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Sue,

You may have something in your personality analysis, as opposed to the

quick assumption that interest in list discussion is gender-related. My

only question is whether there were more than 2 personality types

discussed? It seems to me that there should be others.

eaglette@... wrote:

>

> Hi All-

>

> : THANKS for the info on Grandma Bev's pharmacy! I don't know

> why I didn't think they'd have the vitamins there (duh!). We could

> stand saving $10 a pop! :-) Also, Chase is on a much less expensive

> but yummy multiple. However, we tried to switch the multivitamin pill

> into the ADEK bottle (they don't look that much different than the

> ADEK), however, my little munchkin two year old took her ADEK over to

> her brothers multivitamin and COMPARED them and rejected her pill and

> asked for one like brothers. That's why we give Chase the ADEK at

> least for now, until her eagle eye is off what brother's

> doing...probably won't be much longer :-). Yea...right... Hope Ang's

> cough is transitory and not serious. That's GREAT she had such a good

> summer!!!

>

> : If you mention to your friend about the possibility of CF

> for her child, and she knows how healthy your children are (even with

> Meagan having CF), it probably wouldn't be so scary to her to

> contemplate the possibility, as if she reads about it from a paper or

> brochure somewhere. You could just mention she may wish to rule it

> out as a possibility because the earlier we know this, the better it

> is for prevention. You're so tactful, you'd be able to do this in a

> loving way. If it was me, and my child had been going through all

> those symptoms, I'd want to know. I'm surprised they never tested

> Chase for CF when he'd had pneumonia 3x's by age 6 and all that sinus

> stuff!!! Hope you enjoyed your ice cream....but no OREO's with

> it??????? What am I going to do with you girl?

>

> : Thanks for your post!!! Welcome!

>

> : What a wonderful testimonial! It's obvious you've come to

> terms with CF in a very balanced way.

>

> Angi: MRSA stands for Methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus

> (see below for explanations)

>

> : Enjoyed your post. Just a thought-- I spent 10 hours Sunday

> at a work related seminar for personality typing. And as you are

> discussing whether or not our spouses frequent the list (mine doesn't

> by the way) what I learned Sunday made me guess that people most often

> frequenting this list are predominantly motivated by relationships and

> people. These are the ones who are strong supporters and confidantes,

> who want to help others have success and become their best. These

> people frequently see others potential, not just who they are. They

> adore their family and their spouse and children are always in the

> forefront of their thoughts. In my opinion, the next most

> predominant group on the list a the people interested in thoery or

> learning. They are not motivated as much by people, as they are by

> learning. That does not mean they don't love their families, it's

> just the motivation to gain knowledge is very strong in this group.

> Interestingly enough, they have an uncanny ability to map out a

> strategy and overall plan. We'd still be riding horseback without

> this personality type, because these are the inventors of the world.

> And because I'm of the relationship personality type, I don't really

> believe you can group people into four categories, because I believe

> everyone's special and unique! :-) But I did see some undeniable

> points made throughout the seminar that were fascinating! Possibly

> our spouses are of a third personality type that doesn't fall into

> either of the first two categories, and it's not gender related at

> all? Couldn't resist throwing my two cents in on this one!! :-)

>

> Jennie: Hey thanks for the confirmation on the ADEK switch for Chase

> and Kenzie...I just read your post and got a big smile out of it!!!

> By the way you are definitely a relationship oriented person and I'm

> impressed you've learned to say no even a little when things are

> overwhelming :-) I still struggle with this, and a friend bought me a

> book to read called, When I Say No, I Feel Guilty...hmmmm, I wonder

> what she was trying to tell me here.... You're children are learning

> wonderful life lessons through all your giving, and it's obvious that

> you enjoy the results!

>

> Torsten: I'm just so thrilled Fiona's doing so well. I want to write

> to you, but need to go for now. I'll write soon.

>

> Thanks to all of you for your loving and upbuilding posts!!!

>

> Sue

>

> Resistance of Staphylococci to Anti microbial Drugs

>

> Hospital strains of S aureus are usually resistant

> to a variety of different antibiotics. A

> few strains are resistant to all clinically useful

> antibiotics except vancomycin, and,

> rarely, vancomycin-resistant strains have been

> reported. The term MRSA refers to

> Methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus.

> Methicillin resistance is widespread

> and most methicillin-resistant strains are also

> multiply resistant. A plasmid associated

> with vancomycin resistance has been detected in the

> enterococci (Streptococcus

> faecalis), which can be transferred to S. aureus in

> the laboratory, and it is speculated

> that this transfer may occur naturally (e.g. in the

> gastrointestinal tract). In addition, S

> aureus exhibits resistance to antiseptics and

> disinfectants, such as quaternary

> ammonium compounds, which may aid its survival in

> the hospital environment.

>

> Staphylococcal disease has been a perennial problem

> in the hospital environment since

> the beginning of the antibiotic era. During the

> 1950's and early1960's, staphylococcal

> infection was synonymous with nosocomial infection.

> Gram-negative bacilli (e.g. E.

> coli and Pseudomonas aeruginosa) have replaced the

> staphylococci as the most

> frequent causes of nosocomial infections, although

> the staphylococci have remained a

> problem. S aureus responded to the introduction of

> antibiotics by the usual bacterial

> means to develop drug resistance: (1) mutation in

> chromosomal genes followed by

> selection of resistant strains and (2) acquisition

> of resistance genes as

> extrachromosomal plasmids, transducing particles,

> transposons, or other types of DNA

> inserts. S. aureus expresses its resistance to drugs

> and antibiotics through a variety of

> mechanisms.

>

> Beginning with the use of the penicillin in the

> 1940's, drug resistance has developed in

> the staphylococci within a very short time after

> introduction of an antibiotic into

> clinical use. Some strains are now resistant to most

> conventional antibiotics, and there

> is concern that new antibiotics have not been

> forthcoming. New strategies in the

> pharmaceutical industry to find antimicrobial drugs

> involve identifying potential

> molecular targets in cells (such the active sites of

> enzymes involved in cell division),

> then developing inhibitors of the specific target

> molecule. Hopefully, this approach will

> turn up new antimicrobial agents for the battle

> against staphylococcal infections.

>

> Host Defense against Staphylococcal Infections

>

> Phagocytosis is the major mechanism for combatting

> staphylococcal infection.

> Antibodies are produced which neutralize toxins and

> promote opsonization. However,

> the bacterial capsule and protein A may interfere

> with phagocytosis. Biofilm growth on

> implants is also impervious to phagocytosis.

>

> Treatment

>

> Infections acquired outside hospitals can usually be

> treated with penicillinase-resistant

> ß-lactams. Hospital acquired infection is often

> caused by antibiotic resistant strains and

> can only be treated with vancomycin.

>

> Vaccines

>

> No vaccine is available that stimulates active

> immunity against staphylococcal

> infections in humans. A vaccine based on fibronectin

> binding protein induces protective

> immunity against mastitis in cattle and might also

> be used as a vaccine in humans.

> Hyperimmune serum or monoclonal antibodies directed

> towards surface components

> (e.g., capsular polysaccharide or surface protein

> adhesions) could theoretically prevent

> bacterial adherence and promote phagocytosis by

> opsonization of bacterial cells. Also,

> human hyperimmune serum could be given to hospital

> patients before surgery as a form

> of passive immunization. When the precise molecular

> basis of the interactions between

> staphylococcal adhesins and host tissue receptors is

> known it might be possible to

> design compounds that block the interactions and

> thus prevent bacterial colonization.

> These could be administered systemically or

> topically.

>

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: You're pretty sharp here...yes there were actually 4 personality types

mentioned. I only listed the two I thought " might " frequent the list most often

:-) But since you're

twisting my arm here...

The other two we learned about were stability oriented people who are very into

preserving the status quo and following rules and regulations. These people

love procedure and are

not into questioning. So the system may take precedence over the people in the

system, and they may get easily frustrated by the people who don't choose to

follow " the rules " . The

other personality type was called action. These people love freedom of action,

making an impact, spontaneity, and performing. However they get sidetracked

very easily and would

never be able to sit still long enough to wade through the posts. So as I see

it, the Theory people would come up with the idea for the lists and all the

logistics of how to set it

up and would join it in order to learn as much about CF as possible, the

Stability people would then take over and make sure the list was implemented and

running smoothly and that

everyone got what they needed by following through (they may or may not stay on

the list), the Relationship people would be totally excited to find out this

list existed and joined

and began posting, and the Action people heard about the list thought it was a

good idea, maybe even signed up for the list, but had trouble making time in

their busy schedule to

actually get their e-mail and read it. I thought it was a very interesting

course, especially because the A's got a glazed over look in their eyes the 2nd

hour and you could tell

their minds were elsewhere, the T's in the room took copious notes and couldn't

keep their eyes off the workbooks most the day, the S's found all the errors and

inconsistencies in

the workbook and were frustrated at the instructors lack of concise instruction,

and the R's we're laughing and loving everybit of the self improvement part of

the course all the way

until the end, just because it was helping them understand people better. It

was pretty funny...but like I said, I still think there are a lot more than four

different categories of

people...oh yeah...and after I got home as I was telling my husband passionately

about all I'd learned, he fell asleep after the first ten minutes...you guessed

it...he's a true A.

This is only theory, but I thought it was really a fun business class, but

then...I'm a true R. :-)

Love -- Sue

Elliott wrote:

>

>

> Sue,

> You may have something in your personality analysis, as opposed to the

> quick assumption that interest in list discussion is gender-related. My

> only question is whether there were more than 2 personality types

> discussed? It seems to me that there should be others.

>

>

> eaglette@... wrote:

> >

> > Hi All-

> >

> > : THANKS for the info on Grandma Bev's pharmacy! I don't know

> > why I didn't think they'd have the vitamins there (duh!). We could

> > stand saving $10 a pop! :-) Also, Chase is on a much less expensive

> > but yummy multiple. However, we tried to switch the multivitamin pill

> > into the ADEK bottle (they don't look that much different than the

> > ADEK), however, my little munchkin two year old took her ADEK over to

> > her brothers multivitamin and COMPARED them and rejected her pill and

> > asked for one like brothers. That's why we give Chase the ADEK at

> > least for now, until her eagle eye is off what brother's

> > doing...probably won't be much longer :-). Yea...right... Hope Ang's

> > cough is transitory and not serious. That's GREAT she had such a good

> > summer!!!

> >

> > : If you mention to your friend about the possibility of CF

> > for her child, and she knows how healthy your children are (even with

> > Meagan having CF), it probably wouldn't be so scary to her to

> > contemplate the possibility, as if she reads about it from a paper or

> > brochure somewhere. You could just mention she may wish to rule it

> > out as a possibility because the earlier we know this, the better it

> > is for prevention. You're so tactful, you'd be able to do this in a

> > loving way. If it was me, and my child had been going through all

> > those symptoms, I'd want to know. I'm surprised they never tested

> > Chase for CF when he'd had pneumonia 3x's by age 6 and all that sinus

> > stuff!!! Hope you enjoyed your ice cream....but no OREO's with

> > it??????? What am I going to do with you girl?

> >

> > : Thanks for your post!!! Welcome!

> >

> > : What a wonderful testimonial! It's obvious you've come to

> > terms with CF in a very balanced way.

> >

> > Angi: MRSA stands for Methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus

> > (see below for explanations)

> >

> > : Enjoyed your post. Just a thought-- I spent 10 hours Sunday

> > at a work related seminar for personality typing. And as you are

> > discussing whether or not our spouses frequent the list (mine doesn't

> > by the way) what I learned Sunday made me guess that people most often

> > frequenting this list are predominantly motivated by relationships and

> > people. These are the ones who are strong supporters and confidantes,

> > who want to help others have success and become their best. These

> > people frequently see others potential, not just who they are. They

> > adore their family and their spouse and children are always in the

> > forefront of their thoughts. In my opinion, the next most

> > predominant group on the list a the people interested in thoery or

> > learning. They are not motivated as much by people, as they are by

> > learning. That does not mean they don't love their families, it's

> > just the motivation to gain knowledge is very strong in this group.

> > Interestingly enough, they have an uncanny ability to map out a

> > strategy and overall plan. We'd still be riding horseback without

> > this personality type, because these are the inventors of the world.

> > And because I'm of the relationship personality type, I don't really

> > believe you can group people into four categories, because I believe

> > everyone's special and unique! :-) But I did see some undeniable

> > points made throughout the seminar that were fascinating! Possibly

> > our spouses are of a third personality type that doesn't fall into

> > either of the first two categories, and it's not gender related at

> > all? Couldn't resist throwing my two cents in on this one!! :-)

> >

> > Jennie: Hey thanks for the confirmation on the ADEK switch for Chase

> > and Kenzie...I just read your post and got a big smile out of it!!!

> > By the way you are definitely a relationship oriented person and I'm

> > impressed you've learned to say no even a little when things are

> > overwhelming :-) I still struggle with this, and a friend bought me a

> > book to read called, When I Say No, I Feel Guilty...hmmmm, I wonder

> > what she was trying to tell me here.... You're children are learning

> > wonderful life lessons through all your giving, and it's obvious that

> > you enjoy the results!

> >

> > Torsten: I'm just so thrilled Fiona's doing so well. I want to write

> > to you, but need to go for now. I'll write soon.

> >

> > Thanks to all of you for your loving and upbuilding posts!!!

> >

> > Sue

> >

> > Resistance of Staphylococci to Anti microbial Drugs

> >

> > Hospital strains of S aureus are usually resistant

> > to a variety of different antibiotics. A

> > few strains are resistant to all clinically useful

> > antibiotics except vancomycin, and,

> > rarely, vancomycin-resistant strains have been

> > reported. The term MRSA refers to

> > Methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus.

> > Methicillin resistance is widespread

> > and most methicillin-resistant strains are also

> > multiply resistant. A plasmid associated

> > with vancomycin resistance has been detected in the

> > enterococci (Streptococcus

> > faecalis), which can be transferred to S. aureus in

> > the laboratory, and it is speculated

> > that this transfer may occur naturally (e.g. in the

> > gastrointestinal tract). In addition, S

> > aureus exhibits resistance to antiseptics and

> > disinfectants, such as quaternary

> > ammonium compounds, which may aid its survival in

> > the hospital environment.

> >

> > Staphylococcal disease has been a perennial problem

> > in the hospital environment since

> > the beginning of the antibiotic era. During the

> > 1950's and early1960's, staphylococcal

> > infection was synonymous with nosocomial infection.

> > Gram-negative bacilli (e.g. E.

> > coli and Pseudomonas aeruginosa) have replaced the

> > staphylococci as the most

> > frequent causes of nosocomial infections, although

> > the staphylococci have remained a

> > problem. S aureus responded to the introduction of

> > antibiotics by the usual bacterial

> > means to develop drug resistance: (1) mutation in

> > chromosomal genes followed by

> > selection of resistant strains and (2) acquisition

> > of resistance genes as

> > extrachromosomal plasmids, transducing particles,

> > transposons, or other types of DNA

> > inserts. S. aureus expresses its resistance to drugs

> > and antibiotics through a variety of

> > mechanisms.

> >

> > Beginning with the use of the penicillin in the

> > 1940's, drug resistance has developed in

> > the staphylococci within a very short time after

> > introduction of an antibiotic into

> > clinical use. Some strains are now resistant to most

> > conventional antibiotics, and there

> > is concern that new antibiotics have not been

> > forthcoming. New strategies in the

> > pharmaceutical industry to find antimicrobial drugs

> > involve identifying potential

> > molecular targets in cells (such the active sites of

> > enzymes involved in cell division),

> > then developing inhibitors of the specific target

> > molecule. Hopefully, this approach will

> > turn up new antimicrobial agents for the battle

> > against staphylococcal infections.

> >

> > Host Defense against Staphylococcal Infections

> >

> > Phagocytosis is the major mechanism for combatting

> > staphylococcal infection.

> > Antibodies are produced which neutralize toxins and

> > promote opsonization. However,

> > the bacterial capsule and protein A may interfere

> > with phagocytosis. Biofilm growth on

> > implants is also impervious to phagocytosis.

> >

> > Treatment

> >

> > Infections acquired outside hospitals can usually be

> > treated with penicillinase-resistant

> > ß-lactams. Hospital acquired infection is often

> > caused by antibiotic resistant strains and

> > can only be treated with vancomycin.

> >

> > Vaccines

> >

> > No vaccine is available that stimulates active

> > immunity against staphylococcal

> > infections in humans. A vaccine based on fibronectin

> > binding protein induces protective

> > immunity against mastitis in cattle and might also

> > be used as a vaccine in humans.

> > Hyperimmune serum or monoclonal antibodies directed

> > towards surface components

> > (e.g., capsular polysaccharide or surface protein

> > adhesions) could theoretically prevent

> > bacterial adherence and promote phagocytosis by

> > opsonization of bacterial cells. Also,

> > human hyperimmune serum could be given to hospital

> > patients before surgery as a form

> > of passive immunization. When the precise molecular

> > basis of the interactions between

> > staphylococcal adhesins and host tissue receptors is

> > known it might be possible to

> > design compounds that block the interactions and

> > thus prevent bacterial colonization.

> > These could be administered systemically or

> > topically.

> >

>

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