice. I've talked to a couple of people that have finally come out and said that. Take care, Utecht Hearn wrote: > Ha yes Dianne, But this is rather recent research. Isn't it? A > retrovirus is my own personal favourite theory. We have discussed > antibodies at length on this board. However, this theory has not been > accepted by allopathic world as it is has been in the homeopathic world. > I bet most endos will tell you that there is no proof that virus > instigates any autoimmune response so they just continue to destroy > thyroids with RAI in the absolute belief that that is they only way to > treat Graves. It seems strange that they don't use the same logic with > rheumatoid arthritis by removing limbs. There are even some > considerations given to diet for rheumatoid. Dr. Stoll might very well > be a quack but he might also be right and he has certainly developed a > far less drastic form of treatment. I am completely puzzled by people > who continue to defend RAI when they have suffered so much. It must have > something to do with the Stockholm syndrome. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for SUPPORT on lowering Long Distance bills? Join beMANY! > Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall > monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! > http://click./1/4830/5/_/585824/_/959890033/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 Ha yes Dianne, But this is rather recent research. Isn't it? A retrovirus is my own personal favourite theory. We have discussed antibodies at length on this board. However, this theory has not been accepted by allopathic world as it is has been in the homeopathic world. I bet most endos will tell you that there is no proof that virus instigates any autoimmune response so they just continue to destroy thyroids with RAI in the absolute belief that that is they only way to treat Graves. It seems strange that they don't use the same logic with rheumatoid arthritis by removing limbs. There are even some considerations given to diet for rheumatoid. Dr. Stoll might very well be a quack but he might also be right and he has certainly developed a far less drastic form of treatment. I am completely puzzled by people who continue to defend RAI when they have suffered so much. It must have something to do with the Stockholm syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2000 Report Share Posted June 27, 2000 Here I am.....had a massive migraine yesterday, today I'm feeling like i did when I was first diagnosed....figures just 4 more days till my insurance kicks in. Jewls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2000 Report Share Posted June 27, 2000 I'm here! Feeling pretty good, too. Guess I only post when I'm feeling weird. I've stopped taking all those vitamins, and I feel a *lot* better than I did. I still take that B multi, though. No energy, unless I take that. Anyone else find that too many vitamins might not be the best thing? Also...question! Is yoga a good way to tone muscles and maintain weight? Can you actually *lose* weight, doing yoga? Kari Graves Where oh where has everyone gone? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! Conference in the whole family on the same call. Let the fights begin! Visit Firetalk.com - Click below. http://click./1/5476/6/_/585824/_/962127930/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2000 Report Share Posted June 27, 2000 Kari - this is re the vitamins. What were you taking before you stopped and now feel better? Fay Young ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2000 Report Share Posted June 27, 2000 Kari - this is re the vitamins. What were you taking before you stopped and now feel better? Fay Young ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2000 Report Share Posted June 27, 2000 Poor Jewls! Migraines are the worst. What do you do for them? I take a long, hot shower and put a cold cloth on my eyes and go to bed. I hear that Migraine Excedrin stuff works, too. kari Re: Graves Here I am.....had a massive migraine yesterday, today I'm feeling like i did when I was first diagnosed....figures just 4 more days till my insurance kicks in. Jewls ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! Visit Firetalk.com - click below. http://click./1/5479/6/_/585824/_/962141132/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2000 Report Share Posted June 27, 2000 Hi Kari, Yoga is a great way to tone muscles and it does help eliminate emotional eating. Although I've done aerobics for years I started yoga and tai chi 6 months ago and find them both challenging because of the discipline. I'd considered myself flexible til I started yoga. I sympathize with everyone suffering from headaches. After many years, I finally figured out what triggers my headaches. Since I'm allergic to most analgesics, it's been a challenge. I've found that if it's a tension headache, deep breathing exercises and a cold washcloth over my eyes usually works if I can spare 10 minutes. If I don't have time, I use Alleve (naproxen) and this helps. I've also figured out which foods, etc. trigger headaches and for those I have to eliminate the culprit like wines, cigarette smoke, etc. I've had tremendous relief from sinus headaches and all my allergic symptoms using Singular, the new allergy med that inhibits the leukotriene allergic pathway, working in a different manner than antihistamines. After a month on it, I haven't had any headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 , I am copying and pasting an article I just received today from a friend in another group I am involved with regarding immunizations...it is about drs. who are stockholders in drug companies Elaine, Can you send me your private e-mail addie and I will send you an article I received today about Dr. Wakefield in the UK and Dr. O'Leary from Ireland. It isn't big but it does talk about how the immunizations are affecting immune systems. I just don't want to take up room here for those not interested. My e-mail addie is luckystrike@... I will send it out to you and U tomorrow then. Here is the article regarding drs. and drug companies. I believe this is about drs. in the UK but have also been told that this is routine for drs. in our country I agree, it is most definately a conflict of interest as well as unethical. SCANDAL OF DRUG DOCTORS' SHARES BY JONATHAN CALVERT AND LUCY JOHNSTON http://www.lineone.net/express/00/08/06/news/n0100splash-d.html MANY experts who advise the Government on the safety of medicines have shares in the drug companies which benefit from their decisions, the Sunday Express can reveal. More than two thirds of the doctors and academics who serve on committees of the Medicines Control Agency have investments in the pharmaceutical industry or benefit from drug company cash. Some doctors have huge shareholdings worth more than £100,000 in major companies such as Kline Beecham and AstraZeneca. Many others are dependent on consultancies, fees and research grants from the industry giants. The extent of the links between the experts and industry leaves the committees open to allegations of conflicts of interest. There is also a concern that doctors may have an unfair advantage in share-dealing because they are privy to confidential, price-sensitive information. Last night Harvey, the Liberal Democrats' health spokesman, called for a tightening up of the regulations governing the advisers' interests. He said: " If these experts still have large personal pecuniary interests in the drug companies, we cannot be confident they are making objective decisions. " Mr Harvey also condemned the secrecy in the committees' meetings, which are all held behind closed doors. He said: " Justice to the consumer has to be done and it has to be seen to be done. It can't at the moment because the system is so shrouded in secrecy. " The committees of the MCA consist of doctors and academics who are experts in their fields. Their advice is crucial in deciding whether a drug should be licensed or withdrawn form the market. The Sunday Express found that more than 170 of the MCA's 248 members have financial links with pharmaceutical companies. A total of 42 own shares in a variety of companies. But the drug companies say there is no alternative to the present system - because there are so few experts available that they are in constant demand by both Government and the industry. © Express Newspapers, 2000 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 , I am copying and pasting an article I just received today from a friend in another group I am involved with regarding immunizations...it is about drs. who are stockholders in drug companies Elaine, Can you send me your private e-mail addie and I will send you an article I received today about Dr. Wakefield in the UK and Dr. O'Leary from Ireland. It isn't big but it does talk about how the immunizations are affecting immune systems. I just don't want to take up room here for those not interested. My e-mail addie is luckystrike@... I will send it out to you and U tomorrow then. Here is the article regarding drs. and drug companies. I believe this is about drs. in the UK but have also been told that this is routine for drs. in our country I agree, it is most definately a conflict of interest as well as unethical. SCANDAL OF DRUG DOCTORS' SHARES BY JONATHAN CALVERT AND LUCY JOHNSTON http://www.lineone.net/express/00/08/06/news/n0100splash-d.html MANY experts who advise the Government on the safety of medicines have shares in the drug companies which benefit from their decisions, the Sunday Express can reveal. More than two thirds of the doctors and academics who serve on committees of the Medicines Control Agency have investments in the pharmaceutical industry or benefit from drug company cash. Some doctors have huge shareholdings worth more than £100,000 in major companies such as Kline Beecham and AstraZeneca. Many others are dependent on consultancies, fees and research grants from the industry giants. The extent of the links between the experts and industry leaves the committees open to allegations of conflicts of interest. There is also a concern that doctors may have an unfair advantage in share-dealing because they are privy to confidential, price-sensitive information. Last night Harvey, the Liberal Democrats' health spokesman, called for a tightening up of the regulations governing the advisers' interests. He said: " If these experts still have large personal pecuniary interests in the drug companies, we cannot be confident they are making objective decisions. " Mr Harvey also condemned the secrecy in the committees' meetings, which are all held behind closed doors. He said: " Justice to the consumer has to be done and it has to be seen to be done. It can't at the moment because the system is so shrouded in secrecy. " The committees of the MCA consist of doctors and academics who are experts in their fields. Their advice is crucial in deciding whether a drug should be licensed or withdrawn form the market. The Sunday Express found that more than 170 of the MCA's 248 members have financial links with pharmaceutical companies. A total of 42 own shares in a variety of companies. But the drug companies say there is no alternative to the present system - because there are so few experts available that they are in constant demand by both Government and the industry. © Express Newspapers, 2000 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 > Here is the article regarding drs. and drug companies. I believe this is > about drs. in the UK but have also been told that this is routine for drs. > in our country I agree, it is most definately a conflict of interest as > well as unethical. > > SCANDAL OF DRUG DOCTORS' SHARES > BY JONATHAN CALVERT AND LUCY JOHNSTON > > http://www.lineone.net/express/00/08/06/news/n0100splash-d.html > Jody, Here is an article covering another aspect related to conflict of interests. The positive part of these kind of news is that they should serve to encourage us to be more assertive when our symptoms are disminished by docs., or when they simply try to use the " take this pill and done " dogma. Though there are some good and careing doctors, many spurious interests are amidst medical practice, and it's good for us to be aware of it. Don't you think so? A. *^*^*^*^* Medical News Writing Faulted In NEJM Article Newspaper and television reports on new medications tend to exaggerate their benefits, ignore their risks, and fail to disclose their costs, according to a collaborative study in the June 1 New England Journal of Medicine. The study also found that only 40 percent of news stories citing experts with financial ties to the drug being studied disclosed this potential conflict of interest. " Major scientific journals require study authors to disclose industry links, as evidence suggests that commercial funding of research may lead to more favorable research outcomes, " says Ray Moynihan, the study's lead author, and an award-winning medical journalist with the Sydney-based Australian Financial Review. " This standard might be adopted by the news media so the public can make more informed decisions on their health care. " The study also found that of the 207 stories randomly selected, 40 percent did not offer any numerical analysis of a drug's benefits, leaving the public without any benchmark to judge the overall value of the drug to their health. Of the 124 stories that did, 83 percent reported only relative benefits, a practice that can be viewed as potentially misleading. For example, 1996 reports on a new osteoporosis drug said it would reduce hip fractures by 50 percent, a relative figure that exaggerates the power of the drug when placed next to its absolute benefit. In absolute terms, only two percent of untreated osteoporosis sufferers sustain hip fractures, meaning the new drug would reduce hip fractures from two to one percent of this affected population. Of the stories using figures, only 15 percent mentioned both relative and absolute benefits. Further, 53 percent of the stories failed to discuss potential harms of the three medications included in the study: aspirin, pravastatin, and alendronate. Each drug, while having many benefits, is associated with a range of potential adverse effects. And 70 percent of the stories made no mention of cost-effectiveness, an increasingly important measure of a drug's overall value to society. " The media are a very important source of public health information, " says Dr. Soumerai, a study co-author and HMS professor of ambulatory care and prevention. " But stories on new drugs can be misleading when they fail to address potential conflicts of interest and don't discuss both relative and absolute benefits, risks and costs. We hope this study provides some focus for journalists and editors who are continually striving for greater accuracy in medical coverage. " " The media perform a vital service to the public when they accurately report drug benefits and risks and when they identify potential conflicts of interest of experts quoted, " says Bero, co-author of the study, an expert on industry-university relations. Bero is an associate professor of clinical pharmacy at the University of California, San Francisco. Moynihan developed the study while serving as a Commonwealth Fund Harkness Fellow in the Department of Ambulatory Care and Prevention (DACP), a joint teaching and research department of Harvard Medical School and Harvard Pilgrim Health Care (HPHC), a Massachusetts-based managed care organization. Moynihan worked with primary mentor and senior researcher Soumerai, head of DACP's Drug Policy Research Group. Dennis Ross- Degnan of Harvard Medical School, Bero and Kirby Lee of UC San Francisco and Henry of the University of Newcastle, Australia, were also paramount to the study's development, methodology, and conclusions. The study's authors obtained stories on the coverage of the three drugs from 36 U.S. newspapers, including both large-circulation national papers and regional papers, between 1994 and 1998. Approximately 400 stories were reviewed, and 180 were included. >From television, coverage from nightly network news and a 24-hour news station was included. Ninety television stories were identified and reviewed, of which 27 met study inclusion criteria. The drugs used in the media analysis were selected because of their strong preventive medicine benefits, potential for consumer interest, and for the large amount of media attention they received. Alendronate, better known as Fosamax, was launched in 1995 for the treatment and prevention of osteoporosis. Pravastatin, or Pravachol, was introduced in 1991 as a cholesterol-lowering drug for cardiovascular disease. Aspirin was included because it was an off- patent drug and has been shown to prevent cardiovascular disease. " The public increasingly wants and needs to make informed judgments about the use of new medications on the market, " says Commonwealth Fund President . " This study shows that newspapers and television need to do a better job in reporting about both the benefits and the risks of new drugs. " This study was funded through the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation supporting independent research on health and social issues, and Harvard Pilgrim Health Care Foundation. - By Lacey [Contact: Ray Moynihan, Lacey] 01-Jun-2000 http://unisci.com/stories/20002/0601005.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 > Here is the article regarding drs. and drug companies. I believe this is > about drs. in the UK but have also been told that this is routine for drs. > in our country I agree, it is most definately a conflict of interest as > well as unethical. > > SCANDAL OF DRUG DOCTORS' SHARES > BY JONATHAN CALVERT AND LUCY JOHNSTON > > http://www.lineone.net/express/00/08/06/news/n0100splash-d.html > Jody, Here is an article covering another aspect related to conflict of interests. The positive part of these kind of news is that they should serve to encourage us to be more assertive when our symptoms are disminished by docs., or when they simply try to use the " take this pill and done " dogma. Though there are some good and careing doctors, many spurious interests are amidst medical practice, and it's good for us to be aware of it. Don't you think so? A. *^*^*^*^* Medical News Writing Faulted In NEJM Article Newspaper and television reports on new medications tend to exaggerate their benefits, ignore their risks, and fail to disclose their costs, according to a collaborative study in the June 1 New England Journal of Medicine. The study also found that only 40 percent of news stories citing experts with financial ties to the drug being studied disclosed this potential conflict of interest. " Major scientific journals require study authors to disclose industry links, as evidence suggests that commercial funding of research may lead to more favorable research outcomes, " says Ray Moynihan, the study's lead author, and an award-winning medical journalist with the Sydney-based Australian Financial Review. " This standard might be adopted by the news media so the public can make more informed decisions on their health care. " The study also found that of the 207 stories randomly selected, 40 percent did not offer any numerical analysis of a drug's benefits, leaving the public without any benchmark to judge the overall value of the drug to their health. Of the 124 stories that did, 83 percent reported only relative benefits, a practice that can be viewed as potentially misleading. For example, 1996 reports on a new osteoporosis drug said it would reduce hip fractures by 50 percent, a relative figure that exaggerates the power of the drug when placed next to its absolute benefit. In absolute terms, only two percent of untreated osteoporosis sufferers sustain hip fractures, meaning the new drug would reduce hip fractures from two to one percent of this affected population. Of the stories using figures, only 15 percent mentioned both relative and absolute benefits. Further, 53 percent of the stories failed to discuss potential harms of the three medications included in the study: aspirin, pravastatin, and alendronate. Each drug, while having many benefits, is associated with a range of potential adverse effects. And 70 percent of the stories made no mention of cost-effectiveness, an increasingly important measure of a drug's overall value to society. " The media are a very important source of public health information, " says Dr. Soumerai, a study co-author and HMS professor of ambulatory care and prevention. " But stories on new drugs can be misleading when they fail to address potential conflicts of interest and don't discuss both relative and absolute benefits, risks and costs. We hope this study provides some focus for journalists and editors who are continually striving for greater accuracy in medical coverage. " " The media perform a vital service to the public when they accurately report drug benefits and risks and when they identify potential conflicts of interest of experts quoted, " says Bero, co-author of the study, an expert on industry-university relations. Bero is an associate professor of clinical pharmacy at the University of California, San Francisco. Moynihan developed the study while serving as a Commonwealth Fund Harkness Fellow in the Department of Ambulatory Care and Prevention (DACP), a joint teaching and research department of Harvard Medical School and Harvard Pilgrim Health Care (HPHC), a Massachusetts-based managed care organization. Moynihan worked with primary mentor and senior researcher Soumerai, head of DACP's Drug Policy Research Group. Dennis Ross- Degnan of Harvard Medical School, Bero and Kirby Lee of UC San Francisco and Henry of the University of Newcastle, Australia, were also paramount to the study's development, methodology, and conclusions. The study's authors obtained stories on the coverage of the three drugs from 36 U.S. newspapers, including both large-circulation national papers and regional papers, between 1994 and 1998. Approximately 400 stories were reviewed, and 180 were included. >From television, coverage from nightly network news and a 24-hour news station was included. Ninety television stories were identified and reviewed, of which 27 met study inclusion criteria. The drugs used in the media analysis were selected because of their strong preventive medicine benefits, potential for consumer interest, and for the large amount of media attention they received. Alendronate, better known as Fosamax, was launched in 1995 for the treatment and prevention of osteoporosis. Pravastatin, or Pravachol, was introduced in 1991 as a cholesterol-lowering drug for cardiovascular disease. Aspirin was included because it was an off- patent drug and has been shown to prevent cardiovascular disease. " The public increasingly wants and needs to make informed judgments about the use of new medications on the market, " says Commonwealth Fund President . " This study shows that newspapers and television need to do a better job in reporting about both the benefits and the risks of new drugs. " This study was funded through the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation supporting independent research on health and social issues, and Harvard Pilgrim Health Care Foundation. - By Lacey [Contact: Ray Moynihan, Lacey] 01-Jun-2000 http://unisci.com/stories/20002/0601005.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 Gotta tell you guys about the dermatologist that I went to. I probably spent $500 for acne products in her office. All the stuff she " prescribed " just happened to be dispensed there. It took me a while to get some noggin sense. By the way, she also told me that the swelling in my joints was due to eczema. My joints and the skin above them would swell up and get hot so much that the skin would burst. I tried everything but it's gone with the T3 (this is not a cure-all but a good place to start if one is missing a thyroid gland) Aargh!!!! Take care, Hearn wrote: > Debbie isn't there a college of physicians that oversees these doctors > to whom you can report your horror story. It seems to me that it is a > conflict of interest for a doctor to be allowed to sell drugs. > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 Hmmmmmm, what nutrients are in chocolate, sugar or salt though? Those are the things I get cravings for at different times. My sister who does JSJ says when I get them to feed them, that my body is needing *something* from those. Jody _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 Hi Terrie, I think you ought to share your husband, for treatments, could just send him on a round robin to all of us <kidding> I didn't think we were suppose to drink grapefruit juice??? Something about the way it reacts with TRH...am I right on that or getting it confused with something else? I wouldn't touch the Atkins diet. Have had 3 drs. tell me know way, first endo also said our metabolisms are screwed up enough and the diet just makes it harder for us to get anywhere near normal. In June of this year, my brother, age 56, had a stroke after being on the Atkins diet for 6 months...the drs who treated him attribute it to a big cause for the stroke...not the only one, but a big one. Let me know what you think about the menopause diet if you try it would you? I'm soon to be 48 and am now peri-menopausal. Thanks, Jody _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Hi all, The leg cramp thing has been a constant for me until recently. My chiropractor suggested that calcium wasn't getting absorbed even though I was taking it. She suggested taking it with something acidic like OJ or grapefruit juice, and that seems to help, along with religiously doing some good stretching exercises. As for the random pains, I get them in my feet! I thought it was the start of arthritis (I'm 52), but my husband/acupuncturist makes it go away immediately with treatment, then it doesn't come back for 6 months or so. He also treats a lot of carpal tunnel folk, very successfully. On another subject, I just got The Menopause Diet by Larrian Gillespie, referred to in a link here. Or at least most of the book, mine is defective with about 40 missing pages in the middle (Amazon's replacing it). Anyone read it and have any success using it? I hesitate to completely follow her advice, as some of it involves limiting the range of foods I eat in ways that bother me, both as a food lover and as a cooking teacher/caterer. I especially am revolted by sugar substitutes and egg white omelets! I did Atkins for nearly a year, with success as long as I stayed strict, but gained all the weight I had lost back when I stopped, plus 5 pounds. I wonder about Gillespie's small meals more frequently philosophy. I wish my brain could get around the science, which is daunting, although I understand about insulin receptors being overloaded and then everything being stored as fat. I've got a bit of a weight problem, not as much as many, but as I go deeper into menopause, there is definitely more struggle and more weight gain happening despite the struggle. Also, I was always so ravenous when I was hyper I never lost weight, envied others I know who did. I am definitely saddled with mother-memory weight problems, she was obsessive, skinny, and very much into laying her head trips on her kids. I have a hard time handling being at all heavy because of it, even though I'm not that bad. Terry P > > > Hi Gang do you think that we are ravenous for certain things because not > enough nutrients are getting into the cells? > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hi Jody, Although fluoride contributes to hypothyroidism because it interferes with iodine absorption, I haven't heard of it acting as a trigger for autoimmune disease. Fluoride, chloride, bromide and other monovalent ions are much like iodine in structure so they compete with one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hi Terri, How interesting. Do you recall how they diagnosed your pemphigus disorder? There's an antibody test for the pemphigoid skin disorders, but I don't know much about the mucous membrane disorder. It sort of bothers me that I keep mentioning that I think I have mild Sjogren's--which causes lots of tooth and gum problems since there isn't sufficient saliva--and both my dentist and hygienist just look at me blankly and never comment. I'm going to a new doc this week and I think I'll ask for some tests to rule Sjogren's out...or confirm it. Just an update to let you know that my book on Graves' disease is now I'll also stop at the Chinese market and look for the toothpaste. Thanks for your insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hi Jody- That's probably more the T3 in Armour that's making the difference rather than the quality of conversion. If you're on 2 gr. of Armour, you're taking 18 mcg of T3 in addition to the 76 mcg of T4 found in Armour. This T3 in Armour is very important for those of us that can't convert T4 to T3 effectively. This 18 mcg of T3 is 8 mcg more than a healthy thyroid would make (10 mcg-the rest is converted in tissues) so there's probably something wrong with those of us that can't convert effectively. As an example, it usually takes 36+ mcg of T3 in Armour to get me in the mid-normal range. So something's wrong for me to need that much. Take care, Re: Graves > Jumping in here with what I have noticed since being on Armour. I feel like > the quality of conversion of the T4 to T3 in Armour is much better than just > the sythetic T4 to T3. I know I haven't been on it that long (6 mos.) but > it has made a huge difference in how I feel. > Jody > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hi Terry- Being slow to heal is a symptom of diabetes. Luckily, I haven't got that, at least not yet. I don't even have the insulin resistance that's associated with 50% of PCOS patients. I'm hoping that diabetes will never become a problem since it doesn't run in my family. Keeping my fingers crossed. Take care, Re: Graves > > > >> What generally happens when I get hypo is that even the smallest scratch > >> will get a nasty infection along with all the other problems that hypo > >> brings. > > > > Hi all, > > > > Yes, just to add my two cents again . . . since becoming subclinically hypo, > > my gums are bleeding and painful. In addition, I've had a sinus infection > > since mid-Feb and two courses of antibiotics didn't kick it. HOwever, > > yesterday I finally felt better after acupuncture twice in a week and some > > truly vile herbs the traditional chinese medical doctor gave me. We'll see. > > . . > > > > B > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > > intended to replace expert medical care. > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 > I was under the impression that people with autoimmune diseases have > trouble with their teeth. I know it is a problem for diabetics and > perhaps hypo people because as you say they heal slowly. Certain > antibiotics given to children in childhood change the colour of teeth. > It may be the s' genes, but I don't have any real problems with my teeth (with the exception of I do need to get around to getting a permanent crown. i had a tooth give way around a filling, the oldest filling I had. The temp filling wore out months ago and I'm lazy when it comes to going to the dentist hehehehehe). They are yellowed due to the tetracyline they put me on in high school for acne. So I am trying the whitening formual MetaDent. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 > Hi Terry- > > Being slow to heal is a symptom of diabetes. Luckily, I haven't got that, > at least not yet. I don't even have the insulin resistance that's > associated with 50% of PCOS patients. I'm hoping that diabetes will never > become a problem since it doesn't run in my family. Keeping my fingers > crossed. > > Take care, > > The slow healing is what gave us the clue hubby's insulin resistance went into full blown Type 2. We have a kitten who uses daddy as a platform and a speedbump on the kitty indy 500 in our house. His poor left leg is taking forever to heal up. We have to trimm Freddy's claws at least once a week, or else poor hubby would be completely shredded. Chances are good you shouldn't have to worry about diabetes, it is mostly genetic. It doesn run in my family either, but nether does auto immune disorders, so you never know. I got my fingers crossed too C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 , I know what you mean about the activity ... I love when it is like this, I learn so much. I have eaten lemons and limes since I was a child. I do put fresh lemon wedges in my water and when water is gone, I eat the lemon. I love them. My parents and grandparents use to tell me they would never have to worry about me getting scurvy. I didn't know it would hurt the teeth though. Maybe that is why I have had root canals on both upper front teeth, which subsequently broke and now have permanent crowns. I also have had 2 of my wisdom teeth and one molar crack and break. But no dentist I have ever gone to has asked me about the fruit I eat. Talk to you later. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Well I'm pretty short. But my cousin has a son with Graves who is about 7 feet tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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