Re: Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative Medicine

[Guest guest]

I would like to know more about this process. Is anyone else on this list

aware of the process?

Marilyn

----------

>From: msoeffker@...

>To: shydrageregroups

>Subject: Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative Medicine

>Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2000, 6:35 PM

>

>Al,74 was diagnosed with shydrager- MSA in 1996. In Aug- Sept, 1999,

>he was dying. Incontinence , both bladder and bowel, rigidity,

>drooling, iris atrophy, very low blood pressure, could not rise from

>chair-or get on or off bed unaided. I decided I had to look at

>Alternative Medicine. After two weeks I found it in an amazing

>woman, Colet Lahoz B,S.N., RN.,MS., L.Ac. She owns and operates two

>clinics in St. , Minnesota. East-West clinics, Web site;

>www.mm.com/eastwest, E-mail:eastwest@.... Sept. I took Al to her

>Clinic, when I told her that he had Multiple System Atrophy , She

>said, " I can help " . She told me of her plan of treatment.

>Acupuncture, twice a week, Cleansings and Herbs.(her book on

>Cleansings should be available at your library , Conquering Yeast

>Infections, is helpful.) She explained to me that , " If one part of

>the body is sick, the whole body is sick. " SHE USED 60 -90 NEEDLES

>EVERY TREATMENT. At the first treatment Colet and I had great

>difficulty getting Al on the acupuncture table. But, after the first

>treatment Al rose from an armless chair unaided. To say that I was

>shocked is to put it mildly!! After 4 treatments the incontinence was

>reversed. drooling under control after two, after six he knelt down

>and got up by himself, she raised his blood pressure to 117-78 ,

>which is stable to this day. After 4 months with Colet , she said

>that she felt we that we could go to Florida. She had loosened the

>muscles in his body and that our daily one hour workout sessions

>would be beneficial. During the four months of treatment Colet

>suggested that we could cut back on treatments. However, I was

>uncomfortable doing this because he was doing so well and I was

>concerned about reversal of his great progress. In October,2000 I

>asked that a Doctor , at our VA Medical Center in Minneapolis, see

>Al (who at that time was in reversal for 13 months. Eventually we

>did see this Doctor, he confirmed that ,yes, Al did have MSA. He

>listened to my story and DID NOT PASS OUT AT THE MENTION OF

>ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE. Instead he asked , " would you, could you

>travel. " I said yes. He has requested that Doctor Mark Hallet at

>NINDS see Al. Als Case History has been submitted for

>publication in the Townsend Report by Colet. It will soon be on the

>Web, and I also have it. Our only major problem at this time is

>very, very troublesome hallucinations which started in 1996, three

>weeks after being put on Levadopa/Carbidopa and Fludrocortisone. He

>has been off these Meds for 15 months. My fax # is ,

>should anyone like to correspond. ( our summer fax is ) I

>will be out of state app. 3 weeks starting Dec.22. I wanted to let

>you know our wonderful story.

>

>

>Marge & Al Soeffker

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am interested also in this alternative treatment. I tried to e-mail, but

my mail was rejected and then tried to go to web-site, but it was

unavailable.

Jeanie

>

>Reply-To: shydrageregroups

>To: shydrageregroups

>Subject: Re: Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative

>Medicine

>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:24:04 -0500

>

>I would like to know more about this process. Is anyone else on this list

>aware of the process?

>Marilyn

>----------

> >From: msoeffker@...

> >To: shydrageregroups

> >Subject: Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative

>Medicine

> >Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2000, 6:35 PM

> >

>

> >Al,74 was diagnosed with shydrager- MSA in 1996. In Aug- Sept, 1999,

> >he was dying. Incontinence , both bladder and bowel, rigidity,

> >drooling, iris atrophy, very low blood pressure, could not rise from

> >chair-or get on or off bed unaided. I decided I had to look at

> >Alternative Medicine. After two weeks I found it in an amazing

> >woman, Colet Lahoz B,S.N., RN.,MS., L.Ac. She owns and operates two

> >clinics in St. , Minnesota. East-West clinics, Web site;

> >www.mm.com/eastwest, E-mail:eastwest@.... Sept. I took Al to her

> >Clinic, when I told her that he had Multiple System Atrophy , She

> >said, " I can help " . She told me of her plan of treatment.

> >Acupuncture, twice a week, Cleansings and Herbs.(her book on

> >Cleansings should be available at your library , Conquering Yeast

> >Infections, is helpful.) She explained to me that , " If one part of

> >the body is sick, the whole body is sick. " SHE USED 60 -90 NEEDLES

> >EVERY TREATMENT. At the first treatment Colet and I had great

> >difficulty getting Al on the acupuncture table. But, after the first

> >treatment Al rose from an armless chair unaided. To say that I was

> >shocked is to put it mildly!! After 4 treatments the incontinence was

> >reversed. drooling under control after two, after six he knelt down

> >and got up by himself, she raised his blood pressure to 117-78 ,

> >which is stable to this day. After 4 months with Colet , she said

> >that she felt we that we could go to Florida. She had loosened the

> >muscles in his body and that our daily one hour workout sessions

> >would be beneficial. During the four months of treatment Colet

> >suggested that we could cut back on treatments. However, I was

> >uncomfortable doing this because he was doing so well and I was

> >concerned about reversal of his great progress. In October,2000 I

> >asked that a Doctor , at our VA Medical Center in Minneapolis, see

> >Al (who at that time was in reversal for 13 months. Eventually we

> >did see this Doctor, he confirmed that ,yes, Al did have MSA. He

> >listened to my story and DID NOT PASS OUT AT THE MENTION OF

> >ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE. Instead he asked , " would you, could you

> >travel. " I said yes. He has requested that Doctor Mark Hallet at

> >NINDS see Al. Als Case History has been submitted for

> >publication in the Townsend Report by Colet. It will soon be on the

> >Web, and I also have it. Our only major problem at this time is

> >very, very troublesome hallucinations which started in 1996, three

> >weeks after being put on Levadopa/Carbidopa and Fludrocortisone. He

> >has been off these Meds for 15 months. My fax # is ,

> >should anyone like to correspond. ( our summer fax is ) I

> >will be out of state app. 3 weeks starting Dec.22. I wanted to let

> >you know our wonderful story.

> >

> >

> >Marge & Al Soeffker

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The link given doesn't work so I went searching and found this one:

http://www.eastwest-mn.com/East-West_Clinic.html

I'd be interested to hear what Dr. Hallett at NIH thinks about the

acupuncture treatment's effects on blood pressure especially. Seems to me

I've heard of others trying it before but never with these results.

Hugs,

Pam

Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative

Medicine

> >Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2000, 6:35 PM

> >

>

> >Al,74 was diagnosed with shydrager- MSA in 1996. In Aug- Sept, 1999,

> >he was dying. Incontinence , both bladder and bowel, rigidity,

> >drooling, iris atrophy, very low blood pressure, could not rise from

> >chair-or get on or off bed unaided. I decided I had to look at

> >Alternative Medicine. After two weeks I found it in an amazing

> >woman, Colet Lahoz B,S.N., RN.,MS., L.Ac. She owns and operates two

> >clinics in St. , Minnesota. East-West clinics, Web site;

> >www.mm.com/eastwest, E-mail:eastwest@.... Sept. I took Al to her

> >Clinic, when I told her that he had Multiple System Atrophy , She

> >said, " I can help " . She told me of her plan of treatment.

> >Acupuncture, twice a week, Cleansings and Herbs.(her book on

> >Cleansings should be available at your library , Conquering Yeast

> >Infections, is helpful.) She explained to me that , " If one part of

> >the body is sick, the whole body is sick. " SHE USED 60 -90 NEEDLES

> >EVERY TREATMENT. At the first treatment Colet and I had great

> >difficulty getting Al on the acupuncture table. But, after the first

> >treatment Al rose from an armless chair unaided. To say that I was

> >shocked is to put it mildly!! After 4 treatments the incontinence was

> >reversed. drooling under control after two, after six he knelt down

> >and got up by himself, she raised his blood pressure to 117-78 ,

> >which is stable to this day. After 4 months with Colet , she said

> >that she felt we that we could go to Florida. She had loosened the

> >muscles in his body and that our daily one hour workout sessions

> >would be beneficial. During the four months of treatment Colet

> >suggested that we could cut back on treatments. However, I was

> >uncomfortable doing this because he was doing so well and I was

> >concerned about reversal of his great progress. In October,2000 I

> >asked that a Doctor , at our VA Medical Center in Minneapolis, see

> >Al (who at that time was in reversal for 13 months. Eventually we

> >did see this Doctor, he confirmed that ,yes, Al did have MSA. He

> >listened to my story and DID NOT PASS OUT AT THE MENTION OF

> >ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE. Instead he asked , " would you, could you

> >travel. " I said yes. He has requested that Doctor Mark Hallet at

> >NINDS see Al. Als Case History has been submitted for

> >publication in the Townsend Report by Colet. It will soon be on the

> >Web, and I also have it. Our only major problem at this time is

> >very, very troublesome hallucinations which started in 1996, three

> >weeks after being put on Levadopa/Carbidopa and Fludrocortisone. He

> >has been off these Meds for 15 months. My fax # is ,

> >should anyone like to correspond. ( our summer fax is ) I

> >will be out of state app. 3 weeks starting Dec.22. I wanted to let

> >you know our wonderful story.

> >

> >

> >Marge & Al Soeffker

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Marge & Al,

Your story surely is appealing. Do you know of anybody near Indianapolis,

IN who has the skills of

Colet Lahoz?

Dawn - Celeste O'Neill's sister

Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative

Medicine

> Al,74 was diagnosed with shydrager- MSA in 1996. In Aug- Sept, 1999,

> he was dying. Incontinence , both bladder and bowel, rigidity,

> drooling, iris atrophy, very low blood pressure, could not rise from

> chair-or get on or off bed unaided. I decided I had to look at

> Alternative Medicine. After two weeks I found it in an amazing

> woman, Colet Lahoz B,S.N., RN.,MS., L.Ac. She owns and operates two

> clinics in St. , Minnesota. East-West clinics, Web site;

> www.mm.com/eastwest, E-mail:eastwest@.... Sept. I took Al to her

> Clinic, when I told her that he had Multiple System Atrophy , She

> said, " I can help " . She told me of her plan of treatment.

> Acupuncture, twice a week, Cleansings and Herbs.(her book on

> Cleansings should be available at your library , Conquering Yeast

> Infections, is helpful.) She explained to me that , " If one part of

> the body is sick, the whole body is sick. " SHE USED 60 -90 NEEDLES

> EVERY TREATMENT. At the first treatment Colet and I had great

> difficulty getting Al on the acupuncture table. But, after the first

> treatment Al rose from an armless chair unaided. To say that I was

> shocked is to put it mildly!! After 4 treatments the incontinence was

> reversed. drooling under control after two, after six he knelt down

> and got up by himself, she raised his blood pressure to 117-78 ,

> which is stable to this day. After 4 months with Colet , she said

> that she felt we that we could go to Florida. She had loosened the

> muscles in his body and that our daily one hour workout sessions

> would be beneficial. During the four months of treatment Colet

> suggested that we could cut back on treatments. However, I was

> uncomfortable doing this because he was doing so well and I was

> concerned about reversal of his great progress. In October,2000 I

> asked that a Doctor , at our VA Medical Center in Minneapolis, see

> Al (who at that time was in reversal for 13 months. Eventually we

> did see this Doctor, he confirmed that ,yes, Al did have MSA. He

> listened to my story and DID NOT PASS OUT AT THE MENTION OF

> ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE. Instead he asked , " would you, could you

> travel. " I said yes. He has requested that Doctor Mark Hallet at

> NINDS see Al. Als Case History has been submitted for

> publication in the Townsend Report by Colet. It will soon be on the

> Web, and I also have it. Our only major problem at this time is

> very, very troublesome hallucinations which started in 1996, three

> weeks after being put on Levadopa/Carbidopa and Fludrocortisone. He

> has been off these Meds for 15 months. My fax # is ,

> should anyone like to correspond. ( our summer fax is ) I

> will be out of state app. 3 weeks starting Dec.22. I wanted to let

> you know our wonderful story.

>

>

> Marge & Al Soeffker

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

Remember that not everyone on the internet is truthful. There are several

people

claiming to be able to help you with things like water therapy - which we have

already told you will help (get 6-8 cups a day depending on your weight). You

also

know that your husband should get range of motion exercise every day.

When someone claims a human went from no movement to full movement in one

session

by sticking 60-90 needles in them - to me that means one of two things:

1. the person was not sick to begin with and it was only in their mind, or

the

person was dehydrated and got relief from a lot of water (possibly boullion),

which

we know will raise the BP and allow you to walk better.

2. It's a con. You notice she said that the man went (after the treatment)

and

got the dx of MSA. That's bull - you only get a dx of MSA from your symptoms,

therefore if you have no symptoms, how do you get a dx of MSA. There is no

magic

test for MSA either, it often takes up to five years to diagnose.

If things like this actually worked we would all be on our way. Last year there

was one about a doctor in south Chicago, who had " letter's " from an astronaut

saying the man had healed him. If you called the doctor who had written the

letter's - he was no longer listed in the phone book.

You CAN NOT believe everything you read on the internet and especially in email

-

remember the little girl missing a few days ago. People had even changed the

date

from Oct, 1999 to Oct, 2000. Always remember to check things out that we tell

you

with your doctor, or at least several of us. When you see the same answer from

a

couple of people here on the list, you can be somewhat sure it has worked for

us.

We have seen a couple of people who have tried acupuncture say it worked

somewhat

for pain, but I have never seen where they got up and walked after one visit.

We had a man here who promised a herbal cure for cancer and had hundreds of

patients getting shots of aloe verde into their veins. Evidently it gives you a

temporary high and makes you feel better, UNTIL it kills you. He even had a

doctor's license, which has been removed after he killed two people in a short

period of time in his office. But he was getting them for big bucks for each

" treatment " . Beware too, as they often have a " come on " price which is very low

($50 or so) then the next " treatment is $1000 or more. The last patient that

went

to the doctor here had evidently paid him over $30,000 for " treatments " over a

two

year period (and still had cancer).

Stick to a movement disorder specialist and the medical doctor you have known

for

years with a license. Ask them about miracle cures. Also know exactly what

" herbs

and natural substances " they are using, as some herbs and natural substances can

harm a well person and kill a MSA patient.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

----------------------------------------------------------------

and Marilyn wrote:

> I would like to know more about this process. Is anyone else on this list

> aware of the process?

> Marilyn

> ----------

> >From: msoeffker@...

> >To: shydrageregroups

> >Subject: Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative

Medicine

> >Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2000, 6:35 PM

> >

>

> >Al,74 was diagnosed with shydrager- MSA in 1996. In Aug- Sept, 1999,

> >he was dying. Incontinence , both bladder and bowel, rigidity,

> >drooling, iris atrophy, very low blood pressure, could not rise from

> >chair-or get on or off bed unaided. I decided I had to look at

> >Alternative Medicine. After two weeks I found it in an amazing

> >woman, Colet Lahoz B,S.N., RN.,MS., L.Ac. She owns and operates two

> >clinics in St. , Minnesota. East-West clinics, Web site;

> >www.mm.com/eastwest, E-mail:eastwest@.... Sept. I took Al to her

> >Clinic, when I told her that he had Multiple System Atrophy , She

> >said, " I can help " . She told me of her plan of treatment.

> >Acupuncture, twice a week, Cleansings and Herbs.(her book on

> >Cleansings should be available at your library , Conquering Yeast

> >Infections, is helpful.) She explained to me that , " If one part of

> >the body is sick, the whole body is sick. " SHE USED 60 -90 NEEDLES

> >EVERY TREATMENT. At the first treatment Colet and I had great

> >difficulty getting Al on the acupuncture table. But, after the first

> >treatment Al rose from an armless chair unaided. To say that I was

> >shocked is to put it mildly!! After 4 treatments the incontinence was

> >reversed. drooling under control after two, after six he knelt down

> >and got up by himself, she raised his blood pressure to 117-78 ,

> >which is stable to this day. After 4 months with Colet , she said

> >that she felt we that we could go to Florida. She had loosened the

> >muscles in his body and that our daily one hour workout sessions

> >would be beneficial. During the four months of treatment Colet

> >suggested that we could cut back on treatments. However, I was

> >uncomfortable doing this because he was doing so well and I was

> >concerned about reversal of his great progress. In October,2000 I

> >asked that a Doctor , at our VA Medical Center in Minneapolis, see

> >Al (who at that time was in reversal for 13 months. Eventually we

> >did see this Doctor, he confirmed that ,yes, Al did have MSA. He

> >listened to my story and DID NOT PASS OUT AT THE MENTION OF

> >ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE. Instead he asked , " would you, could you

> >travel. " I said yes. He has requested that Doctor Mark Hallet at

> >NINDS see Al. Als Case History has been submitted for

> >publication in the Townsend Report by Colet. It will soon be on the

> >Web, and I also have it. Our only major problem at this time is

> >very, very troublesome hallucinations which started in 1996, three

> >weeks after being put on Levadopa/Carbidopa and Fludrocortisone. He

> >has been off these Meds for 15 months. My fax # is ,

> >should anyone like to correspond. ( our summer fax is ) I

> >will be out of state app. 3 weeks starting Dec.22. I wanted to let

> >you know our wonderful story.

> >

> >

> >Marge & Al Soeffker

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Bill and Charlotte, What are range of motion exercises. My husband was told to do Tai chi, which he does once a week for 1 1/2 hours, also he goes to the gym 4 times a week and walks the tread mill for about 20 min, rides the stationary bike for 15min. and does some weight lifting (5LBS). Does this sound suffiecient. His biggest problem is his balance, and lightheadedness on standing. Basically he`s trying to build strenght and endurence. Thanks

[Guest guest]

GFKN,

I'm sure Tai chi incorporates range of motion exercise. I have

seen articles on Parkinson's and Tai chi helping there, so it is also good

for MSA. Basically, range of motion exercises are the one's used

to loosen atheletes up and stretch before they participate in sports.

They are also used for arthritis patients.

It sounds as if he is doing great right now. The problem comes

if he can not stand or walk at a later date. Then he will have to

adapt to the loss of balance or low blood pressure (lightheadedless) if

he gets them. If he has a loss of balance, he should use a wheelchair

to prevent falling and still have movement. Many of the exercises

can be done while in a wheelchair.

At that point, he will have to exercise just to maintain movement.

MSA wants to draw the body up into the fetal position, so you have to stretch

your muscles daily to keep movement. The same holds true with speech

and swallowing. There are a list of exercises for speech on the Links

portion of the egroups webpage (I think). Now, while he has movement

is the time to start working on those exercises also. It is important

to work on volume and breathing as well as making the distinct sounds.

All of this can help you maintain years of movement and speech. I

have seen estimates of two additional years or more by doing this daily.

Hope this helps.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

-------------------------------------------------------

GFKN3790@... wrote:

Bill and

Charlotte, What are range of motion exercises. My husband

was

told to do Tai chi, which

he does once a week for 1 1/2 hours, also he goes

to the gym 4 times a week

and walks the tread mill for about 20 min, rides

the stationary bike for

15min. and does some weight lifting (5LBS). Does

this sound suffiecient.

His biggest problem is his balance, and

lightheadedness on standing.

Basically he`s trying to build strenght and

endurence. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Greetings GFKN and Bill !

One caveat to Bill's note:

> I'm sure Tai chi incorporates range of motion exercise.

> I have seen articles on Parkinson's and Tai chi helping

> there, so it is also good for MSA.

Unfortunately, I discovered that if you have the OPCA form of MSA, Tai Chi

is too difficult for me. You might ask the instructor if you can audit a

course before paying for the full course. Fortunately for me the course was

offered by our local town, so the price was lower than normal. But DO try.

It is very graceful and peaceful.

I could do each of the figures ... sort of ... but putting the pieces

together was beyond me. It shouldn't be surprising since I now find doing

too many things at once is much harder than two years ago. Oh well, let's

me focus better.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

[Guest guest]

I could not agree with you more. I have two sons who have some involvement

in the medical profession. They remind me daily that you should take much

of what you read on the internet with a grain of salt.

Even so, I am like everyone else who is looking for a way to relieve this

burden.

Marilyn

----------

>

>To: shydrageregroups

>Subject: Re: Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative

Medicine

>Date: Tue, Dec 19, 2000, 10:33 AM

>

>Marilyn,

>

>Remember that not everyone on the internet is truthful. There are several

people

>claiming to be able to help you with things like water therapy - which we have

>already told you will help (get 6-8 cups a day depending on your weight). You

also

>know that your husband should get range of motion exercise every day.

>

>When someone claims a human went from no movement to full movement in one

session

>by sticking 60-90 needles in them - to me that means one of two things:

>

>1. the person was not sick to begin with and it was only in their mind, or

the

>person was dehydrated and got relief from a lot of water (possibly boullion),

which

>we know will raise the BP and allow you to walk better.

>

>2. It's a con. You notice she said that the man went (after the treatment)

and

>got the dx of MSA. That's bull - you only get a dx of MSA from your symptoms,

>therefore if you have no symptoms, how do you get a dx of MSA. There is no

magic

>test for MSA either, it often takes up to five years to diagnose.

>

>If things like this actually worked we would all be on our way. Last year

there

>was one about a doctor in south Chicago, who had " letter's " from an astronaut

>saying the man had healed him. If you called the doctor who had written the

>letter's - he was no longer listed in the phone book.

>

>You CAN NOT believe everything you read on the internet and especially in email

-

>remember the little girl missing a few days ago. People had even changed the

date

>from Oct, 1999 to Oct, 2000. Always remember to check things out that we tell

you

>with your doctor, or at least several of us. When you see the same answer from

a

>couple of people here on the list, you can be somewhat sure it has worked for

us.

>We have seen a couple of people who have tried acupuncture say it worked

somewhat

>for pain, but I have never seen where they got up and walked after one visit.

>

>We had a man here who promised a herbal cure for cancer and had hundreds of

>patients getting shots of aloe verde into their veins. Evidently it gives you

a

>temporary high and makes you feel better, UNTIL it kills you. He even had a

>doctor's license, which has been removed after he killed two people in a short

>period of time in his office. But he was getting them for big bucks for each

> " treatment " . Beware too, as they often have a " come on " price which is very

low

>($50 or so) then the next " treatment is $1000 or more. The last patient that

went

>to the doctor here had evidently paid him over $30,000 for " treatments " over a

two

>year period (and still had cancer).

>

>Stick to a movement disorder specialist and the medical doctor you have known

for

>years with a license. Ask them about miracle cures. Also know exactly what

" herbs

>and natural substances " they are using, as some herbs and natural substances

can

>harm a well person and kill a MSA patient.

>

>Take care, Bill and Charlotte

>----------------------------------------------------------------

>

> and Marilyn wrote:

>

>> I would like to know more about this process. Is anyone else on this list

>> aware of the process?

>> Marilyn

>> ----------

>> >From: msoeffker@...

>> >To: shydrageregroups

>> >Subject: Reversal of Shydrager- MSA for 15 months- Alternative

Medicine

>> >Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2000, 6:35 PM

>> >

>>

>> >Al,74 was diagnosed with shydrager- MSA in 1996. In Aug- Sept, 1999,

>> >he was dying. Incontinence , both bladder and bowel, rigidity,

>> >drooling, iris atrophy, very low blood pressure, could not rise from

>> >chair-or get on or off bed unaided. I decided I had to look at

>> >Alternative Medicine. After two weeks I found it in an amazing

>> >woman, Colet Lahoz B,S.N., RN.,MS., L.Ac. She owns and operates two

>> >clinics in St. , Minnesota. East-West clinics, Web site;

>> >www.mm.com/eastwest, E-mail:eastwest@.... Sept. I took Al to her

>> >Clinic, when I told her that he had Multiple System Atrophy , She

>> >said, " I can help " . She told me of her plan of treatment.

>> >Acupuncture, twice a week, Cleansings and Herbs.(her book on

>> >Cleansings should be available at your library , Conquering Yeast

>> >Infections, is helpful.) She explained to me that , " If one part of

>> >the body is sick, the whole body is sick. " SHE USED 60 -90 NEEDLES

>> >EVERY TREATMENT. At the first treatment Colet and I had great

>> >difficulty getting Al on the acupuncture table. But, after the first

>> >treatment Al rose from an armless chair unaided. To say that I was

>> >shocked is to put it mildly!! After 4 treatments the incontinence was

>> >reversed. drooling under control after two, after six he knelt down

>> >and got up by himself, she raised his blood pressure to 117-78 ,

>> >which is stable to this day. After 4 months with Colet , she said

>> >that she felt we that we could go to Florida. She had loosened the

>> >muscles in his body and that our daily one hour workout sessions

>> >would be beneficial. During the four months of treatment Colet

>> >suggested that we could cut back on treatments. However, I was

>> >uncomfortable doing this because he was doing so well and I was

>> >concerned about reversal of his great progress. In October,2000 I

>> >asked that a Doctor , at our VA Medical Center in Minneapolis, see

>> >Al (who at that time was in reversal for 13 months. Eventually we

>> >did see this Doctor, he confirmed that ,yes, Al did have MSA. He

>> >listened to my story and DID NOT PASS OUT AT THE MENTION OF

>> >ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE. Instead he asked , " would you, could you

>> >travel. " I said yes. He has requested that Doctor Mark Hallet at

>> >NINDS see Al. Als Case History has been submitted for

>> >publication in the Townsend Report by Colet. It will soon be on the

>> >Web, and I also have it. Our only major problem at this time is

>> >very, very troublesome hallucinations which started in 1996, three

>> >weeks after being put on Levadopa/Carbidopa and Fludrocortisone. He

>> >has been off these Meds for 15 months. My fax # is ,

>> >should anyone like to correspond. ( our summer fax is ) I

>> >will be out of state app. 3 weeks starting Dec.22. I wanted to let

>> >you know our wonderful story.

>> >

>> >

>> >Marge & Al Soeffker

>> >

>> >

>> >

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