Re: Carol - thyroid and receptors

[Guest guest]

HI . Is that kind of like malabsorption problems? I've never heard of

that before, even on my thyroid group. One of the gals just thought I didn't

have the right mix of hormones and needed more testosterone. HA! I agree with

tweaking till we get it right but I should have noticed something. Armour,

cortef, DHEA, Pregnenolone, a good multi vitamin, CoQ10, natural hormones were

just some of the things I was on. At one point my regular doctor (not the top

doc) tested my aminos (a blood test) and put me on powdered amino acids mixed

JUST for me based on the results. $90 a month. I gave it up after a couple of

months out of frustration. Thanks for the suggestions anyways. Carol B

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[Guest guest]

I do remember something about thyroid hormone resistance where you need more

than the normal dose to correct it. But 6 grains? Most of this top docs

patients were on 4-6 grains. I still wonder if I should have gone up to 10. I

just figured it had to be something else. My FT3 was THROUGH the roof on that

dose and my TSH was INCREDIBLY low. Lower than the top doc pushes it I believe.

Carol B

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[Guest guest]

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> HI . Is that kind of like malabsorption problems? I've

never heard of that before, even on my thyroid group. One of the gals

just thought I didn't have the right mix of hormones and needed more

testosterone. HA! I agree with tweaking till we get it right but I

should have noticed something. Armour, cortef, DHEA, Pregnenolone, a

good multi vitamin, CoQ10, natural hormones were just some of the

things I was on. At one point my regular doctor (not the top doc)

tested my aminos (a blood test) and put me on powdered amino acids

mixed JUST for me based on the results. $90 a month. I gave it up

after a couple of months out of frustration. Thanks for the

suggestions anyways. Carol B

Carol,

It's not related to malabsorption, and I should keep my

mouth shut when I can't explain something, shouldn't I.

I guess I was just thinking out loud.

I know, I've heard that too, about people taking a whole bunch of

hormones and needing to find just the right mix - could take

forever and who knows if you'd ever get just the right mix?

Hopefully the salt/C will work for you.

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[Guest guest]

> I do remember something about thyroid hormone resistance where you need

more than the normal dose to correct it. But 6 grains? Most of this top

docs patients were on 4-6 grains. I still wonder if I should have gone up

to 10. I just figured it had to be something else. My FT3 was THROUGH the

roof on that dose and my TSH was INCREDIBLY low. Lower than the top doc

pushes it I believe. Carol B

There are various kind of thyroid hormone resistance. In most cases, it's

rather like the way insulin resistance works. In those cases, the receptor

that that is supposed to pick up the T3 and transport it across the cell

membrance is not working as effectively as it should, and higher doses of

thyroid hormone or cortisol or certain minerals will help increase the T3

transport and alleviate the hypothyroid condition.

In other cases, which are rare and have a far less favorable prognosis,

there is a genetic abnormality. There are several different types of

thyroid receptors, and if one or more of the thyroid receptors are missing

or barely working at all, the T3 just can't get into the cell. With your

history of illness since birth, perhaps you are one of those people. If

you were, additional supplementation with dessicated thyroid could give you

very high levels of serum T3, but if it doesn't get into your cells, it's

never made available to your mitochondria to be converted to energy, and you

would still have hypothyroid symptoms despite the high T3. Since the T3

never gets metabolized and remains at high levels in your blood, your

pituitary thinks you have plenty of thyroid and never asks the thyroid to

produce anything (thus the low TSH).

If you didn't have the history of being ill since birth, I would suspect

that mercury might have messed up your thyroid receptors, with the same end

result.

There was a discussion this spring on the yahoo group Natural Thyroid

Hormones about the genetic kind of thyroid hormone resistance. seems

to have this condition, and he posted some great links to get more

information and read published research studies. I remember reading some

case studies that I found quite interesting. I kept a lot of 's posts,

so if you're interested in more information, email me and I'll send you what

I have.

One of the research studies found that some patients with genetic thyroid

resistance could be helped by a special form of thyroid (not levothyroxine

or dessicated thyroid). It's not totally hopeless.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Hopefully the salt/C will work for you.

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Thanks . The SALT/C is DEFINATELY doing something and I plan to

stick with it. However, I'm back to thinking about adding DMSA to the mix.

We'll see. Maybe after the first of the year. It's all this discussion of

things related to mercury that I have. LOL Carol B

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[Guest guest]

" recent pole " => recent poll.

and any day now the spell-check function will peek through the brain fog.

ah, well...

before Armour I was lucky to retrieve a word with the same first letter! LOL

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> I ordered mine. I self treat, up to 4.5 gr Armour and 8 pellets

> of Isocort/day.

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> Hope this helps,

> ...

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[Guest guest]

Are we talking BRAIN FOG? Ask my family HOW MANY times they've had to finish a

sentence for me because the word just ISN'T there. Since 96 to be exact. LOL

Carol B

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[Guest guest]

Hi! Carol-

What *kinds* of adrenal support have you actually tried? Isocort? Cortef?

Prednisolone? Prednisone? Hydrocortisone? or?

....

>

> I do remember something about thyroid hormone resistance where you need

> more than the normal dose to correct it. But 6 grains? Most of this top

> docs patients were on 4-6 grains. I still wonder if I should have gone up

> to 10. I just figured it had to be something else. My FT3 was THROUGH the

> roof on that dose and my TSH was INCREDIBLY low. Lower than the top doc

> pushes it I believe. Carol B

>

[Guest guest]

oh, yeah! that sudden, drastic, memory loss would be even more frightening

IF the Armour and adrenal support (for me Isocort) didn't help

immediately... I was really terrified for a while, because, like you it hit

suddenly and hard. ...

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Date: Dec 14, 2005 8:45 AM

Subject: Re: Carol - thyroid and receptors

To: frequent-dose-chelation

Are we talking BRAIN FOG? Ask my family HOW MANY times they've had to

finish a sentence for me because the word just ISN'T there. Since 96 to be

exact. LOL Carol B