Re: Re: DHEA - some thoughts

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Thanks Lisbeth for presenting the other side. I have read the pros as well

and the cons, but unlike yourself have not talked to my doctors about it. I

have also recently skim read some books in the bookstore about it - pros and

cons there as well. I'll address this to my doctors when I see them -

wasn't even aware that you could be tested for cortisol.

The article did surprise me a bit because it indicated that some of the very

people doing research on it seemed to have some doubts, but I think you

certainly took the right approach - researching and then speaking with your

doctor about it. Are you taking the synthetic form or a natural precursor

to dhea?

Mark

rheumatic Re: DHEA - some thoughts

> From: " Lisbeth " <lisbeth@...>

>

> Morning all:-))

>

> Thanks to Mark for making sure we aware of the percieved 'cons' of taking

> DHEA (very important!). I am taking it and would like to put the 'pros'

> side.

>

> Firstly I think this article is primarily concerned about people

(otherwise

> healthy people included (and especially)) leaping at the chance to obtain

> the 'fountain of youth' (I wish!) as some irresponsible sources claim.

>

> I won't state categorically state that time and time again people with our

> diseases have been found to be low in DHEA., but I believe that to be the

> case. Now how many of you have had your rheumy test for it??

>

> I personally have done the research, had all the relevant tests of

Cortisol

> levels etc. done (essential!) and 'talked' to others who have taken large

> doses for years. All this has lead me to making the *informed* decision

that

> for me and at this particular point in time it is the right thing to do. I

> have an 'expert' on the subject monitoring me all the time.

>

> I am fully aware that it is only treating symptoms for me and making me

feel

> better overall. It will not rid me of the infection which a mycoplasm test

> has shown that I have, but it enables me to get up in the morning and get

on

> with 'living.'

>

> This I am sure is how Mark sees his use of Metx. and all the rest of us

who

> take something that we know has side effects. As long as we are 'informed'

> and make this decision based on what we know then it's OK. We do whatever

we

> can to in order to carry on, being mindful of side effects and aiming

always

> for the ultimate cure.

>

> Apart from the strengthening of my muscles I have had several of the

'other'

> benefits that this article claim are bogus. I don't believe I come under

the

> category of those easily lead by the mind in this respect. Did I hear you

> say " what mind " <grin>

>

> BTW one of the things it claims to help is depression. It certainly has

> 'lifted my mood' but then one is not to know if that's simply because I

feel

> better over all as a result fo taking it? Why are things never straight

> forward<sigh>

>

> I would not be walking if it were not for DHEA !!!!!

>

> Well, it's debatible if you'd call what I do 'walking' but at least I am

> able to get around! When I want Warren (hubby) to come and help me with

> something I say to him " Walk this way please. " to which he responds with a

> naughty grin " That's IMPOSSIBLE!!! " Thank goodness for a man with a sense

of

> humour:-)))

>

> Here are some URL's for those interested in the 'pros' and anyone with any

> questions is most welcome to post me privately. I should perhaps point out

> that these are Lupus orientated (I have Lupus) as I understand it, it

> applies to RA (etc) too. I have other articles I can send.

>

> For our newbies are you aware of 's site? has put together this

> amazing site that has all sorts of 'goodies' on it and any time you're

> wondering about anything it would pay you to go there and look. DHEA is

> there and I've listed her ones on DHEA below. Sorry but I'm having

computer

> problems and can't access her site address but you will find it on our

site.

>

> Bottom line, do your research and if you decide it's for you find a

> Naturopath (or whoever) who 'really' knows their stuff. IMHO it is a very

> valid option, it has helped me tremendously.

>

> hugs,

> lisbeth

>

>

http://www.infotrieve.com/healthworld/std_format.cgi?med93-95+230404+(lupus)

> +AND+(DHEA):TI

>

http://www.infotrieve.com/healthworld/std_format.cgi?med93-95+967189+(lupus)

> +AND+(DHEA):TI

>

http://slc.quik.com/longhair/lupus/articles/Stanford%20Study%20on%20Treatmen

> t%20of%20Systemic%20Lupus%20Erythematosus%20and%20DHEA.html

>

http://lupus.about.com/health/lupus/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.e

> lef.rheumanet.org/newsletter/6/dehydroe.htm

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/6412/DHEA.htm

> http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/dheaupdate1.html

>

>

> >From: MHOLMES@... (HOLMES, MARK T.)

> >Here is an interesting article on DHEA and some concerns. Thought I

would

> >pass it along in case you are taking this.

> >http://onhealth.com/ch1/in-depth/item/item,2285_1_1.asp

> >Mark

>

>

>

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>From: MHOLMES@... (HOLMES, MARK T.)

>cons there as well. I'll address this to my doctors when I see them -

>wasn't even aware that you could be tested for cortisol.

>

Mark, I just completed two weeks ago the adrenal stress profile measuring

saliva levels of cortisol and DHEA (saliva tests measure " free " levels of

the hormones, not the inactive protein-bound levels measured in serum

tests). I should have the results in a couple of weeks.