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Kathy,

DO IT!! Rob and I are doing a good bit of travel and as long as you

feel you can handle it, by all means, go for it,

Carol & Rob

> Hey everbody,

>

> A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how crazy I

am because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for

Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort to

go places. We went to the mountains in June and October and really

enjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid to

take him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while he

can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. I know

some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a comfortable

cabin to rest in.

> I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some quality

of life.

>

> What do yall think, am I making a mistake?

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Thanks Carol and Rob. Can anyone tell a south ga. girl how to drive in the snow? kathy Re: trip Kathy,DO IT!! Rob and I are doing a good bit of travel and as long as youfeel you can handle it, by all means, go for it,Carol & Rob> Hey everbody,>> A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how crazy Iam because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today forFeb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort togo places. We went to the mountains in June and October and reallyenjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid totake him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while hecan. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. I knowsome days he won't be able to get out but we will have a comfortablecabin to rest in.> I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some qualityof life.>> What do yall think, am I making a mistake?> Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at<a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

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Kathy,

Carefully! What kind of car do you have? Front wheel drive or rear?

I prefer front wheel drive for bad weather driving. My current car

is rear wheel drive, and even though I have 4 snow tires on it, it's

not as good as my front wheel drives were. If you have a rear wheel

drive car, make sure you have some weight in the trunk. If you're

traveling, luggaage should do the trick. Otherwise, you might want to

add a 25 lb. sack of kitty litter or sand. Either is also good to

spread on the road if you get stuck.

The basic snow rules are just sensible - go slowly, but try not to

stop completely. If you have trouble getting moving from a dead

stop, try starting in second gear. With the new anti-lock brakes (if

you have them) you don't need to pump the brakes when you stop. If

you don't have anti-lock brakes, pump the brakes when you want to

stop so the wheels don't lock up and go into a skid. And, if you do

skid, steer in the direction you are skidding. That puts the most

traction on the road and helps you stop the skid. Also, when in a

skid, don't brake - it just makes it worse. If you have a manual

transmission, up-shift sooner that you would normally, keeping the

rpm on the tachometer low. This helps reduce torque, which in turn

helps reduce skidding. Also, try not to down-shift.

You will find that most of the roads in areas where it snows

frequently are well treated and cleared. It's the side roads and the

parking lots you have to watch out for.

Well, that's pretty much the primer.

Have fun!

Carol & Rob

> > Hey everbody,

> >

> > A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how crazy

I

> am because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for

> Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort to

> go places. We went to the mountains in June and October and really

> enjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid to

> take him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while he

> can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. I

know

> some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a comfortable

> cabin to rest in.

> > I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some quality

> of life.

> >

> > What do yall think, am I making a mistake?

> > Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer

at

> <a

href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

>

>

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Kathy,

Carefully! What kind of car do you have? Front wheel drive or rear?

I prefer front wheel drive for bad weather driving. My current car

is rear wheel drive, and even though I have 4 snow tires on it, it's

not as good as my front wheel drives were. If you have a rear wheel

drive car, make sure you have some weight in the trunk. If you're

traveling, luggaage should do the trick. Otherwise, you might want to

add a 25 lb. sack of kitty litter or sand. Either is also good to

spread on the road if you get stuck.

The basic snow rules are just sensible - go slowly, but try not to

stop completely. If you have trouble getting moving from a dead

stop, try starting in second gear. With the new anti-lock brakes (if

you have them) you don't need to pump the brakes when you stop. If

you don't have anti-lock brakes, pump the brakes when you want to

stop so the wheels don't lock up and go into a skid. And, if you do

skid, steer in the direction you are skidding. That puts the most

traction on the road and helps you stop the skid. Also, when in a

skid, don't brake - it just makes it worse. If you have a manual

transmission, up-shift sooner that you would normally, keeping the

rpm on the tachometer low. This helps reduce torque, which in turn

helps reduce skidding. Also, try not to down-shift.

You will find that most of the roads in areas where it snows

frequently are well treated and cleared. It's the side roads and the

parking lots you have to watch out for.

Well, that's pretty much the primer.

Have fun!

Carol & Rob

> > Hey everbody,

> >

> > A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how crazy

I

> am because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for

> Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort to

> go places. We went to the mountains in June and October and really

> enjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid to

> take him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while he

> can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. I

know

> some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a comfortable

> cabin to rest in.

> > I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some quality

> of life.

> >

> > What do yall think, am I making a mistake?

> > Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer

at

> <a

href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

>

>

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drive in the snow in Ga?

very slowly and carefully ;-] The other folks on the road down there have NO idea what they are doing in snow/ice ...

remember there my be a coating of ice under that snow that you could skid out on ... and always turn your wheels into the skid if that happens ..

but in Ga. it all goes away fast ... so just wait it out if you can ...

still frozen in CT

sheila

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drive in the snow in Ga?

very slowly and carefully ;-] The other folks on the road down there have NO idea what they are doing in snow/ice ...

remember there my be a coating of ice under that snow that you could skid out on ... and always turn your wheels into the skid if that happens ..

but in Ga. it all goes away fast ... so just wait it out if you can ...

still frozen in CT

sheila

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Oh yeah, I forgot one important thing. Bring a cell phone in case of

emergency.

> > > Hey everbody,

> > >

> > > A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how

crazy

> I

> > am because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today

for

> > Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort

to

> > go places. We went to the mountains in June and October and

really

> > enjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid to

> > take him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while

he

> > can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. I

> know

> > some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a

comfortable

> > cabin to rest in.

> > > I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some

quality

> > of life.

> > >

> > > What do yall think, am I making a mistake?

> > > Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN

Explorer

> at

> > <a

> href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Carol, Thanks for the advice, we have a Dodge Grand Caravan with front wheel drive. We were talking last night and we don't think there is a place here to buy snow chains. Maybe we can find them along the way if we need them. again thank you for the info, it will help me greatly Kathy Re: trip Kathy,Carefully! What kind of car do you have? Front wheel drive or rear?I prefer front wheel drive for bad weather driving. My current caris rear wheel drive, and even though I have 4 snow tires on it, it'snot as good as my front wheel drives were. If you have a rear wheeldrive car, make sure you have some weight in the trunk. If you'retraveling, luggaage should do the trick. Otherwise, you might want toadd a 25 lb. sack of kitty litter or sand. Either is also good tospread on the road if you get stuck.The basic snow rules are just sensible - go slowly, but try not tostop completely. If you have trouble getting moving from a deadstop, try starting in second gear. With the new anti-lock brakes (ifyou have them) you don't need to pump the brakes when you stop. Ifyou don't have anti-lock brakes, pump the brakes when you want tostop so the wheels don't lock up and go into a skid. And, if you doskid, steer in the direction you are skidding. That puts the mosttraction on the road and helps you stop the skid. Also, when in askid, don't brake - it just makes it worse. If you have a manualtransmission, up-shift sooner that you would normally, keeping therpm on the tachometer low. This helps reduce torque, which in turnhelps reduce skidding.. Also, try not to down-shift.You will find that most of the roads in areas where it snowsfrequently are well treated and cleared. It's the side roads and theparking lots you have to watch out for.Well, that's pretty much the primer.Have fun!Carol & Rob> > Hey everbody,> >> > A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how crazyI> am because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for> Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort to> go places. We went to the mountains in June and October and really> enjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid to> take him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while he> can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. Iknow> some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a comfortable> cabin to rest in.> > I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some quality> of life.> >> > What do yall think, am I making a mistake?> > Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorerat> <ahref="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>>>>

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Hi Carol, Thanks for the advice, we have a Dodge Grand Caravan with front wheel drive. We were talking last night and we don't think there is a place here to buy snow chains. Maybe we can find them along the way if we need them. again thank you for the info, it will help me greatly Kathy Re: trip Kathy,Carefully! What kind of car do you have? Front wheel drive or rear?I prefer front wheel drive for bad weather driving. My current caris rear wheel drive, and even though I have 4 snow tires on it, it'snot as good as my front wheel drives were. If you have a rear wheeldrive car, make sure you have some weight in the trunk. If you'retraveling, luggaage should do the trick. Otherwise, you might want toadd a 25 lb. sack of kitty litter or sand. Either is also good tospread on the road if you get stuck.The basic snow rules are just sensible - go slowly, but try not tostop completely. If you have trouble getting moving from a deadstop, try starting in second gear. With the new anti-lock brakes (ifyou have them) you don't need to pump the brakes when you stop. Ifyou don't have anti-lock brakes, pump the brakes when you want tostop so the wheels don't lock up and go into a skid. And, if you doskid, steer in the direction you are skidding. That puts the mosttraction on the road and helps you stop the skid. Also, when in askid, don't brake - it just makes it worse. If you have a manualtransmission, up-shift sooner that you would normally, keeping therpm on the tachometer low. This helps reduce torque, which in turnhelps reduce skidding.. Also, try not to down-shift.You will find that most of the roads in areas where it snowsfrequently are well treated and cleared. It's the side roads and theparking lots you have to watch out for.Well, that's pretty much the primer.Have fun!Carol & Rob> > Hey everbody,> >> > A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how crazyI> am because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for> Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort to> go places. We went to the mountains in June and October and really> enjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid to> take him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while he> can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. Iknow> some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a comfortable> cabin to rest in.> > I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some quality> of life.> >> > What do yall think, am I making a mistake?> > Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorerat> <ahref="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>>>>

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Thanks Sheila, I need all the advice I can get. Kathy Re: Re: trip drive in the snow in Ga? very slowly and carefully ;-] The other folks on the road down there have NO idea what they are doing in snow/ice ... remember there my be a coating of ice under that snow that you could skid out on ... and always turn your wheels into the skid if that happens .. but in Ga. it all goes away fast ... so just wait it out if you can ... still frozen in CT sheila

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> ... We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately.

> I know some days he won't be able to get out but we will

> have a comfortable cabin to rest in. ... I hope I am not

> making a mistake. I want him to have some quality of life.

What a WONDERFUL thing to do. No, I don't think this will be a mistake.

More importantly, you seem to understand that you need to take things at his

pace. That's a hard lesson to learn (for both of you).

My wife, , keeps gently reminding me to pace myself. She's right.

When I don't I fall apart. Never used to have that happen. But a nap now

does wonders. It's no longer a waste of time. It's a lifesaver!

And you never know. If *both* of you keep things low key, you might just

find it will help both of you. It's always nice to get away and have

wonderful bonding time. No matter how long you've been married.

Best wishes!

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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> ... We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately.

> I know some days he won't be able to get out but we will

> have a comfortable cabin to rest in. ... I hope I am not

> making a mistake. I want him to have some quality of life.

What a WONDERFUL thing to do. No, I don't think this will be a mistake.

More importantly, you seem to understand that you need to take things at his

pace. That's a hard lesson to learn (for both of you).

My wife, , keeps gently reminding me to pace myself. She's right.

When I don't I fall apart. Never used to have that happen. But a nap now

does wonders. It's no longer a waste of time. It's a lifesaver!

And you never know. If *both* of you keep things low key, you might just

find it will help both of you. It's always nice to get away and have

wonderful bonding time. No matter how long you've been married.

Best wishes!

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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Kathy,

As long as you can travel, do it. We went to Disney World in May

of 1998 when Charlotte was already bound to the W/C. It was great.

Since then she has the PEG and taking all the stuff for it would be a problem.

I did take one huge duffle bag of incontinence supplies :o)

I do wonder about your choice, how well do you drive in snow?

How well is Dave able to get around and how accessible are the cabins?

Those are the real questions.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

-------------------------------------------------------

kathy thompson wrote:

Hey everbody, A lot of you are probably

going to email me and tell me how crazy I am because Dave and I booked

a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold.

we have made a special effort to go places. We went to the mountains in

June and October and really enjoyed it very much. Some people have

asked me wasn't I afraid to take him off so far from home but I want him

to enjoy life while he can. We have never had an opportunity to travel

until lately. I know some days he won't be able to get out but we will

have a comfortable cabin to rest in.I hope I am not making a mistake.

I want him to have some quality of life. What do yall think,

am I making a mistake?Kathy T.

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Kathy,

As long as you can travel, do it. We went to Disney World in May

of 1998 when Charlotte was already bound to the W/C. It was great.

Since then she has the PEG and taking all the stuff for it would be a problem.

I did take one huge duffle bag of incontinence supplies :o)

I do wonder about your choice, how well do you drive in snow?

How well is Dave able to get around and how accessible are the cabins?

Those are the real questions.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

-------------------------------------------------------

kathy thompson wrote:

Hey everbody, A lot of you are probably

going to email me and tell me how crazy I am because Dave and I booked

a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold.

we have made a special effort to go places. We went to the mountains in

June and October and really enjoyed it very much. Some people have

asked me wasn't I afraid to take him off so far from home but I want him

to enjoy life while he can. We have never had an opportunity to travel

until lately. I know some days he won't be able to get out but we will

have a comfortable cabin to rest in.I hope I am not making a mistake.

I want him to have some quality of life. What do yall think,

am I making a mistake?Kathy T.

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Kathy,

It's highly unlikely that you will need chains. I've never used

them, and I've been in snow country my whole life! Don't even own a

pair. I think Rob had to buy some on a ski trip to Utah once, but

that was in tons of snow. (Obviously before he had SDS.)

Carol & Rob

> > > Hey everbody,

> > >

> > > A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how

crazy

> I

> > am because Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today

for

> > Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold. we have made a special effort

to

> > go places. We went to the mountains in June and October and

really

> > enjoyed it very much. Some people have asked me wasn't I afraid to

> > take him off so far from home but I want him to enjoy life while

he

> > can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until lately. I

> know

> > some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a

comfortable

> > cabin to rest in.

> > > I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some

quality

> > of life.

> > >

> > > What do yall think, am I making a mistake?

> > > Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer

> at

> > <a

> href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

> >

> >

> >

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I'm just wondering how people feel about the term "wheelchair-bound".

I have some friends who prefer that I refer to them as wheelchair users,

to them the wheelchair has freed them not bound them. They travel

all the time and love it. One thing I've learned when travelling

with my wheelchair using friends is to try to be prepared in advance.

1. Find out about accessibility at the hotels where you'll be staying,

is the toilet raised, are there grab bars, is there a roll-in shower or

a bath seat available.

2. Find out about accessible transportation .. are there accessible

buses and airport shuttles.

3. Find out where to rent or repair wheelchairs, scooters and other

medical equipment

4. Find out who to call if you become sick and can't provide the needed

personal care for your wheelchair user

Most of this sort of information is available at this great disability

travel site:

See http://www.access-able.com

Happy travels!

Pam

Werre wrote:

Kathy,

As long as you can travel, do it. We went to Disney World in May

of 1998 when Charlotte was already bound to the W/C. It was great.

Since then she has the PEG and taking all the stuff for it would be a problem.

I did take one huge duffle bag of incontinence supplies :o)

I do wonder about your choice, how well do you drive in snow?

How well is Dave able to get around and how accessible are the cabins?

Those are the real questions.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

-------------------------------------------------------

kathy thompson wrote:

Hey everbody, A lot of you are probably

going to email me and tell me how crazy I am because Dave and I booked

a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold.

we have made a special effort to go places. We went to the mountains in

June and October and really enjoyed it very much. Some people have

asked me wasn't I afraid to take him off so far from home but I want him

to enjoy life while he can. We have never had an opportunity to travel

until lately. I know some days he won't be able to get out but we will

have a comfortable cabin to rest in.I hope I am not making a mistake. I

want him to have some quality of life. What do yall think, am I

making a mistake?Kathy T.

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I'm just wondering how people feel about the term "wheelchair-bound".

I have some friends who prefer that I refer to them as wheelchair users,

to them the wheelchair has freed them not bound them. They travel

all the time and love it. One thing I've learned when travelling

with my wheelchair using friends is to try to be prepared in advance.

1. Find out about accessibility at the hotels where you'll be staying,

is the toilet raised, are there grab bars, is there a roll-in shower or

a bath seat available.

2. Find out about accessible transportation .. are there accessible

buses and airport shuttles.

3. Find out where to rent or repair wheelchairs, scooters and other

medical equipment

4. Find out who to call if you become sick and can't provide the needed

personal care for your wheelchair user

Most of this sort of information is available at this great disability

travel site:

See http://www.access-able.com

Happy travels!

Pam

Werre wrote:

Kathy,

As long as you can travel, do it. We went to Disney World in May

of 1998 when Charlotte was already bound to the W/C. It was great.

Since then she has the PEG and taking all the stuff for it would be a problem.

I did take one huge duffle bag of incontinence supplies :o)

I do wonder about your choice, how well do you drive in snow?

How well is Dave able to get around and how accessible are the cabins?

Those are the real questions.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

-------------------------------------------------------

kathy thompson wrote:

Hey everbody, A lot of you are probably

going to email me and tell me how crazy I am because Dave and I booked

a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for Feb 18-24. I know it will be cold.

we have made a special effort to go places. We went to the mountains in

June and October and really enjoyed it very much. Some people have

asked me wasn't I afraid to take him off so far from home but I want him

to enjoy life while he can. We have never had an opportunity to travel

until lately. I know some days he won't be able to get out but we will

have a comfortable cabin to rest in.I hope I am not making a mistake. I

want him to have some quality of life. What do yall think, am I

making a mistake?Kathy T.

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Kathy - As I wrote yesterday, we are taking more 3-4 day trips for this very

reason - quality of life. We go each year for a full week to Huntington Lake in

the High Sierras and I will book our cabin again for next summer, and we try to

spend at least three-four days in Yosemite during the season. I think it is the

best thing in the world to get out of our everyday environment and have the time

to just be together and talk, laugh, just sit, and to enjoy our beautiful world

and celebrate the lives we've shared together. I also use these times as a

measure of progression of the illness: what we could do three months ago,

what's more difficult now, etc. We are going away during the same time period

of February as you are - let's cherish these special times!

Elaine

>>> " kathy thompson " 01/04/01 08:11PM >>>

Hey everbody,

A lot of you are probably going to email me and tell me how crazy I am because

Dave and I booked a cabin in Pigeon Forge Tenn today for Feb 18-24. I know it

will be cold. we have made a special effort to go places. We went to the

mountains in June and October and really enjoyed it very much. Some people have

asked me wasn't I afraid to take him off so far from home but I want him to

enjoy life while he can. We have never had an opportunity to travel until

lately. I know some days he won't be able to get out but we will have a

comfortable cabin to rest in.

I hope I am not making a mistake. I want him to have some quality of life.

What do yall think, am I making a mistake?

Kathy T.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a

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