Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 You are not asking for a " pity party " you have alot on your plate right now.. My prayers are with you and your family to get thru this rough time.. Hope all is well and God Bless terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Hi Petra, I just wanted to know that we are all here to listen. I know you will make it through the next couple of days. My husband went away for several days too, although I only have one child living with us, so it is not like you in that respect, but I did miss him and realized how much I depend upon him and also how much I appreciate what he does for me. How old are your children, maybe they can understand that you need their cooperation now in helping out when daddy is gone? Take care! I will keep you in my prayers. Sending Comfort and Peace Janice " I wish we could change our dials to AM instead of FM!!! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Hey Debbie, When is the wedding??? Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Terri, If that message was meant for me, thank you. I feel like I'm in a whirlwind. Bought the dress, the cake, the topper to the cake, the guest book, the bride/groom glasses, have paid for the reception hall, will be paying for a band for the reception and am pricing flowers. In other words....Christmas???? What's that?? Debbie G. Re: Need some support > You are not asking for a " pity party " you have alot on your plate right now.. > My prayers are with you and your family to get thru this rough time.. Hope > all is well and God Bless > terri > > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Terri, December 22nd....I was just told about this about 4-5 days ago...FUN HUH??? Debbie G. Re: Need some support > Hey Debbie, > When is the wedding??? > Terri > > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Hi Petra, See you survived at least the first day.. I have absolutely no support system so be grateful your hubby is there for you.. Please keep everyone posted as far as your mother in law as well as if you need to vent ok.. God Bless Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Petra, Don't be so hard on yourself. Everyone is entitled to a pity party once in a while. Heck I still go through them on occassion. You just need to take it one day at a time. Don't think of it as having to deal with 3 kids by yourself for a few days.....deal with it one day at a time. If one day you are feeling better than another day, take the kids to Mcs or go look at Xmas lights with them. Ont he days when the pain is too much, plan an indoor activity that will keep them entertained. Or call up one of your friends or a family member and ask them to come over and stay with you for a couple of days to make it easier on you. I am really sorry to hear about your mother-in-law and I will say a prayer for her as well as you and your family. If there is anything else I can do for you, or if you just need to talk....I will check my e-mail later and get back to you. I really am a good listener if you just need to vent also. Hang in there and remember....you're not alone in this....you have all of us now. Debbie G. Need some support > Hi All, > > I haven't exactly been busy on this list. But I'm in tears right now. My > mother in law is in the hospital, possibly dying. She has lung cancer that > has spread to her brain and now has pneumonia in the other lung. Yesterday > things were very bad, today they're slightly better. > My husband is about to go visit her, leaving tomorrow returning on Friday. > I feel so selfish, because I don't know how I'll cope. I've been sooooooo > exhausted all day with the kids. I'm trying everything to keep going, but > I'm in the midst of a flare up and it's just so daunting, the prospect of > taking care of the 3 of them for 4 days! > Sorry for the pity party, but I sometimes just don't know if I'll be able to > do it! > > > Petra (mailto:Petra@...) > Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec > '95) > Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page > (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) > ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other > way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Thanks, Terri. Day one is over and I'm still alive, LOL. The hardest part is always before he leaves, because I've had some really bad days while he was gone before and I don't have a lot (read any) support besides him. My MIL is still critical, but seemed ever so slightly better today, according to my husband. Petra (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > You are not asking for a " pity party " you have alot on your > plate right now.. > My prayers are with you and your family to get thru this > rough time.. Hope > all is well and God Bless > terri > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your business, > and to sell your products and services. Try Bigstep.com now. > http://click./1/9183/2/_/442796/_/975419158/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Hi Janice, My kids are 10, 8 and 4 and overall great kids. I usually find that I'm the one with the short fuse, when I'm in pain I can handle so very little. But they're really sweet and helpful. For me, the hard part is realizing that I can't do it all and that it's not necessary to do it all. No one will die when we eat out every night he's gone, neither do I have to clean the house and no chore has to be done then and there. It's hard to realize that, I'm just so programmed to " be a good housewife " . But slowly I'm managing. Thanks for your kind words. Petra (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > Hi Petra, > > I just wanted to know that we are all here to listen. I know > you will make it > through the next couple of days. > > My husband went away for several days too, although I only > have one child > living with us, so it is not like you in that respect, but I > did miss him and > realized how much I depend upon him and also how much I > appreciate what he > does for me. > > How old are your children, maybe they can understand that you > need their > cooperation now in helping out when daddy is gone? Take care! > > I will keep you in my prayers. > > Sending Comfort and Peace > Janice > > " I wish we could change our dials to AM instead of FM!!! " > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975421027/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Hi Debbie, So, if they tell you the etiquette, then is it not up to you how elaborate it all should be? Why not have a simple wedding then, and if they want more, they'll have to contribute. Petra (I know sounds easier than it is, been there done that with the nice in-laws, though mine have shaped up over the years) (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > Terri, > December 22nd....I was just told about this about 4-5 > days ago...FUN > HUH??? > Debbie G. > Re: Need some support > > > > Hey Debbie, > > When is the wedding??? > > Terri > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975446839/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Petra, I agree, however my daughter has dreams of her own. She already had to give up her wedding on the beach in the summertime to make things easier for her fiancee's parents, so I want to make her wedding as nice as I can. Debbie G. Re: Need some support > > > > > > > Hey Debbie, > > > When is the wedding??? > > > Terri > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > MON Night > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > -------------------------~-~> > > eGroups eLerts > > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975446839/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------> > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Petra, I agree, however my daughter has dreams of her own. She already had to give up her wedding on the beach in the summertime to make things easier for her fiancee's parents, so I want to make her wedding as nice as I can. Debbie G. Re: Need some support > > > > > > > Hey Debbie, > > > When is the wedding??? > > > Terri > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > MON Night > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > -------------------------~-~> > > eGroups eLerts > > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975446839/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------> > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Thanks, Debbie. Today went ok. I took the kids out to dinner and just tonight I got all my groceries delivered for just an extra $5!!!! What a great service! My MIL seems a little better too, so I just hope she'll be able to fight off this infection after all. THanks for your kind words! Petra (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > Petra, > Don't be so hard on yourself. Everyone is entitled to a > pity party once > in a while. Heck I still go through them on occassion. You > just need to > take it one day at a time. Don't think of it as having to > deal with 3 kids > by yourself for a few days.....deal with it one day at a > time. If one day > you are feeling better than another day, take the kids to > Mcs or go > look at Xmas lights with them. Ont he days when the pain is > too much, plan > an indoor activity that will keep them entertained. > Or call up one of your friends or a family member and ask > them to come > over and stay with you for a couple of days to make it easier on you. > I am really sorry to hear about your mother-in-law and I > will say a > prayer for her as well as you and your family. > If there is anything else I can do for you, or if you just need to > talk....I will check my e-mail later and get back to you. I > really am a > good listener if you just need to vent also. Hang in there and > remember....you're not alone in this....you have all of us now. > Debbie G. > Need some support > > > > Hi All, > > > > I haven't exactly been busy on this list. But I'm in tears > right now. My > > mother in law is in the hospital, possibly dying. She has > lung cancer > that > > has spread to her brain and now has pneumonia in the other lung. > Yesterday > > things were very bad, today they're slightly better. > > My husband is about to go visit her, leaving tomorrow > returning on Friday. > > I feel so selfish, because I don't know how I'll cope. > I've been sooooooo > > exhausted all day with the kids. I'm trying everything to > keep going, but > > I'm in the midst of a flare up and it's just so daunting, > the prospect of > > taking care of the 3 of them for 4 days! > > Sorry for the pity party, but I sometimes just don't know > if I'll be able > to > > do it! > > > > > > Petra (mailto:Petra@...) > > Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) > and Saskia (11 > Dec > > '95) > > Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our > Sinterklaas page > > (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) > > ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she > needs, not the other > > way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that > Heals " ~*~*~ > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your business, > and to sell your products and services. Try Bigstep.com now. > http://click./1/9183/2/_/442796/_/975448277/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Thanks, Debbie. Today went ok. I took the kids out to dinner and just tonight I got all my groceries delivered for just an extra $5!!!! What a great service! My MIL seems a little better too, so I just hope she'll be able to fight off this infection after all. THanks for your kind words! Petra (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > Petra, > Don't be so hard on yourself. Everyone is entitled to a > pity party once > in a while. Heck I still go through them on occassion. You > just need to > take it one day at a time. Don't think of it as having to > deal with 3 kids > by yourself for a few days.....deal with it one day at a > time. If one day > you are feeling better than another day, take the kids to > Mcs or go > look at Xmas lights with them. Ont he days when the pain is > too much, plan > an indoor activity that will keep them entertained. > Or call up one of your friends or a family member and ask > them to come > over and stay with you for a couple of days to make it easier on you. > I am really sorry to hear about your mother-in-law and I > will say a > prayer for her as well as you and your family. > If there is anything else I can do for you, or if you just need to > talk....I will check my e-mail later and get back to you. I > really am a > good listener if you just need to vent also. Hang in there and > remember....you're not alone in this....you have all of us now. > Debbie G. > Need some support > > > > Hi All, > > > > I haven't exactly been busy on this list. But I'm in tears > right now. My > > mother in law is in the hospital, possibly dying. She has > lung cancer > that > > has spread to her brain and now has pneumonia in the other lung. > Yesterday > > things were very bad, today they're slightly better. > > My husband is about to go visit her, leaving tomorrow > returning on Friday. > > I feel so selfish, because I don't know how I'll cope. > I've been sooooooo > > exhausted all day with the kids. I'm trying everything to > keep going, but > > I'm in the midst of a flare up and it's just so daunting, > the prospect of > > taking care of the 3 of them for 4 days! > > Sorry for the pity party, but I sometimes just don't know > if I'll be able > to > > do it! > > > > > > Petra (mailto:Petra@...) > > Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) > and Saskia (11 > Dec > > '95) > > Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our > Sinterklaas page > > (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) > > ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she > needs, not the other > > way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that > Heals " ~*~*~ > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your business, > and to sell your products and services. Try Bigstep.com now. > http://click./1/9183/2/_/442796/_/975448277/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Oh, I understand, Debbie! You're a great mom for doing so! One advice, the most important thing is a good photographer. Ours bailed 5 weeks before our wedding and we had to settle for a last minute leftover one and we regret it to this day! Petra (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > Petra, > I agree, however my daughter has dreams of her own. She > already had to > give up her wedding on the beach in the summertime to make > things easier for > her fiancee's parents, so I want to make her wedding as nice as I can. > Debbie G. > Re: Need some support > > > > > > > > > > Hey Debbie, > > > > When is the wedding??? > > > > Terri > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > > MON Night > > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > > -------------------------~-~> > > > eGroups eLerts > > > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > > > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975446839/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------> > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > MON Night > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975457951/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Oh, I understand, Debbie! You're a great mom for doing so! One advice, the most important thing is a good photographer. Ours bailed 5 weeks before our wedding and we had to settle for a last minute leftover one and we regret it to this day! Petra (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > Petra, > I agree, however my daughter has dreams of her own. She > already had to > give up her wedding on the beach in the summertime to make > things easier for > her fiancee's parents, so I want to make her wedding as nice as I can. > Debbie G. > Re: Need some support > > > > > > > > > > Hey Debbie, > > > > When is the wedding??? > > > > Terri > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > > MON Night > > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > > -------------------------~-~> > > > eGroups eLerts > > > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > > > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975446839/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------> > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > MON Night > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975457951/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Oh, I understand, Debbie! You're a great mom for doing so! One advice, the most important thing is a good photographer. Ours bailed 5 weeks before our wedding and we had to settle for a last minute leftover one and we regret it to this day! Petra (mailto:Petra@...) Maaammmiiieee!!! to Katja (14 Mar '90), Kai (29 Apr '92) and Saskia (11 Dec '95) Visit us at http://www.kjsl.com/~petra Check out our Sinterklaas page (http://www.kjsl.com/~petra/sint.htm) ~*~*~ " A spoiled child is a child deprived of what she needs, not the other way around " Harville Hendrix/Helen Hunt in " Giving the Love that Heals " ~*~*~ > Re: Need some support > > > Petra, > I agree, however my daughter has dreams of her own. She > already had to > give up her wedding on the beach in the summertime to make > things easier for > her fiancee's parents, so I want to make her wedding as nice as I can. > Debbie G. > Re: Need some support > > > > > > > > > > Hey Debbie, > > > > When is the wedding??? > > > > Terri > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > > MON Night > > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > > -------------------------~-~> > > > eGroups eLerts > > > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > > > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975446839/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------> > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > MON Night > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975457951/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------> > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Dear Petra: I'm thinking about you. I'm glad that you told us what you're dealing with. It must be really difficult. I live alone with three cats and on my bad days its all I can do to take care of myself much less three little ones. I pray that you will have the strength to get through this and also that your mother in law will be in as little discomfort as possible. Just remember to give yourself credit for what you're dealing with, a difficult task for even a totally healthy person. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Petra, Thanks for the advice....as a matter of fact we have been searching for a good one for the last week. I know that isn't very long, but they didn't give me much time.....however, I will be careful on whom I hire. Thanks! Debbie G. Re: Need some support > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Debbie, > > > > > When is the wedding??? > > > > > Terri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > > > MON Night > > > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > > > -------------------------~-~> > > > > eGroups eLerts > > > > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > > > > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975446839/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------> > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > > MON Night > > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > > MON Night > > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > -------------------------~-~> > > eGroups eLerts > > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > > http://click./1/9698/2/_/442796/_/975457951/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------> > > > > List owner Bierman > > > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > > MON Night > > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > > WHERE: /chat/ > > > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > > > TO unsubscribe. > > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List owner Bierman > > Add or view webpage links about Fibromyalgia/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON Night > TIME:Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > To write the list owner: The_List_Owner@... > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Hi Petra, My I am glad that someone else feels all that too. I too do not do to well with the pain and my kids, when I'm in pain I can handle so very little also. It is nice to hear that I am not alone and not so horrible that I am the only one who is like that. It is not nice that we are like that (taking our pain out on others), but it is very comforting to hear someone else has the same life. Thank you for sharing. You wrote: For me, the hard part is realizing that I can't do it all and that it's not necessary to do it all.......It's hard to realize that, I'm just so programmed to " be a good housewife " . That I think says it all, I feel that way so many times. I feel that I am a disappointment to everyone sometimes. I feel that way this week, it is the time of the month and that does a job on my pain, but also I noticed I get really down on myself. I wonder at times if maybe some people are right that it is in our heads, I doubt myself and think boy am I wimpy, I can't even do one or more than one task today, even something simple as the dishes. What kind of person am I? What if I am faking? What if I am making myself be this way? I hate this disease - what are we when even some doctors don't believe it's real? I hate when I get like that (feeling all the above), and this week it seems to be that way. I feel so horrible about it - not being able to be myself like I was before - energetic, being able to do a job and housework for many hours, and in general THINK! I know deep down that I try my hardest and I am beating and living with this (FM), but at times when I am down I wonder if I really am. Does that make sense? Does anyone else have this struggle with their abilities or lack of them? Like one day you know you are doing your best and then the next you feel like what the heck am I doing - nothing? Or is that weird? Sorry to end on a downer, but I guess I needed to get it out but it is so hard to look at what I do and not wonder why I cannot be " normal " even with FM, why can't I work, so many other people with FM work or other diseases, why can't I? Am I not strong enough? Oh I will hush now, sorry to all those that I just bummed out, that was not my intent and I hope I haven't, I guess I needed a listener. Sending much thanks for being there to listen to me complain! I hope we all have a better day! Janice " I wish we could change our dials to AM instead of FM!!! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 I understand your feelings completely! I often feel the same way. Some days I think, " is this condition real, or am I just out of shape, overweight and need to quit smoking? " Other days, the fatigue and sore spots are so bad, I know it's got to be something. Having a hyperactive 3 year old on meds doesn't help either. He never understands my need to rest. As soon as I try to relax on the couch, he runs to get into something. I wish I could explain! Taking naps is hard too, sometimes I have so much to do when he's sleeping because I can't get it done when he's awake When it's my time of the month, I get SO depressed and am in so much pain I can barely function. My husband is on and off supportive. He's having a hard time with the whole thing. I don't want to make him look bad or anything, he has been trying. He's used to the energetic person he met, and I'm not that anymore. Hugs to you! Re: Need some support Hi Petra, My I am glad that someone else feels all that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Thanks Michele for writing back, it is weird how nice it is that someone else feels the same as you, very comforting to know you all are out there dealing with some of the same stuff. Take care! Sending Comfort and Peace Janice " I wish we could change our dials to AM instead of FM!!! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Speaking us knowing what we are all going through, I just this minute opened up an envelope from the Disability Determination Services dept of MD. This form states that they are trying to obtain medical evidence necessary to make a decision. (shiver of fear) This form is pretty self-explanatory, asking what I do every minute of the day, etc. I'm very nervous about it, and am not sure that I can convey the agony I feel enough for them to determine a disability for me. Sigh. I guess this is all a part of FMS? I'll do my best though, that's for sure. Re: Need some support Thanks Michele for writing back, it is weird how nice it is that someone else feels the same as you, very comforting to know you all are out there dealing with some of the same stuff. Take care! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Michele: I know that shiver of fear so well. Just take your time with the form and let them know what you used to be able to do and what you can do now. Use examples and make it detailed. Think about your worst day when you fill it out. Just tell the truth and you will be fine. Let me know if you need anything. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 Dear Janice, You had a listener, Hi my name is Tricia and I live In Northwest ALABAMA, I " m married will be celebrating 30 yrs in July, we have 2 sons ages 26 & 27. Our oldest son is married and presented us with a little angel 2 yrs. ago. She came at a time in my life that I actually believe she saved my sanity. I was diagnosed with FMS and CFS in June of 98 at the age of 49, I'm also lucky enough to be going through menopause at the same time.(fun fun) But I was reading your post and I know how you feel. It's so hard not to ask ourselves is it in my head, or am I lazy, or a wimp, but I also believe the devil uses that against us to defeat us and I plan to fight back, I'm like Petra, I " m not going to let this ruin the rest of my life, sure there will be days I will stay in the recliner or days on end where I don't have the energy to go out of the house, but there again, my little angel keeps me going, she just lost her other grandma in Sept. to cogestive heart failure (she was only 57), so I want to be here for my little one, and I hope to have more someday. I still have a bachelor son who is still looking, so there's hope yet. I read that in 1987 THE AMA recognized FMS as a true physical illness and a major cause of disability. But we still have too many Drs. from the old school who refuse too recognize it as a true physical illness and is not all in our head!! There are 2 books put out that my DR recommended I read when I was first diagnosed and they have a wealth of info and it helps when you realize that they have went thu the same thing, they are " FIBROMYALGIA & CHRONIC MYOFASCIAL PAIN SYNDROME: A survival Guide by DEVIN J. STARLANYL, MD, she also has a website you may be interested in-----http://www.sover.net/~devstar. I hope I was able to get my thoughts and point made, with all this fibro-fog stuff who knows LOL. Hope you have a better day one that was almost or pain free. Fibro hugs coming your way. --ALA. " We can go through anything if we know Jesus is going with us " copied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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