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August 20, 2007

Hi Donna:Here's a good link to info on peripheral neuropathy: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/peripheralneuropathy/peripheralneuropathy.htmI don't think any doctor can tell for sure if you have periphreal neuropathy without doing a nerve conduction test on my legs. The docs assumed my leg pain was from PN but after the nerve conduction test they found out there was nothing wrong with my legs and I didn't have PN.

My pain is from MS lesions and not PN. If it takes months to get into this

doctor then the doc is probably really good. I think I might wonder about a place that could get you in the next day, but who knows for sure. Can your primary doc do anything to get you in sooner? Have you called then and pleaded with them to find a slot for you? Have you looked at our group files? In our database there is a list of doctors recommended by our members. The link to it is: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MSersLife/database?method=reportRows & tbl=5 I can't remember where you right now but there are docs listed in LA and one in FL.For a much bigger listing of good docs go to the CLAMS (Computer Literate Advocates for Multiple Sclerosis) site at

http://www.clams.org/goodocs.html

Here's the info from the group files on MS Mimics:In no way should this be considered a complete list.--------Lupus Behcet'sNeurosarcoidosisADEMTransverse MyelitisSjogren's SyndromeLymeBrucellosisMyasthenia GravisFibromyalgiaHTLV1 and 2Devics Disease CeliacB-12 deficiencyThyroidSyphilisVascular DiseaseConnective Tissue Disease hugs))SharonThis email is a natural hand made product.

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Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a separate dx on its

own?

Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know what is

causing it.

I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then I could

take these questions to him/her. It is driving me crazy that I can

not

even get an apt.

Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, AL (3.5 hours

away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I called

back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems doing so.

Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in Birmingham,

Al?

I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to the apt

they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was too far

and that she would make some calls. She calls back later and says

that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be months.

Would I like to be on their waiting list?

Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down with a

list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.

In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just wanting the

answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all have been

very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.

I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have Peripheral

neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? From the

pamphlett

the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is Periphal

Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?

Thanks for you patience.

Donna (MS)

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August 21, 2007

Hi Donna:Is Fredericks on the list, too? What have you decided to do? It's really comforting to know the doc in AL is on the list! And you are welcome. How are you feeling?hugs))Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. another question

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> Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a

separate dx on its

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> own?

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> Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know what is

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> causing it.

>

> I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then I

could

>

> take these questions to him/her. It is driving me crazy that I can

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> not

>

> even get an apt.

>

> Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, AL (3.5

hours

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> away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I called

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> back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems doing

so.

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> Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in Birmingham,

>

> Al?

>

> I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to the apt

>

> they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was too

far

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> and that she would make some calls. She calls back later and says

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> that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be

months.

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> Would I like to be on their waiting list?

>

> Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down with a

>

> list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.

>

> In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just wanting

the

>

> answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all have

been

>

> very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.

>

> I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have

Peripheral

>

> neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? From the

>

> pamphlett

>

> the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is Periphal

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> Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?

>

> Thanks for you patience.

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> Donna (MS)

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Donna,

Do you think that now that you have a maybe dx and have learnt something about it some of you stress has lessened. This could be the reason for the improvement; the lessening of the stress, I mean.

If you are having muscle spasms, I have made an oil for that and it is free to all members here and any other MS patient. If you want to try it, just email me off list with your address and I will send it out to you. That is happybutterflies@...

HAPPINESS and BUTTERFLIES

Lynn another question> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a > > > > separate dx on its > > > > > > > > > > own? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know > what > is > > > > > > > > > > causing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then > I > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > take these questions to him/her. It is driving me > crazy that I > can > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > even get an apt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, > AL (3.5 > > > > hours > > > > > > > > > > away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I > called > > > > > > > > > > back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems > doing > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in > Birmingham, > > > > > > > > > > Al?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to > the > apt > > > > > > > > > > they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was > too > > > > far > > > > > > > > > > and that she would make some calls. She calls back > later and > says > > > > > > > > > > that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > Would I like to be on their waiting list?> > > > > > > > > > Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down > with > a > > > > > > > > > > list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just > wanting > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all > have > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have > > > > Peripheral > > > > > > > > > > neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? > From the > > > > > > > > > > pamphlett > > > > > > > > > > the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is > Periphal > > > > > > > > > > Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you patience.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donna (MS)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > > ____________ __> > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out > Yahoo! Autos > > > > new Car Finder tool.> > > > > http://autos. yahoo.com/ carfinder/> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________> ______________> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/> >> > > > >

August 21, 2007

Donna,

Do you think that now that you have a maybe dx and have learnt something about it some of you stress has lessened. This could be the reason for the improvement; the lessening of the stress, I mean.

If you are having muscle spasms, I have made an oil for that and it is free to all members here and any other MS patient. If you want to try it, just email me off list with your address and I will send it out to you. That is happybutterflies@...

HAPPINESS and BUTTERFLIES

Lynn another question> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a > > > > separate dx on its > > > > > > > > > > own? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know > what > is > > > > > > > > > > causing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then > I > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > take these questions to him/her. It is driving me > crazy that I > can > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > even get an apt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, > AL (3.5 > > > > hours > > > > > > > > > > away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I > called > > > > > > > > > > back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems > doing > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in > Birmingham, > > > > > > > > > > Al?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to > the > apt > > > > > > > > > > they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was > too > > > > far > > > > > > > > > > and that she would make some calls. She calls back > later and > says > > > > > > > > > > that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > Would I like to be on their waiting list?> > > > > > > > > > Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down > with > a > > > > > > > > > > list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just > wanting > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all > have > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have > > > > Peripheral > > > > > > > > > > neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? > From the > > > > > > > > > > pamphlett > > > > > > > > > > the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is > Periphal > > > > > > > > > > Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you patience.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donna (MS)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > > ____________ __> > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out > Yahoo! Autos > > > > new Car Finder tool.> > > > > http://autos. yahoo.com/ carfinder/> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________> ______________> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/> >> > > > >

August 22, 2007

Donna:Are you keeping track of your daily symptoms in a journal of some sort? It isn't weird that the worst symptoms went away because that's what happens with relapsing/remitting (RRMS).Have you told Fredericks office about the flashes of light in your eye at night? Do they know all that is going on with you? Perhaps that will help. Have you talked to them and asked pretty please let me know if you have an opening? Hang in there.... everything will be fine. hugs))Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no

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Donna:Are you keeping track of your daily symptoms in a journal of some sort? It isn't weird that the worst symptoms went away because that's what happens with relapsing/remitting (RRMS).Have you told Fredericks office about the flashes of light in your eye at night? Do they know all that is going on with you? Perhaps that will help. Have you talked to them and asked pretty please let me know if you have an opening? Hang in there.... everything will be fine. hugs))Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no

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Donna (MS)

Hmmm... I kind of agree, but yet disagree with the Psych.. It's possible

that you'll start looking for symptoms, and your mind will create them...

Remember when you wanted to play hookie from school when you were a kid..

You'd talk yourself into feeling queasy, so you could honestly say.. " I

don't feel good, I think I'm going to puke " .. type thing.. But the fact

remains, if I were going to write down my symptoms, I'd have to sit down and

THINK really hard to list them all... Because they've become a part of life

that I live with every day.. I don't notice that I run to the bathroom

twenty times during the day anymore.. So if I were asked about frequency.. I

couldn't tell you how many times I've been to the bathroom, or how many

times it's been a " hurry up and wait... or hurry up.. haha I fooled you "

type situation... unless I were to write it down in the bathroom while I was

there.. or sat and thought about it for awhile... Gee.. was the numbness in

my hands any better today, or was it worse.. how bout my feet.. The only

time I really really notice it getting worse is if I eaten something with

MSG in it.. Because then it gets really really awful. I don't realize

during the day, unless I'm concentrating on that fact.. if they are worse or

not. So if you've lived with symptoms for quite awhile, chances are you've

become accustomed to them, and don't really notice them, unless you are

thinking about them.

As for 'looking for a diagnosis' ... My MS mentor, for lack of a better

term, advised me to hold off on actively seeking a diagnosis until AFTER I

had all my ducks in a row... Things like life insurance, health insurance

and disability insurance, because once you have the diagnosis, you aren't

getting these insurances, at least not at an extremely HIGH premium if you

can get them at all. Prudential is a good example.. great insurance

coverage, and once the doctor signs the paper stating that I am disabled, I

won't have to pay premiums anymore for the rest of my life, and my coverage

will remain the same as if I were paying the premiums... I just can't

increase the coverage or change the plan in any manner.. other than

beneficiaries or stuff like that. But other than getting your ducks in a

row, before seeking a diagnosis, there's not a thing wrong with wanting to

find out just what in the heck IS going on in your body. Not to mention IF

it is the MonSter, you'll be wanting to at least attempt to modify the

progress of the disease through one of the CRAB-T drugs and I would think

the sooner the better..

Now I go back to the symptoms, you might want to think about things you've

been treated for in the past. MS is usually not (I think something like 1%

to maybe 5%) Primary Progressive, meaning it starts and never stops

progressing, therefore no remissions. So through my medical history it was

able to be pretty certain that I had MS for at least 10 years before my

diagnosis. I had bouts of lower back pain to the point I actually called a

doctor and asked them what it felt like to have a spinal disc blow out,

since I knew I had one that was already herniated... it wasn't a blow out,

and I did nothing except drive over a speed bump at 5mph that seemed to set

this pain off... Turns out it wasn't the speed bump at all.. but we didn't

know that until AFTER my diagnosis... Chiropractor treated me for Carpal

Tunnel, because my pinkies were numb.. that wasn't Carpal Tunnel either...

PCP treated me for Bursitis in my shoulder.. it wasn't Bursitis.. Went to

see an Orthopedic Surgeon when my left leg stopped working.. (it was two

weeks coming, two weeks here, and two weeks leaving).. by the time I saw

him, he looked at the MRI said it wasn't coming from the herniated disk in

my back, and had NO idea what caused it.. 3 minutes and $150 later he

ushered me out of his office with a " Have A Nice Day " .. and still no clue...

(he didn't get that $150 either.. lol... so I hope HE had a nice 3 minutes..

LOL)... Emergency Room doctors telling my I just HAD to have a headache

because of everything going numb on my left side from the chin down..but

only my arm... argued with me that I had a headache.. they did a pregnancy

test and sent me home..

Fact remains that " I " had to tell the doctor that " I " was pretty sure that I

had MS... she doubted me.. but ordered the MRI to rule it out... This is

kind of one time I wish I hadn't been right.. but she was wrong..

Are you sure you heard her right when she said MS is the catch all, that you

look into when you've exhausted everything else? Because there is no

definitive test to prove that you have MS. The only way to diagnosis MS (or

at least in 2000, it was the only way) is to rule out other things first..

The only thing that I read on the order for the MRI was that she was doing

the test to rule out MS.. My understanding is that you don't get a Definite

MS diagnois until you pass or fail (depending on how you look at it) more

than 4 or 5 tests... I had the MRI first, 7 lesions. Next test I'm pretty

was Visual Evokeds, failed that. Think I had Nerve Conduction as well,

failed that.. Last but not least.. was the Lumbar Puncture and blood work..

didn't pass those either. So by the time I was diagnosed, I was Definite MS.

I've got a friend in Connecticut who has " Possible MS " and has been since

1992 or 1993... Hopefully, if she's got MS it's Benign.. and she'll never

have another relapse the rest of her life..

It's all pretty much so a toss up... But the best thing that you can do for

yourself during this period of uncertainty, is educate yourself so you are

informed and you know what to expect in the way of tests and things, and you

can be an informed patient. If you KNOW that they are going to want to do an

MRI before they suggest it, you've already had time to think about it, and

have decision right then, rather than.. hmmmm... If they suggest and MRI,

you might want to suggest not only an MRI of the brain and cervical area,

but of the spine as well. You may or may not get what you ask for, but alot

of time the lesions don't appear in the brain, but can be active in the

spine. Make sure that the MRI is Gadlinium (I want to say Gladiolium, but

that's not the correct spelling either) enhanced.. With the enhancement,

they can't miss the active lesions, and I am pretty much certain that even

the inactive lesions appear a little more clearly.

And remember, that a lot of people with MS have had the suggestion that all

of it was " just their imagination " ... So don't take it to heart to much...

YOU are the only one who really knows what's going on inside your body, and

there's is NO harm in wanting to find out just what it is that's going on

either. The pain is very real, and something is causing the pain.. go for it

and find out what it is.

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Donna, would it work to maker an appointment with both? Then you could get a "second opinion"? <g> You could see both, with good reputations, and pick in the end? Maybe you were in the midst of a flare? HUGS, Challis Donna wrote: Hi Sharon,Yes, Fredricks (the one here at home) is on the list too. If I don't hear from her before Tuesday, I may just go to Birmingham. The one

in Birmingham is a MS specialist and Fredricks is a Neurologist that sees MS patients, if that makes sense. I have heard nothing but wonderful things said about Fredricks so I would like to be her patient. Thats just it, everyone wants to be her patient. I have to have a neuro here. I don't know what to do.I have not been sleeping well at all. My legs drive me crazy at night and I keep having these flashes of light in one of my eyes. I haven't had the numbness for the last 2 or 3 days. The spasms are better since I started taking tramadol. Today, I saw my Psychiatrist. We are going to try the cymbalta again starting with a very low dose. She says she has seen great results in many of her patients using cymbalta for pain. I hope so. I tried it before but couldn't tolerate it. She also gave me a weeks worth of Ambian. I think if I could catch up on my sleep, I would feel so much better. She spent some time

talking with me about how I shouldn't panic and wait and see the dr. to know. She also said not to read so much. I don't know about that one. I do get anxious over some of the stuff I read but I think I would rather be informed. It is weird though, for almost 2 months my symptoms were constant and just awful. Then, the bad ones sort of went away. I still have the pins and needles in my hands and feet and the spasms in my back. Yet, the last few days I haven't felt overwhelmed with so many symptoms happening at once. The flashes of light bother me.Thanks for asking. I am doing better and tomorrow, after I have had a good night sleep, I will be even better.Donna (MS) > > >> > > Hi Donna:> > > > > > Here's a good link to info on peripheral neuropathy: > > http://www.ninds. nih.gov/disorder s/peripheralneur opathy/periphera lneur> > opathy.htm> > > > > > I don't think any doctor can tell for sure if you have periphreal > > neuropathy without doing a nerve conduction test on my legs. The > > docs assumed my leg pain was from PN but after the nerve conduction > > test they found out there was nothing wrong with my legs and I didn't >

> have PN. My pain is from MS lesions and not PN. > > > > > > If it takes months to get into this> > > doctor then the doc is probably really good. I think I might > > wonder about a place that could get you in the next day, but who > > knows for sure. Can your primary doc do anything to get you in > > sooner? Have you called then and pleaded with them to find a slot > > for you? > > > > > > Have you looked at our group files? In our database there is a > > list of doctors recommended by our members. The link to it is: > > http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ MSersLife/ database?> > method=reportRows & tbl=5 I can't remember where you right now but > > there are docs listed in LA and one in FL.> > > > >

> For a much bigger listing of good docs go to the CLAMS (Computer > > Literate Advocates for Multiple Sclerosis) site at > > > > > > http://www.clams. org/goodocs. html> > > > > > > > > Here's the info from the group files on MS Mimics:> > > > > > In no way should this be considered a complete list.> > > --------> > > Lupus > > > Behcet's> > > Neurosarcoidosis> > > ADEM> > > Transverse Myelitis> > > Sjogren's Syndrome> > > Lyme> > > Brucellosis> > > Myasthenia Gravis> > > Fibromyalgia> > > HTLV1 and 2> > > Devics Disease > > > Celiac> > > B-12

deficiency> > > Thyroid> > > Syphilis> > > Vascular Disease> > > Connective Tissue Disease> > > hugs))> > > > > > Sharon> > > This email is a natural hand made product.> > > The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its > > individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered > > flaws or defects.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another question> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a > > separate dx on its > > > > > > own? > > > > > > > > > > > > Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know what is > > > > > > causing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then I > > could > > > > > > take these questions to him/her. It is driving me crazy that I can > > > > > > not > > > >

> > even get an apt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, AL (3.5 > > hours > > > > > > away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I called > > > > > > back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems doing > > so. > > > > > > Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in Birmingham, > > > > > > Al?> > > > > > > > > > > > I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to the apt > > > > > > they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was too > > far > > > > > > and that she would make

some calls. She calls back later and says > > > > > > that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be > > months. > > > > > > Would I like to be on their waiting list?> > > > > > Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down with a > > > > > > list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.> > > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just wanting > > the > > > > > > answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all have > > been > > > > > > very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.> > > > > > > > > > >

> I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have > > Peripheral > > > > > > neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? From the > > > > > > pamphlett > > > > > > the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is Periphal > > > > > > Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you patience.> > > > > > > > > > > > Donna (MS)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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In all fairness, I should start by saying I'm a little torqued over things said to you. (TO you lol not by you lol). {{{{{{{{Donna}}}}}}}} You don't have to go looking for symptoms, they're gnawing at your ankles and won't go away. You're not dx hunting, you're seeking answers. Something is wrong. The dx may not yet have found it's name, but it does not change the fact that it's there and you are living it. You have a right to know what is going on with your body and you have a right to seek someone who will help. Medicos can be incredibly insensitive. They may not always realize how hurtful or harmful their comments can be. That does not excuse it though and they should realize. The Nerve Conduction Test... the experience depends on

who you speak with. I found it to be no trouble at all. Drink lots of fluids before hand, to keep your skin supple, and your muscles, too... and this helps tremendously. Eating well and nutritiously also keeps your skin and muscles supple and will help. MS is not a catch-all dx. What a stupid thing to say. Okay, I see I have my own bags packed and waiting. Carrying my own issues into your email. rofl Sorry. I did delete some of what I'd written and that's good. I swore. <gasp> Donna... I was told my problems were from breastfeeding. I was told that studies had proven when a patient is told they don't have ____ their symptoms go away. I was disbelieved based partly on the fact that my Mother has MS. I have something wrong with me. I don't have an answer. I'm tired

of not having one. I'm tired of being afraid of being treated poorly by ignorant "professionals" and being told things which are more crap than I can handle. You aren't alone in how you're feeling or what you've been told. I don't know that it's any comfort to know how many have been, and are going through, the same crap and sometimes even more. At least we're not alone? It isn't just us? I am glad to hear you are being sent for more testing. The Docs are not dismissing the reality of your problems and that is a very good thing. HUGS, Challis Donna wrote: Hi Sharon,I am trying to keep a journal. Yesterday, when I told my Psychiatrist, she told me to be careful that I would "start to look for symptoms" to write down. ??????Today, I saw my internist and she had gotten a letter from my Ruematologist. She made the comment that she hated to see me "go looking for a dx" ( don't think she liked me going to see another dr.). I told her that I thought I had Fibromyalgia and I thought the new Reumatologist could help me manage my pain since there were new pain meds on the market. Anyway, she is sending me for a "nerve conduction test (EMG)" and I have an appointment for that on 9/12. If someone could explain to me what that is all about, I would really appreciate

it.I told her about the sparks of light, the eye twitching, the light shows and how my vision had gotten blurry since my eye apt in May. She referred me to an Opthamologist and that appointment is on 9/18. The eye problems could be explained away as migrain related, not necessarily MS related.In the letter the Ruematologist wrote to my internist, he advised that I go back to the sleep lab and be observed with my C- pap machine and to see how bad my legs are twitching at night. She is also setting that appointment up. He also mentioned the peripheral neurapathy and that he had referred me to a neurologist. No where in the letter did he mention suspicion of MS. Was I dreaming? He and his Nurse Practiioner both mentioned it to me at different visits. I thought I had fibromyalgia. That is why I went to see a Ruematologist. That is why I was so shocked when MS was mentioned. I didn't bring it up, they did.

I certainly did not go looking for it.I left her office very confused. In my mind, I was looking for relief and not "hunting for a diagnoses". She said Fibromyalgia is very complicated and hard to treat. There is alot they don't understand about it. She was sorry there were no ready answers and there was no easy fixes. ???? Fibromyalgia is not MS.She did blood work and played down the whole MS thing. Basically, what I think I understood her to say was "MS is one of those catch all things" that you look into when you have pretty much exhausted all of the other avenues. There are many things you test for before you start testing for MS. I am not sleeping well at night and that can cause my pain to be worse. Pain and lack of sleep can cause depression and well, what came first, the chicke or the egg?I got home and a msg had been left on my phone by the local Neurologist's office (the one I had been

waiting for). I finally have an appointment in October. D (MS) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi Donna:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a good link to info on peripheral neuropathy: > > > > > > http://www.ninds. nih.gov/disorder s/peripheralneur > > opathy/periphera lneur> > > > > > opathy.htm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think any doctor can tell for sure if you

have periphreal > > > > > > neuropathy without doing a nerve conduction test on my legs. The > > > > > > docs assumed my leg pain was from PN but after the nerve conduction > > > > > > test they found out there was nothing wrong with my legs and I > > didn't > > > > > > have PN. My pain is from MS lesions and not PN. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it takes months to get into this> > > > > > > doctor then the doc is probably really good. I think I might > > > > > > wonder about a place that could get you in the next day, but who > > > > > > knows for sure. Can your primary doc do anything to get you in > > > > >

> sooner? Have you called then and pleaded with them to find a slot > > > > > > for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you looked at our group files? In our database there is a > > > > > > list of doctors recommended by our members. The link to it is: > > > > > > http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ MSersLife/ database?> > > > > > method=reportRows & tbl=5 I can't remember where you right now but > > > > > > there are docs listed in LA and one in FL.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a much bigger listing of good docs go to the CLAMS (Computer > > > > > > Literate Advocates for

Multiple Sclerosis) site at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.clams. org/goodocs. html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's the info from the group files on MS Mimics:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In no way should this be considered a complete list.> > > > > > > --------> > > > > > > Lupus > > > > > > > Behcet's> > > > > > > Neurosarcoidosis> > > > > > > ADEM> > > > > > > Transverse Myelitis> > > > > > > Sjogren's

Syndrome> > > > > > > Lyme> > > > > > > Brucellosis> > > > > > > Myasthenia Gravis> > > > > > > Fibromyalgia> > > > > > > HTLV1 and 2> > > > > > > Devics Disease > > > > > > > Celiac> > > > > > > B-12 deficiency> > > > > > > Thyroid> > > > > > > Syphilis> > > > > > > Vascular Disease> > > > > > > Connective Tissue Disease> > > > > > > hugs))> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharon> > > > > > > This

email is a natural hand made product.> > > > > > > The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its > > > > > > individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered > > > > > > flaws or defects.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another question> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a > > > > > > separate dx on its > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> own? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know what > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then I > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take these questions to him/her. It is driving me crazy that I > > can > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even get an apt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, AL (3.5 > > > > > > hours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I called > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems doing > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know

anything about the Tanner MS clinic in > > Birmingham, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to the > > apt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was too > > > > > > far > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and that she would make some calls. She calls back later and > > says > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that she tried

with the neuro she knows and that it would be > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would I like to be on their waiting list?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down with > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just wanting > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all have > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have > > > > > > Peripheral > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? From the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pamphlett > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is Periphal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you patience.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donna (MS)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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ROFL Your second spelling of the contrast is closer to what I try to put, so I hope it's closest to correct. LOL Why would they treat your for CTS if your pinky was numb? Your pinky goes numb with Ulnar Palsy, not CTS. Oy. Yes, I'm rolling my eyes over "them". LOLOL HUGS, Challis |}onna wrote: Donna (MS)Hmmm... I kind of agree, but yet disagree with the Psych..

It's possible that you'll start looking for symptoms, and your mind will create them... Remember when you wanted to play hookie from school when you were a kid.. You'd talk yourself into feeling queasy, so you could honestly say.. "I don't feel good, I think I'm going to puke".. type thing.. But the fact remains, if I were going to write down my symptoms, I'd have to sit down and THINK really hard to list them all... Because they've become a part of life that I live with every day.. I don't notice that I run to the bathroom twenty times during the day anymore.. So if I were asked about frequency.. I couldn't tell you how many times I've been to the bathroom, or how many times it's been a "hurry up and wait... or hurry up.. haha I fooled you" type situation... unless I were to write it down in the bathroom while I was there.. or sat and thought about it for awhile... Gee.. was the numbness in my hands any better today, or

was it worse.. how bout my feet.. The only time I really really notice it getting worse is if I eaten something with MSG in it.. Because then it gets really really awful. I don't realize during the day, unless I'm concentrating on that fact.. if they are worse or not. So if you've lived with symptoms for quite awhile, chances are you've become accustomed to them, and don't really notice them, unless you are thinking about them.As for 'looking for a diagnosis' ... My MS mentor, for lack of a better term, advised me to hold off on actively seeking a diagnosis until AFTER I had all my ducks in a row... Things like life insurance, health insurance and disability insurance, because once you have the diagnosis, you aren't getting these insurances, at least not at an extremely HIGH premium if you can get them at all. Prudential is a good example.. great insurance coverage, and once the doctor signs the paper stating that I

am disabled, I won't have to pay premiums anymore for the rest of my life, and my coverage will remain the same as if I were paying the premiums... I just can't increase the coverage or change the plan in any manner.. other than beneficiaries or stuff like that. But other than getting your ducks in a row, before seeking a diagnosis, there's not a thing wrong with wanting to find out just what in the heck IS going on in your body. Not to mention IF it is the MonSter, you'll be wanting to at least attempt to modify the progress of the disease through one of the CRAB-T drugs and I would think the sooner the better..Now I go back to the symptoms, you might want to think about things you've been treated for in the past. MS is usually not (I think something like 1% to maybe 5%) Primary Progressive, meaning it starts and never stops progressing, therefore no remissions. So through my medical history it was able to be

pretty certain that I had MS for at least 10 years before my diagnosis. I had bouts of lower back pain to the point I actually called a doctor and asked them what it felt like to have a spinal disc blow out, since I knew I had one that was already herniated... it wasn't a blow out, and I did nothing except drive over a speed bump at 5mph that seemed to set this pain off... Turns out it wasn't the speed bump at all.. but we didn't know that until AFTER my diagnosis... Chiropractor treated me for Carpal Tunnel, because my pinkies were numb.. that wasn't Carpal Tunnel either... PCP treated me for Bursitis in my shoulder.. it wasn't Bursitis.. Went to see an Orthopedic Surgeon when my left leg stopped working.. (it was two weeks coming, two weeks here, and two weeks leaving).. by the time I saw him, he looked at the MRI said it wasn't coming from the herniated disk in my back, and had NO idea what caused it.. 3 minutes and $150

later he ushered me out of his office with a "Have A Nice Day".. and still no clue... (he didn't get that $150 either.. lol... so I hope HE had a nice 3 minutes.. LOL)... Emergency Room doctors telling my I just HAD to have a headache because of everything going numb on my left side from the chin down..but only my arm... argued with me that I had a headache.. they did a pregnancy test and sent me home..Fact remains that "I" had to tell the doctor that "I" was pretty sure that I had MS... she doubted me.. but ordered the MRI to rule it out... This is kind of one time I wish I hadn't been right.. but she was wrong..Are you sure you heard her right when she said MS is the catch all, that you look into when you've exhausted everything else? Because there is no definitive test to prove that you have MS. The only way to diagnosis MS (or at least in 2000, it was the only way) is to rule out other things first.. The

only thing that I read on the order for the MRI was that she was doing the test to rule out MS.. My understanding is that you don't get a Definite MS diagnois until you pass or fail (depending on how you look at it) more than 4 or 5 tests... I had the MRI first, 7 lesions. Next test I'm pretty was Visual Evokeds, failed that. Think I had Nerve Conduction as well, failed that.. Last but not least.. was the Lumbar Puncture and blood work.. didn't pass those either. So by the time I was diagnosed, I was Definite MS. I've got a friend in Connecticut who has "Possible MS" and has been since 1992 or 1993... Hopefully, if she's got MS it's Benign.. and she'll never have another relapse the rest of her life..It's all pretty much so a toss up... But the best thing that you can do for yourself during this period of uncertainty, is educate yourself so you are informed and you know what to expect in the way of tests and things, and

you can be an informed patient. If you KNOW that they are going to want to do an MRI before they suggest it, you've already had time to think about it, and have decision right then, rather than.. hmmmm... If they suggest and MRI, you might want to suggest not only an MRI of the brain and cervical area, but of the spine as well. You may or may not get what you ask for, but alot of time the lesions don't appear in the brain, but can be active in the spine. Make sure that the MRI is Gadlinium (I want to say Gladiolium, but that's not the correct spelling either) enhanced.. With the enhancement, they can't miss the active lesions, and I am pretty much certain that even the inactive lesions appear a little more clearly.And remember, that a lot of people with MS have had the suggestion that all of it was "just their imagination"... So don't take it to heart to much... YOU are the only one who really knows what's going

on inside your body, and there's is NO harm in wanting to find out just what it is that's going on either. The pain is very real, and something is causing the pain.. go for it and find out what it is.|}onna another question>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >

>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a>>>> >>>>> > separate dx on its>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > own?>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>

>>>>> > > Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know what>>>> is>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > causing it.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then I>>>> >>>>> > could>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > take these questions to him/her. It is driving me crazy that I>>>> can>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >

> not>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > even get an apt.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, AL (3.5>>>> >>>>> > hours>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I> called>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems doing>>>> >>>>> >

so.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in>>>> Birmingham,>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Al?>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to the>>>> apt>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was> too>>>> >>>>> > far>>>>

>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > and that she would make some calls. She calls back later and>>>> says>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be>>>> >>>>> > months.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Would I like to be on their waiting list?>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down> with>>>> a>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > list of questions then

to sit here and wonder for months.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just> wanting>>>> >>>>> > the>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all have>>>> >>>>> > been>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >

>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have>>>> >>>>> > Peripheral>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? From the>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > pamphlett>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is Periphal>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?>>>>

>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Thanks for you patience.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Donna (MS)>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>

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August 24, 2007

Is there another Internist you can see?? Challis Donna wrote: Thanks Donna,I think what the internist was saying is that yes I do have many of the same symptoms that go along with MS. However, There are so many other things that could cause the symptoms, she would rule all of those out before looking into MS. You know like y'all were saying there are things that mimic MS. While talking to her I felt as thought she were

telling me that I was over reacting and jumping to conclusions and making my self upset for no reason. I really think she was irritated that I went to another dr for the fibromyalgia. She made the comment "seeing a lot of different drs looking for a diagnoses". I hurt. I hurt every day. And I have weird stuff happening to me. Maybe it is just fibromyalgia but the Ruematologist said the numbness in my hands and feet (he didn't think) sounded like fibro. Last time I went to her she told me she would only write me a perscription for a small amount of the tramadol (pain for fibro) and if I needed to take it more often during the day then I would need to go back to the Reumatologist.I don't know why I let her bother me. Her idea of tx is giving her pts the highest dose of antidepressants they can handle and telling them they are depressed. I think she believes my symtoms are all because I am depressed. D (MS)

> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Hi Donna:> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >>

>> >>> >> > > Here's a good link to info on peripheral neuropathy:> >>> >> >> >>> >> > http://www.ninds. nih.gov/disorder s/peripheralneur> >>> >> opathy/periphera lneur> >>> >> >> >>> >> > opathy.htm> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > I don't think any doctor can tell for sure if you have> > periphreal> >>> >> >> >>> >> > neuropathy without doing a nerve conduction test on my legs. The> >>> >> >> >>> >> > docs assumed my leg pain was from PN but after the nerve> > conduction> >>>

>> >> >>> >> > test they found out there was nothing wrong with my legs and I> >>> >> didn't> >>> >> >> >>> >> > have PN. My pain is from MS lesions and not PN.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > If it takes months to get into this> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > doctor then the doc is probably really good. I think I might> >>> >> >> >>> >> > wonder about a place that could get you in the next day, but who> >>> >> >> >>> >> > knows for sure. Can your primary doc do anything to get you in> >>> >> >> >>>

>> > sooner? Have you called then and pleaded with them to find a> > slot> >>> >> >> >>> >> > for you?> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Have you looked at our group files? In our database there is a> >>> >> >> >>> >> > list of doctors recommended by our members. The link to it is:> >>> >> >> >>> >> > http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ MSersLife/ database?> >>> >> >> >>> >> > method=reportRows & tbl=5 I can't remember where you right now> > but> >>> >> >> >>> >> > there are docs listed in

LA and one in FL.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > For a much bigger listing of good docs go to the CLAMS> > (Computer> >>> >> >> >>> >> > Literate Advocates for Multiple Sclerosis) site at> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > http://www.clams. org/goodocs. html> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Here's the info from the group files on MS Mimics:> >>> >> >>

>>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > In no way should this be considered a complete list.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > --------> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Lupus> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Behcet's> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Neurosarcoidosis> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > ADEM> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Transverse Myelitis> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Sjogren's Syndrome> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Lyme> >>> >> >>

>>> >> > > Brucellosis> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Myasthenia Gravis> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Fibromyalgia> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > HTLV1 and 2> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Devics Disease> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Celiac> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > B-12 deficiency> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Thyroid> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Syphilis> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Vascular Disease> >>> >> >> >>> >> >

> Connective Tissue Disease> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > hugs))> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Sharon> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > This email is a natural hand made product.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its> >>> >> >> >>> >> > individual character and beauty and in no way are to be> > considered> >>> >> >> >>> >> > flaws or defects.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > another question> >>> >> >> >>>

>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >>

>>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a> >>> >> >> >>> >> > separate dx on its> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > own?> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know what> >>> >> is> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>>

>> >> >>> >> > > causing it.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then I> >>> >> >> >>> >> > could> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > take these questions to him/her. It is driving me crazy that I> >>> >> can> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >

> not> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > even get an apt.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, AL (3.5> >>> >> >> >>> >> > hours> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I> > called> >>> >> >> >>>

>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems doing> >>> >> >> >>> >> > so.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in> >>> >> Birmingham,> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Al?> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >>

>>> >> > > I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to the> >>> >> apt> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was> > too> >>> >> >> >>> >> > far> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > and that she would make some calls. She calls back later and> >>> >> says> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be> >>>

>> >> >>> >> > months.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Would I like to be on their waiting list?> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down> > with> >>> >> a> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >>

>>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just> > wanting> >>> >> >> >>> >> > the> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all have> >>> >> >> >>> >> > been> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have> >>> >> >> >>> >> > Peripheral> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? From the> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > pamphlett> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is Periphal> >>> >>

>> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Thanks for you patience.> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > Donna (MS)> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>

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August 25, 2007

Maybe because I told him that I spend soooooooo much time at the computer.. It was a chiro, and he was adjusting my wrists.. and my shoulders... But my pinkie fingers were the first to go numb... now every finger on my left hand is numb to an extent, and all but the thumb and index finger on my right hand are numb.. I even had an episode where my hands decided they weren't going to work.. well my fingers anyway.. they weren't going to allow me to type or play with my computer..... WRONG!!!!! I did lose some typing speed, and some accuracy, but they were NOT allowed to stop working on me.. They eventually behaved themselves again.. whether I retrained the nerve paths, or the exacerbation went away leaving little damage I have no idea.. As long as I can keep typing, we'll be okay... LOL...

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another question>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Is peripheral neuropathy part of having MS or a>>>> >>>>> > separate dx on its>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > own?>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Doc says I have peripheral neuropathy but he does not know what>>>> is>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > causing it.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > I quess if I could just get an appointment with a Neuro then I>>>> >>>>> > could>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > take these questions to him/her. It is driving me crazy that I>>>> can>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > not>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > even get an apt.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Yet, Last week, I contacted a MS Clinic in Birmingham, AL (3.5>>>> >>>>> > hours>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > away) and they made me an appointment for tomorrow. When I> called>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > back to reschedule it for next week, they had no problems doing>>>> >>>>> > so.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Does anyone know anything about the Tanner MS clinic in>>>> Birmingham,>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Al?>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > I talked to my shrink Friday, she talked me out of going to the>>>> apt>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > they had made for me Tomorrow in Birmingham. She said it was> too>>>> >>>>> > far>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > and that she would make some calls. She calls back later and>>>> says>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > that she tried with the neuro she knows and that it would be>>>> >>>>> > months.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Would I like to be on their waiting list?>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Uhu? I would rather drive 3.5 hours and be able to sit down> with>>>> a>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > list of questions then to sit here and wonder for months.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > In the mean time, I am driving you and myself crazy just> wanting>>>> >>>>> > the>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > answers that I should be asking a neuro. Although, you all have>>>> >>>>> > been>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > very kind and patient with me. And, I thank you so much.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > I quess I will just ask what I am wondering. Could I have>>>> >>>>> > Peripheral>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > neuropathy (and not know the cause) instead of MS? From the>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > pamphlett>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > the Doc gave me, the symptoms look very similar. Is Periphal>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Neruopathy one of those diseases that mimics MS?>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Thanks for you patience.>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > Donna (MS)>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _>>>> >>>>> > ____________ __>>>> >>>>> > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo!> Autos>>>> >>>>> > new Car Finder tool.>>>> >>>>> > > http://autos. yahoo.com/ carfinder/>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _>>>> ____________ __>>>> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.>>>> > http://searchmarket ing.yahoo. com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________> ______________>> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from> someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.>> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list & sid=396545433>>>>>>>

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