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Kate, I am sorry that you are in so much pain but glad it's getting better. Don't worry that you have not been on that much lately because of pain. We all deal with pain and understand completely. Don't worry about your daughter too much. Kids wnat all of your attention and when they don't get all of it they make you feel guilty. It's what all kids do. I think it's programmed in their brain LOL. If being here and conversing with the group members helps you than you should do it. Sometimes families don't understand what you go through like we do so no worries. I am sure your daughter knows that you get the support you need on the internet (this group) and it helps you. I am glad that we are helping you in whatever way we can. Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to have people that understand your condition. Good Luck and God Bless. :)Kate Rothschild wrote: Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard. I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now

that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me. I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should. Good to be back. Missed you all. Love you all, kate

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Kate,

I am so sorry your daughter said that to you.Unless someone has walked in your shoes they have no idea how hard it is.

If being on the computer gives you comfort then so be it. At 19 your daughter is old enough to pitch in and help when you are feeling so poorly.I think you should tell your daughter you feel more comfortable here with us. Maybe there need to be some "attitude adjustments" as my son calls it if our grandkids get out of line. I wish we lived close. I would come and help you out.

If there one thing I learned from my breast cancer, its that for once, we have to put ourselves as the top priority. Now that doesn't mean that you totally ignore the family and run off to an island somewhere. Its just that sometimes the family has to pitch in to make YOUR life easier. I hope I didn't offend you writing this. If so I am sorry. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard.

I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me.

I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should.

Good to be back. Missed you all.

Love you all,

kate

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Kate,

I am so sorry your daughter said that to you.Unless someone has walked in your shoes they have no idea how hard it is.

If being on the computer gives you comfort then so be it. At 19 your daughter is old enough to pitch in and help when you are feeling so poorly.I think you should tell your daughter you feel more comfortable here with us. Maybe there need to be some "attitude adjustments" as my son calls it if our grandkids get out of line. I wish we lived close. I would come and help you out.

If there one thing I learned from my breast cancer, its that for once, we have to put ourselves as the top priority. Now that doesn't mean that you totally ignore the family and run off to an island somewhere. Its just that sometimes the family has to pitch in to make YOUR life easier. I hope I didn't offend you writing this. If so I am sorry. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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hey group

Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard.

I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me.

I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should.

Good to be back. Missed you all.

Love you all,

kate

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It's great to have you back Kate! hugs))Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. hey group

Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard.

I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me.

I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should.

Good to be back. Missed you all.

Love you all,

kate

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Kate~

I'ts really hard to be everything to everybody. I suppose, the key is to try to find a happy medium. My husband never says anything about the amount of time I spend on the 'puter. But, there are times when I know he'd rather I spent time with him. By that, I mean, while he's off duty; sit around and watch t.v. (usually reruns of reruns of reruns {videos}, etc.), playing video games, which I hate, because he can only play for so long without throwing a temper tantrum, or sleeping. Fun, fun. But, on the days when I'm in my own little funk, and don't want to spend time typing all day, I'll get off of here and do something he wants to do. It keeps the peace....

God bless...Val

hey group

Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard.

I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me.

I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should.

Good to be back. Missed you all.

Love you all,

kate

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Kate, I spend a lot of time on the computer too. It's an escape for me. It doesn't take much energy to just move my fingers, and sometimes the fatigue is so bad, I can't do anything else. (((Kate))) Take care of YOU.

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hey group

Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard.

I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me.

I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should.

Good to be back. Missed you all.

Love you all,

kate

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Thanks Sharon...

hey group

Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard.

I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me.

I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should.

Good to be back. Missed you all.

Love you all,

kate

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Hi Kate we have 2 computers and often they are both used. My 17 year has friends he enjoys chatting with from Myspace and he feels like a vulture is behind me waiting for his turn on the computer. My son plays computer games on the other one. I will often tell the boys that I want them to get out of the house and do something elase. I tell today is computer free day and I put myself for my computer free time.

Bill

hey group

Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard.

I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me.

I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should.

Good to be back. Missed you all.

Love you all,

kate

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Good Morning Bill~That's a great idea. Fortunately, or unfortunately, we have...let's see a total of 4 computers: my 19 yr old's laptop--we bought her a MacNotebook for college last yr. my 13 yr old has one in his room, my 15 yr old dtr has one in her room and I have one, but it is for the other 2 kids as well, the 7 and 10 yr old--it is in a pretty common area, the desk in my kitchen. It's nice cause it has one of those flat monitors, not one of the bulky ones, so it doesn't take up too much space on my desk. Right now I'm getting ready for church. Have to be there early, as there was a memorial service this past wk, so we had to put away all our mikes and stands. I'm playing with my Praise Band today. Say a prayer the pain doesn't zing me when I sing! lol! I like the idea of a computer-free day...we could make that game day, and play scrabble or something. Thanks for the idea. love ,kate

Hi Kate we have 2 computers and often they are both used. My 17 year has friends he enjoys chatting with from Myspace and he feels like a vulture is behind me waiting for his turn on the computer. My son plays computer games on the other one. I will often tell the boys that I want them to get out of the house and do something elase. I tell today is computer free day and I put myself for my computer free time.

Bill

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Hi Kate I would love to hear you sing You need to get someone to make a video of you singing and post it on Youtube.

If I could sing Judy and I both enjoy music by Duncan and have seen him several times singing. This song would be one i would sing for my wife Judy. My singing would make my dog howl.

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Good Morning Bill~That's a great idea. Fortunately, or unfortunately, we have...let's see a total of 4 computers: my 19 yr old's laptop--we bought her a MacNotebook for college last yr. my 13 yr old has one in his room, my 15 yr old dtr has one in her room and I have one, but it is for the other 2 kids as well, the 7 and 10 yr old--it is in a pretty common area, the desk in my kitchen. It's nice cause it has one of those flat monitors, not one of the bulky ones, so it doesn't take up too much space on my desk. Right now I'm getting ready for church. Have to be there early, as there was a memorial service this past wk, so we had to put away all our mikes and stands. I'm playing with my Praise Band today. Say a prayer the pain doesn't zing me when I sing! lol! I like the idea of a computer-free day...we could make that game day, and play scrabble or something. Thanks for the idea. love ,kate

Hi Kate we have 2 computers and often they are both used. My 17 year has friends he enjoys chatting with from Myspace and he feels like a vulture is behind me waiting for his turn on the computer. My son plays computer games on the other one. I will often tell the boys that I want them to get out of the house and do something elase. I tell today is computer free day and I put myself for my computer free time.

Bill

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I used to sing all the time to my children and with my children, especially when we were in our big old Suburban going camping or whatever. We had so much fun! I have never fancied myself a good singer though. Now my voice has changed and I am even worse at carrying a tune. When my oldest grandson was just a little bitty guy he was on my lap and I was singing to him. He looked up at me and said "Gramma, would you please stop it?". What a blow to a Gramma's ego! Now I have a 12 y/o grandson who does an exaggerated impression of me singing and it sounds very much like Stapelton as Edith Bunker singing the themesong at the beginning of the show. Anyone remember that one??? It's not a flattering impression from my grandson, let me tell

ya! hugs)Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Re: hey group

Good Morning Bill~That's a great idea. Fortunately, or unfortunately, we have...let's see a total of 4 computers: my 19 yr old's laptop--we bought her a MacNotebook for college last yr. my 13 yr old has one in his room, my 15 yr old dtr has one in her room and I have one, but it is for the other 2 kids as well, the 7 and 10 yr old--it is in a pretty common area, the desk in my kitchen. It's nice cause it has one of those flat monitors, not one of the bulky ones, so it doesn't take up too much space on my desk. Right now I'm getting ready for church. Have to be there early, as there was a memorial service this past wk, so we had to put away all our mikes and stands. I'm playing with my Praise Band today. Say a prayer the pain doesn't zing me when I sing! lol! I like the idea of a computer-free day...we could make that game day, and play scrabble or something. Thanks for the idea. love ,kate

Hi Kate we have 2 computers and often they are both used. My 17 year has friends he enjoys chatting with from Myspace and he feels like a vulture is behind me waiting for his turn on the computer. My son plays computer games on the other one. I will often tell the boys that I want them to get out of the house and do something elase. I tell today is computer free day and I put myself for my computer free time.

Bill

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You sound like a fun grandma.

Bill

Re: hey group

Good Morning Bill~That's a great idea. Fortunately, or unfortunately, we have...let's see a total of 4 computers: my 19 yr old's laptop--we bought her a MacNotebook for college last yr. my 13 yr old has one in his room, my 15 yr old dtr has one in her room and I have one, but it is for the other 2 kids as well, the 7 and 10 yr old--it is in a pretty common area, the desk in my kitchen. It's nice cause it has one of those flat monitors, not one of the bulky ones, so it doesn't take up too much space on my desk. Right now I'm getting ready for church. Have to be there early, as there was a memorial service this past wk, so we had to put away all our mikes and stands. I'm playing with my Praise Band today. Say a prayer the pain doesn't zing me when I sing! lol! I like the idea of a computer-free day...we could make that game day, and play scrabble or something. Thanks for the idea. love ,kate

Hi Kate we have 2 computers and often they are both used. My 17 year has friends he enjoys chatting with from Myspace and he feels like a vulture is behind me waiting for his turn on the computer. My son plays computer games on the other one. I will often tell the boys that I want them to get out of the house and do something elase. I tell today is computer free day and I put myself for my computer free time.

Bill

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Re: hey group

Greetings ! Nice to see you posting! I so appreciate your words here. Yes, I have to remember they are still mere children, just in larger packages! If I could count the # of times I've heard each the 15 and 19 yr old say--well, it was YOUR choice to have 5 kids; or I'm tired of YOUR kids, blah, blah...

Sometimes the only moments of sanity I feel are spent here, writing to you all. I do feel like a lousy mom, many, many times...and I'm not just being hard on myself. I am really not 'rising' to the task that is my God-given duty, and yes, my choice also! I need to be more disciplined with my kids--kids that tell me to shut the hell up; or, 'we're so poor you don't even buy us our own clothes'!--that coming from my 10 yr. old dtr., who gets beautiful, hardly worn, sometimes--designer clothes from her best friend across the street, who is 2 sizes bigger than her! If she needs something, I get it for her...but honestly, I'm so tired of this world where everyone has to have more. She has many more clothes than I do! And shoes! sneakers, sandals. I have 2 pairs of shoes, that's it--sandals and sneakers. Done. Sorry, I'm on a rant now...

Thanks for everything...love to you and blessings galore! kate

Kate,

I am sorry that you are in so much pain but glad it's getting better. Don't worry that you have not been on that much lately because of pain. We all deal with pain and understand completely. Don't worry about your daughter too much. Kids wnat all of your attention and when they don't get all of it they make you feel guilty. It's what all kids do. I think it's programmed in their brain LOL. If being here and conversing with the group members helps you than you should do it. Sometimes families don't understand what you go through like we do so no worries. I am sure your daughter knows that you get the support you need on the internet (this group) and it helps you. I am glad that we are helping you in whatever way we can. Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to have people that understand your condition. Good Luck and God Bless.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSersLife/

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Welcome back Sweet Kate. Akiba -- hey group Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate, 48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very, very hard. I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day #6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat diminished, though still with me. I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on the computer more than I interact with my family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware of that, and that while she was away at college, I promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and support here, and on the internet than I do most times with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I should. Good to be back. Missed you all. Love you all, kate

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Hey Kate! Im so glad your back! I have missed you

lotssss!! I am so sorry you are in so much pain. I

have been praying for you. I know how much you must be

hurting and how hard it must be to care for your

family and yourself. Kids can be very selfish and

sometimes not even knowing it. You have the right to

be werever you choose whenever you want. Remember that

k. We all know how hard you work at home. I wish they

all could see that,even when you arnt feeling well you

continue on. And that takes alot of strength and

courage. I get the same from my fam. Your always on

your phone online blah blah blah. Lol. The last time

my sis said sumthn I said they are like my family and

they need me as I need them. And I wish I could be on

more! Lol. She says. O. Lol. She didnt know what to

say. Lol. DO whatever makes you feel less pain and if

its here with us then stay as long as you want and let

what they say go in one ear and out the other jus like

they do with you. Lol. I hope you feel better soon.

Luv ya!

cassy

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wrote:

> Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate,

48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very,

very hard.

> I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also a

member, also suffer from tic douloreux--horrible

affliction! I've been lurking and reading and not too

much here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day

#6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhat

diminished, though still with me.

> I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yr

old that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm on

the computer more than I interact with my

family...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am aware

of that, and that while she was away at college, I

promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I think

I've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working on

it. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort and

support here, and on the internet than I do most times

with my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe I

should.

> Good to be back. Missed you all.

> Love you all,

> kate

>

>

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This raising of kids is always problematical, hard work, and when adolescence

even looms on the horizon (no later than age 11, usually) things DO get contro

versial. My husband was a teacher in an eara when teachers were (as they still

are) the lowest paid professionals with degrees, even advanced degrees, in all

the professions. At the time I was a non-profit executive director and neuro

psychologist--occupations that would pay what I regard as a fortune today,

but certainly did not when I was working. So, we did much of what

describes in order to meet our kids' needs. It did not ever occur to us to

let them know that WE were making many of the same sacrifices that they

perceived themselves to have inflicted upon them.

In our family, this all turned out well, for a variety of reasons:

1) the kids did actually grow up, and become legal adults, and left home;

2) they married or partnered and each of them has four kids;

3) they now have some idea, on hugely larger incomes than ours, what it

takes in today's world, to raise the kids;

4) Oddly, and it is music to my ears, I hear the same moans and groans from

them that I used to experience between Hans and me, so long ago;

5) My kids (I am no kid, after all) now have grandchildren, and their own

kids are now moaning about how difficult it is to meet the nees of the

grandchildren;

6) Through it all, we are all, somehow, still speaking!

7) My own children work nearly 1.75 times the number of hours that I ever

worked in my complex career;

8) My children are now absolutely appalled at how many hours THEIR chil

dren seem to have to work, monetary reimbursement aside!

9) I hear endless complaints (valid, I might add) about "Why cannot our

kids and grandkids get the same good medical care that YOU and Papa

got for us?"

There can be NO doubt about it; reality has set in, as it will for most "kids."

Love to and to Kate, and to all of you coping with rearing children,

living with adult children, rearing the grandchildren--the whole soccer field,

n, who, perhaps fortunately, is still able to live alone and have one

"significant other" who is a terrific guy--I am widowed.

P.S. Hey, NO links!

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Greetings ! Nice to see you posting! I so appreciate your words here. Yes, I have to remember they are still mere children, just in larger packages! If I could count the # of times I've heard each the 15 and 19 yr old say--well, it was YOUR choice to have 5 kids; or I'm tired of YOUR kids, blah, blah...

Sometimes the only moments of sanity I feel are spent here, writing to you all. I do feel like a lousy mom, many, many times...and I'm not just being hard on myself. I am really not 'rising' to the task that is my God-given duty, and yes, my choice also! I need to be more disciplined with my kids--kids that tell me to shut the hell up; or, 'we're so poor you don't even buy us our own clothes'!--that coming from my 10 yr. old dtr., who gets beautiful, hardly worn, sometimes--designer clothes from her best friend across the street, who is 2 sizes bigger than her! If she needs something, I get it for her...but honestly, I'm so tired of this world where everyone has to have more. She has many more clothes than I do! And shoes! sneakers, sandals. I have 2 pairs of shoes, that's it--sandals and sneakers. Done. Sorry, I'm on a rant now...

Thanks for everything...love to you and blessings galore! kate

Kate,

I am sorry that you are in so much pain but glad it's getting better. Don't worry that you have not been on that much lately because of pain. We all deal with pain and understand completely. Don't worry about your daughter too much. Kids wnat all of your attention and when they don't get all of it they make you feel guilty. It's what all kids do. I think it's programmed in their brain LOL. If being here and conversing with the group members helps you than you should do it. Sometimes families don't understand what you go through like we do so no worries. I am sure your daughter knows that you get the support you need on the internet (this group) and it helps you. I am glad that we are helping you in whatever way we can. Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to have people that understand your condition. Good Luck and God Bless.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSersLife/

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What Cassy said, times about 300!

love to you all,

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Hey Kate! Im so glad your back! I have missed youlotssss!! I am so sorry you are in so much pain. Ihave been praying for you. I know how much you must behurting and how hard it must be to care for yourfamily and yourself. Kids can be very selfish andsometimes not even knowing it. You have the right tobe werever you choose whenever you want. Remember thatk. We all know how hard you work at home. I wish theyall could see that,even when you arnt feeling well youcontinue on. And that takes alot of strength andcourage. I get the same from my fam. Your always onyour phone online blah blah blah. Lol. The last timemy sis said sumthn I said they are like my family andthey need me as I need them. And I wish I could be onmore! Lol. She says. O. Lol. She didnt know what tosay. Lol. DO whatever makes you feel less pain and ifits here with us then stay as long as you want and letwhat they say go in one ear and out the other j

us likethey do with you. Lol. I hope you feel better soon.Luv ya!cassy--- MSersLife <katelloydkidzoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:> Hi all! Welcome dear Helen to the group! I'm Kate,48, 5 kids, hub who is a stage hand and works very,very hard.> I, like Sharon, and our own dear Kathi who is also amember, also suffer from tic douloreux--horribleaffliction! I've been lurking and reading and not toomuch here due to my level of pain. Now that I'm on day#6 of my Medrol pack (last day), my pain has somewhatdiminished, though still with me. > I have missed you all. I was accused by my 19 yrold that being a mom is a 24 hr a day job, and I'm onthe computer more than I interact with myfamily...Well, that hurt. I told her that I am awareof that, and that while she was away at college, I

promised myself that I wouldn't be on as much. I thinkI've reduced my puter 'mode'. I am still working onit. I have to admit...I feel a lot more comfort andsupport here, and on the internet than I do most timeswith my family. I didn't tell her that...Maybe Ishould.> Good to be back. Missed you all.> Love you all,> kate> > __________________________________________________________Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/

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Kate~

I would just LOVE on of my kids try to tell me where as. That is one thing I never did or would tolerate. One of my twins, when she was 8 thought she was "grown" and called me out of my name, and tried to hit me. That unfortunately for her, was a BIG mistake. I let her know that no matter how big she thought she was or how grown she thought she was, she will never be too big for me to bust her butt.

While I was growing, one of the biggest lessons that was taught to me was, always respect your elders. And I strove to make sure I passed it down to my children. And you never never never, disrespect your parents.

My youngest daughter once told me, "You never liked kids anyway." (I've probably mentioned this once or twice before.) I told her, If I never liked children, she'd still just be a twinkle in her daddy's eye.

And yes, it may have been your choice to have 5 children...But, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? You certainly didn't choose to have 5 children to treat you disrespectfully.

Don't let your children get to you, because you can't get them everything they want. Wants and needs are two different things. My children used to pull the, "Everybody else has one!" or "Everybody else is doing it." statements out all the time. Well, we all know that everybody doesn't do it, or have one.

Rant, rave, groan, moan all you want to. We've got your back.

Love and blessings...Val

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Greetings ! Nice to see you posting! I so appreciate your words here. Yes, I have to remember they are still mere children, just in larger packages! If I could count the # of times I've heard each the 15 and 19 yr old say--well, it was YOUR choice to have 5 kids; or I'm tired of YOUR kids, blah, blah...

Sometimes the only moments of sanity I feel are spent here, writing to you all. I do feel like a lousy mom, many, many times...and I'm not just being hard on myself. I am really not 'rising' to the task that is my God-given duty, and yes, my choice also! I need to be more disciplined with my kids--kids that tell me to shut the hell up; or, 'we're so poor you don't even buy us our own clothes'!--that coming from my 10 yr. old dtr., who gets beautiful, hardly worn, sometimes--designer clothes from her best friend across the street, who is 2 sizes bigger than her! If she needs something, I get it for her...but honestly, I'm so tired of this world where everyone has to have more. She has many more clothes than I do! And shoes! sneakers, sandals. I have 2 pairs of shoes, that's it--sandals and sneakers. Done. Sorry, I'm on a rant now...

Thanks for everything...love to you and blessings galore! kate

Kate,

I am sorry that you are in so much pain but glad it's getting better. Don't worry that you have not been on that much lately because of pain. We all deal with pain and understand completely. Don't worry about your daughter too much. Kids wnat all of your attention and when they don't get all of it they make you feel guilty. It's what all kids do. I think it's programmed in their brain LOL. If being here and conversing with the group members helps you than you should do it. Sometimes families don't understand what you go through like we do so no worries. I am sure your daughter knows that you get the support you need on the internet (this group) and it helps you. I am glad that we are helping you in whatever way we can. Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to have people that understand your condition. Good Luck and God Bless.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSersLife/

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Thanks Bill. I hope I'm remembered that way but I feel I need to work on it. Once we are all back living in the same community (soon I hope I will be able to be around Challis' kids more. The problem with living with my son's 4 children is I don't get to be just the happy, doting grandmother because I am often the "cop" because I take care of the kids when mom and dad are working. When mom and dad are home the kids still come to me with their problems and fights. I always tell them "Your mom and dad are here--I'm off duty!" lolhugs))Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar

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Good Morning Bill~That's a great idea. Fortunately, or unfortunately, we have...let's see a total of 4 computers: my 19 yr old's laptop--we bought her a MacNotebook for college last yr. my 13 yr old has one in his room, my 15 yr old dtr has one in her room and I have one, but it is for the other 2 kids as well, the 7 and 10 yr old--it is in a pretty common area, the desk in my kitchen. It's nice cause it has one of those flat monitors, not one of the bulky ones, so it doesn't take up too much space on my desk. Right now I'm getting ready for church. Have to be there early, as there was a memorial service this past wk, so we had to put away all our mikes and stands. I'm playing with my Praise Band today. Say a prayer the pain doesn't zing me when I sing! lol! I like the idea of a computer-free day...we could make that game day, and play scrabble or something. Thanks for the idea. love ,kate

Hi Kate we have 2 computers and often they are both used. My 17 year has friends he enjoys chatting with from Myspace and he feels like a vulture is behind me waiting for his turn on the computer. My son plays computer games on the other one. I will often tell the boys that I want them to get out of the house and do something elase. I tell today is computer free day and I put myself for my computer free time.

Bill

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LOLOL Kate! You don't EVEN want to get me started on this subject! I have very strong opinions on the whole subject. I think that's my roots showing. And I don't mean my hair roots because I don't dye my hair. lol I mean my roots in the 60s. Like I said, don't get me started. :)My favorite thing is to buy clothes from the thrift store. And I try to buy as much of the other things I need from the thrift store, too. It's not only because I'm cheap but because I really do believe in saving the environment. I feel good because I'm keeping all those things from going to the landfill. Buying used is the ultimate in recycling. hugs to youSharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Re: hey group

Greetings ! Nice to see you posting! I so appreciate your words here. Yes, I have to remember they are still mere children, just in larger packages! If I could count the # of times I've heard each the 15 and 19 yr old say--well, it was YOUR choice to have 5 kids; or I'm tired of YOUR kids, blah, blah...

Sometimes the only moments of sanity I feel are spent here, writing to you all. I do feel like a lousy mom, many, many times...and I'm not just being hard on myself. I am really not 'rising' to the task that is my God-given duty, and yes, my choice also! I need to be more disciplined with my kids--kids that tell me to shut the hell up; or, 'we're so poor you don't even buy us our own clothes'!--that coming from my 10 yr. old dtr., who gets beautiful, hardly worn, sometimes--designer clothes from her best friend across the street, who is 2 sizes bigger than her! If she needs something, I get it for her...but honestly, I'm so tired of this world where everyone has to have more. She has many more clothes than I do! And shoes! sneakers, sandals. I have 2 pairs of shoes, that's it--sandals and sneakers. Done. Sorry, I'm on a rant now...

Thanks for everything.. .love to you and blessings galore! kate

Kate,

I am sorry that you are in so much pain but glad it's getting better. Don't worry that you have not been on that much lately because of pain. We all deal with pain and understand completely. Don't worry about your daughter too much. Kids wnat all of your attention and when they don't get all of it they make you feel guilty. It's what all kids do. I think it's programmed in their brain LOL. If being here and conversing with the group members helps you than you should do it. Sometimes families don't understand what you go through like we do so no worries. I am sure your daughter knows that you get the support you need on the internet (this group) and it helps you. I am glad that we are helping you in whatever way we can. Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to have people that understand your condition. Good Luck and God Bless.

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MSersLife/

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I agree with you on this Val. Our sons are both over 6 ft. Actually 6 ft 4 and 6 ft 3. I always tease the one next door and get him by his shirt and say don't think because you are bigger than me that I can't beat the s--t out of you!!!! LOL He looks at me, smiles and walks away. He used to take and pat me on the head! He knows I am teasing and he knows he best not EVER try to be disrespectful no matter his age. Hes 39 :-)

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Greetings ! Nice to see you posting! I so appreciate your words here. Yes, I have to remember they are still mere children, just in larger packages! If I could count the # of times I've heard each the 15 and 19 yr old say--well, it was YOUR choice to have 5 kids; or I'm tired of YOUR kids, blah, blah...

Sometimes the only moments of sanity I feel are spent here, writing to you all. I do feel like a lousy mom, many, many times...and I'm not just being hard on myself. I am really not 'rising' to the task that is my God-given duty, and yes, my choice also! I need to be more disciplined with my kids--kids that tell me to shut the hell up; or, 'we're so poor you don't even buy us our own clothes'!--that coming from my 10 yr. old dtr., who gets beautiful, hardly worn, sometimes--designer clothes from her best friend across the street, who is 2 sizes bigger than her! If she needs something, I get it for her...but honestly, I'm so tired of this world where everyone has to have more. She has many more clothes than I do! And shoes! sneakers, sandals. I have 2 pairs of shoes, that's it--sandals and sneakers. Done. Sorry, I'm on a rant now...

Thanks for everything...love to you and blessings galore! kate

Kate,

I am sorry that you are in so much pain but glad it's getting better. Don't worry that you have not been on that much lately because of pain. We all deal with pain and understand completely. Don't worry about your daughter too much. Kids wnat all of your attention and when they don't get all of it they make you feel guilty. It's what all kids do. I think it's programmed in their brain LOL. If being here and conversing with the group members helps you than you should do it. Sometimes families don't understand what you go through like we do so no worries. I am sure your daughter knows that you get the support you need on the internet (this group) and it helps you. I am glad that we are helping you in whatever way we can. Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to have people that understand your condition. Good Luck and God Bless.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSersLife/

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You're so funny, Sharon! You really crack me up! The funny thing is--the stuff my daughter gets, I'm not even paying for--the neighbor's dtr. can't fit in it anymore--she's been growing like a wildflower for the last 2 yrs, and it is OUR good fortune! She just gives us stuff! Sandals! Shoes! Skirts, tops, shorts, jeans! And I mean real NICE stuff--not sure how they afford all the stuff they get. But when it's given to my dtr., maybe it's been worn 1/2 dozen times. I don't think we've ever gotten anything

worn out looking either! Then....my dtr. doesn't know this yet. a woman from church who has an extremely 'petite' dtr.--she is not even close to 5 feet, and she is going into 7th grade! They are small people--but their other dtr. is like a bean pole! lol! Anyway, , my friend, asks me--what size is ? I say 8/10 or 10/12--and she gushes--OH! I have a LOT of clothes for her! (I'm thinking--Oh No! Someone else with clothes-- is REALLY gonna accuse me of NOT buying her clothes! LOL! rofl!)~Love you Sharon...and the way you weave a story! ROFLMBO! love you~kate

LOLOL Kate! You don't EVEN want to get me started on this subject! I have very strong opinions on the whole subject. I think that's my roots showing. And I don't mean my hair roots because I don't dye my hair. lol I mean my roots in the 60s. Like I said, don't get me started. :)My favorite thing is to buy clothes from the thrift store. And I try to buy as much of the other things I need from the thrift store, too. It's not only because I'm cheap but because I really do believe in saving the environment. I feel good because I'm keeping all those things from going to the landfill. Buying used is the ultimate in recycling. hugs to youSharon

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Bill, I'm trying to figure out if I can send an audio file to the group site, as opposed to just sending it in an email. I tried sending Sharon an audio file when it was her birthday; I sang an untraditional 'happy birthday', lovely song that Tom Chapin sings, but she said she couldn't open it...So...I'm scratching my head, but maybe one day, I'll figure it out, and be able to post it on the group site. love to you! rofl! about your dog! you're too funny! kate

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Hi Kate I would love to hear you sing You need to get someone to make a video of you singing and post it on Youtube.

If I could sing Judy and I both enjoy music by Duncan and have seen him several times singing. This song would be one i would sing for my wife Judy. My singing would make my dog howl.

Bill

Duncan - All My Life

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Hi Kate if you still have that file send it to me it may need a kind of media player that some may not have on their computer.

Bill

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Hi Kate I would love to hear you sing You need to get someone to make a video of you singing and post it on Youtube.

If I could sing Judy and I both enjoy music by Duncan and have seen him several times singing. This song would be one i would sing for my wife Judy. My singing would make my dog howl.

Bill

Duncan - All My Life

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Hi Kate I work our church web page and I have a lot of audio on it. The church put their Sunday message on the web for church members. It was made for guys serving in Iraq and Afghanistan to make use of if they have the time.

Bill

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Hi Kate I would love to hear you sing You need to get someone to make a video of you singing and post it on Youtube.

If I could sing Judy and I both enjoy music by Duncan and have seen him several times singing. This song would be one i would sing for my wife Judy. My singing would make my dog howl.

Bill

Duncan - All My Life

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