Re: EXCUSE ME???

January 23, 2001

janicelpn@... writes:

> <<<<<< jokes which many people detest. Anything forwarded is a form of

spam if

> the other person did not request it.>>>>>>

>

> I did not mean to step on anyones toes. I did not know that all the

> people's addresses came through, it does not on the digest form,,,,,,I

> will have to remember that the next time, if there is a next time....

>

> As for jokes and such I myself found them to be a stress reliever and

> thought I could bring a smile to someones face, if only for a

> second........so I guess I must stop that , gee and here I thought I was

> doing something nice. And I suppose any story, however funny, about

> Spanky should also be stopped. let's see that leaves talking only about

> Fibro, like we don't have a whole life,,,,,,OK, seems like some people

> must be in a mighty bad flare right now, I just hope you feel better

> fast.......so once again, I am sorry if my stories or jokes or misc.

> messages offended anyone. I know laughter and sometimes things other

> than talk about pain is helpful............ Janice, mother to the

> unmentionable...............

>

Hi Jan,

I read the post (above) about " spam " and the jokes. I almost fell off my

chair!!!

Just so you know I can't believe that someone actually sent you that

statement!!!

I did not see the persons post (who is really going through a " FM " moment or

something), but from your reply post I thought that this person is a crabby,

unsociable, wallowing in their own pain and never getting any sunshine (to

name a few descriptions about them) person.

I was going to write to you privately to find out what happened, but decided

that I will send an unsolicited email to the group!!!

I can see not wanting too much politics, false info, commercial email, and

the list goes on, BUT JOKES!!!! What the heck (excuse my French)! WHAT IS

WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE ON THIS GROUP??? They should not be on an email group

if they do not want to get email!!! This just wants me to quit this group

cause of all the fussiness and complaining about nothing!!!

This disease is the worst, and now we need to hear this from people who

obviously doesn't want to laugh ever!!!! The jokes that I have been getting

in this group are funny, and really that is the best medicine.

Besides the jokes the stories that people send are also great, we need to

live and laugh!!!!

SO I AM YELLING THIS: I LOVE JOKES! I LOVE STORIES! I LOVE THE FACT THAT

SOMEDAYS I CAN COME HERE AND LAUGH!!!

AND I DID NOT " ASK " FOR THEIR EMAIL!!

OK, thank you for letting me scream!!!!

Jan, thank you for listening and HOW IS SPANKY?????

Sending Comfort and Peace

Janice

" I wish we could change our dials to AM instead of FM!!! "

January 23, 2001

HELLO ALL!

Been down with a terrible flu which caught just after my kidney scope test.

The kidney Dr was able to remove 1 stone on the right kidney which leaves 1

too high up to basket the stone as they call it. I have the 1 left in the

left kidney as well. He also powerwashed out the kidneys, no wonder I felt

like I was hit by a truck that night. It contained enough crystals, which are

the earliest form of a kidney stone to make a very big one. So, I am happy

about that. We weren't expecting that part... me or the specialist. I am

just thankful it was done or I would still be passing little jagged pieces of

crystals, which hurt more coming out than the stone itself, which resembles a

marble. The core of the stone is smooth it is the crystals around the core

which in time absorb into the core. I passed 1 stone last year which was

1/2 " in size and mostly crystals and I am sure I was heard in other countries

the pain was awful. The scope looks into the bladder and can at times

manipulate into the tubes which run from bladder to kidneys and back. The

stones MUST be outside the kidney itself and into the ureter and then a small

basket is attached to the scope with a light on the end. If the stone is

near dropping into the ureter the kidney can be manipulated until the stone

falls into the basket.. this is when your body is contorted as I call it.

LOL

Today is the first day(had scope on Jan8) in over a week I have had a small

amount of energy. This scope means you are on your back, as many of you know

the lumbar/SI spots are my worst and cause tears. I have also recently found

out I have osteoporosis in my spine, the same area as my worse fibro spots.

The guy who put me to sleep was a wonderful and kind man, who said I can ask

for when we do the next scope for the 2 stones left when they decide to move

down closer to the tubes to the bladder. He place 2 facecloths in that small

area of my back and immediately pumped me with Morphine. I was also asked if

I had taken my panic meds for the morning. I said no cause it said no meds

prior on the paper. I am used to waiting til later with the scope. Well,

guess who was going into panic just from the pain??? Yep, the guy putting me

out gave me an IV version of those meds to calm me down. He kept me fully

doped to ease the back pain and then I don't even remember being put under.

Just before he brought me awake he gave me some type of pain med which can be

given every couple minutes. It is fast acting but also fast leaving. I used

my entire syringe up and then just before I went home they shot me full of

pure codeine and something like dramamine so I wouldn't throw up. This was

the 1st time I did not throw up after being put out. I have had so many

surgeries that I have lost track and each time I have thrown up badly.

This proceedure also caused my fibro to get worse which I was anticipating.

We all know that something as simple as weather can make us hurt more. At

least I have a good team of Drs who all work together.

Now, as for sending funny sayings or stories to me it is most times

refreshing. Altho, when being bombarded with a lot of medical stuff can be

intimidating to me. If there is gonna be a war over this then I won't be

able to read my mail from the list til it stops. I cannot allow myself to

get upset or I am the one who pays - not the one sending all the information.

Does this person have fibro? or is it just another trying to spread info

which they benefit from? Those are the questions I have.

Angel Hugs+Love

aka Spark

January 24, 2001

I can't believe this either - that there is so much anger and hostility toward

someone who made a simple statement. And no, people who make statements such as

this are not necessarily suffering, nor hostile, nor mean, nor should they be

denigrated to the extent I have seen here. Yes, what is the matter with people

on this list?

Sure, everyone likes jokes. I like jokes - I also have limited time to go

through my mail and I get the same jokes over and over again. (It's also a

question of bandwidth, and download time.) So I delete delete delete. Someone

said that if we can't post anything besides fibro stuff we must not have any

life at all: this is contrary to the stated intent of the email list, which is

designated for a purpose. There are lists to post anything you want, lists to

post jokes (of course, everyone's posting the same ones), lists to do anything

you want. The fact is, I DO have a life, which is why I don't need to come here

for jokes. If I want entertainment, I go where I know entertainment is. People

sign up here for fibro information, but it's up to the list owner to establish

what the rules are for any list.

This may be hard to believe, but not everyone finds the same things funny. There

are universal jokes, but most jokes are not universally funny.

Sure, I just delete what I don't want, which is why I don't know what the jokes

were about. And because I wrote this, will people scream at me for being such a

sourpuss, for being angry, and will everyone assume I'm not a happy person? That

there must be something intrinsically wrong with me to be so fundamentally evil?

That's too bad, really too bad. I could tell you I don't wallow in my own pain,

but would you believe it anyway? I could tell you I'm not crabby, but since you

don't know me you'd probably insist on your version no matter what I said. We

should be careful how we judge people online - just because we can't see the

people we're talking to and about, doesn't mean we shouldn't watch what we say.

The person who made the comment was commenting on the actions of someone, yet

the responses were directed at her, not at her comment.