Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 bonesave From Carol in Hong Kong I have posted loads of times and had one or no replies. I need support too. I feel a bit left out because you are all going to the same guys and I am so happy for those of you who have made contact and will be able to support each other in Ghent. I am having my resurfacing, hopefully (osteoporosis will decide) on July 1st with Mr Grigoris in Scotland. (Do any of you know where that is? I think USA dominates our support group, but I'll bet loads of you have a ish bit in you!! Just look under your kilts!) Trudy already pointed me in the direction of Amstutz and Griogris' paper which gave me hope, but tonight from his secretary, in response to my enquiry, I learn that he uses the BONESAVE implant. In my 10 weeks of surfing I have never heard of any BONESAVE implant. Please, somebody, reassure me that it is a brand name for one of our three well known implants. IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO KNOWS GRIGORIS OR HCI INTERNATIONAL CLYDEBANK SCOTLAND?? This group has been a mine of information for me but with impending op and no reply to my previous posts, I really need some friends. carol hong kong From I lived the my first 21 years at Loch lomond which is about 12 miles from Clydebank a great place to relax for a few days after your op. I do not know of the hospital and your doctor Griogis resurfaced a chap called Kinnon in Glasgow who used to post on this site he may be able to assist you with info on the doctor I guess that some of his messages will be in the archives i know he was resurfaced in 01 maybe around August. Hope this helps _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 At 02:35 PM 6/13/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Trudy already pointed me in the direction of Amstutz and Griogris' paper >which gave me hope, but tonight from his secretary, in response to my >enquiry, I learn that he uses the BONESAVE implant. In my 10 weeks of >surfing I have never heard of any BONESAVE implant. Please, somebody, >reassure me that it is a brand name for one of our three well known >implants. > >ICarol, The only thing I could find on Bonesave is a ceramic alternative for bone grafting (google search). I would try to find out who the manufacturer of the implant is, and check their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Carol, Wish I could provide some info, but I personally have never heard of that particular device, or the Doctor. Sorry... ---Dan bonesave > From Carol in Hong Kong > > I have posted loads of times and had one or no replies. I need support too. > > > I feel a bit left out because you are all going to the same guys and I am so > happy for those of you who have made contact and will be able to support > each other in Ghent. > > I am having my resurfacing, hopefully (osteoporosis will decide) on July 1st > with Mr Grigoris in Scotland. (Do any of you know where that is? I think > USA dominates our support group, but I'll bet loads of you have a ish > bit in you!! Just look under your kilts!) > > Trudy already pointed me in the direction of Amstutz and Griogris' paper > which gave me hope, but tonight from his secretary, in response to my > enquiry, I learn that he uses the BONESAVE implant. In my 10 weeks of > surfing I have never heard of any BONESAVE implant. Please, somebody, > reassure me that it is a brand name for one of our three well known > implants. > > IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO KNOWS GRIGORIS OR HCI INTERNATIONAL CLYDEBANK > SCOTLAND?? > > This group has been a mine of information for me but with impending op and > no reply to my previous posts, I really need some friends. > > carol > hong kong > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 >>From Carol in Hong Kong > >I have posted loads of times and had one or no replies. I need support too. > > Friends you've got! The best I was able to find was a really brief description in http://www.scientific.net/html/0-87849-889-3_417.html which says that bonesave is an alternative artificial (ceramic) bone graft. Can't always tell from a web search, but this looks reasonable. You should call the good doctor and ask point blank what it is and what its relationship to a resurfacing is. I suspect that this will be put someplace you don't have good bone stock before they resurface. Being comfortable with your choice is essential and it is clear to me that you are a bit upset, so please chat with your osteopath. You should discuss the various strategies for getting around bad bone stock. The bottom line will be that he won't know 'til he has a look-see, but you'll feel better. I had fairly poor bone stock which required I thump around with canes and crutches for several months. You should be prepared for that. (No long term effect and I'm happy as a clam with the result.) Also, once you can load the hip right, you should start to deposit calcium again, so with any luck your osteoporosis should ebb. " Drink your Horlicks! " as your Mum would say. > Good Luck! -- Jeff (who's of Irish extraction, like you, for what it's worth) >I feel a bit left out because you are all going to the same guys and I am so >happy for those of you who have made contact and will be able to support >each other in Ghent. > >I am having my resurfacing, hopefully (osteoporosis will decide) on July 1st >with Mr Grigoris in Scotland. (Do any of you know where that is? I think >USA dominates our support group, but I'll bet loads of you have a ish >bit in you!! Just look under your kilts!) > >Trudy already pointed me in the direction of Amstutz and Griogris' paper >which gave me hope, but tonight from his secretary, in response to my >enquiry, I learn that he uses the BONESAVE implant. In my 10 weeks of >surfing I have never heard of any BONESAVE implant. Please, somebody, >reassure me that it is a brand name for one of our three well known >implants. > >IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO KNOWS GRIGORIS OR HCI INTERNATIONAL CLYDEBANK >SCOTLAND?? > >This group has been a mine of information for me but with impending op and >no reply to my previous posts, I really need some friends. > >carol >hong kong > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Dear Carol, Did you see the message form Barbara King (May 26 post 7247)? She apparently had her operation 6weeks previously and was very pleased with the results. I agree that you must contact the hospital about the bonesave device and any other worries you may have - I'm sure they will be able to put your mind at rest. Please don't feel left out - I've been thinking about you!!( I only got 2 replies when I asked for info about Mr McMinn - it just depends who's out there at the time!) I assume Scotland is your homeland? I know it, and Glasgow quite well - my best friend used to live down the coast at Fairlie. Will you be spending time there after the op? ( At least you'll be able to speak the language!!) Hope all your other preparations are going well With best wishes, Stella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 HI RONNIE THE TERM BONESAVER IS AN OLD NAME FOR HIP RESUFACING AND IS STILL SOMETIMES USED. THE PRECISE TYPE (BHR etc.) WILL BE DOWN TO YOUR SURGEON BEST WISHES ROG bonesave From Carol in Hong Kong I have posted loads of times and had one or no replies. I need support too. I feel a bit left out because you are all going to the same guys and I am so happy for those of you who have made contact and will be able to support each other in Ghent. I am having my resurfacing, hopefully (osteoporosis will decide) on July 1st with Mr Grigoris in Scotland. (Do any of you know where that is? I think USA dominates our support group, but I'll bet loads of you have a ish bit in you!! Just look under your kilts!) Trudy already pointed me in the direction of Amstutz and Griogris' paper which gave me hope, but tonight from his secretary, in response to my enquiry, I learn that he uses the BONESAVE implant. In my 10 weeks of surfing I have never heard of any BONESAVE implant. Please, somebody, reassure me that it is a brand name for one of our three well known implants. IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO KNOWS GRIGORIS OR HCI INTERNATIONAL CLYDEBANK SCOTLAND?? This group has been a mine of information for me but with impending op and no reply to my previous posts, I really need some friends. carol hong kong _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 HI CAROL The swiss device you mention is fitted in the UK. All devices fitted in the UK are subject to follow ups from the " Outcome Centre " . If you log on to www.outcomecentre.com and look at the Joint Replacement Information. You'll find it listed there with some information and an Xray showing the device fitted. The " Outcome Centre " is attached to the Oswestry ' & Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital' and is an NHS organisation looking at results from the Private and State medicine in the UK and elsewhere. The text below is copied from their site and lists their aims: Our Aims: 1. To provide evidence of expertise in the field of major joint arthroplasty. 2. To enable us to plot an individuals progress against a standard survival curve in order to ascertain how well they are doing. 3. To identify problems or benefits of each type of prosthesis. Dear Patients, The Oswestry Outcome Centre is an organisation dedicated to the the collection of clinical data and assessment of major planned operations. They will be assigned the task of assessing the outcome of your planned operation. Your surgeons is keen for us to collect information on the details of the operation, in order to provide information on how well the hips works. I have developed this centre with the help of the Institute of Orthopaedics, a charity dedicated to improve the care of arthirtus through research and teaching young surgeons. The information related to the outcome of the BHR implant has been possible by a major effort from MMT, the Oswestry Outcome Centre, surgeons all around the world and most importantly, previously patients. Previous patients have volunteered to enter the outcome study and fill in and return the Oswestry Score Questionnaires thus providing extremely valuable information for surgeon education and decision making. While we very much want every patient to enter this ongoing study, we do point out that your participation is voluntary and you may of course decide, after discussion with your surgeon, not to enter. If you do undertake to help us, it is most important we can keep in touch with you on a yearly basis over the ten years following your hip replacement, and that you tell us of any difficulties or revisions your hip may have. The information that follows is designed to help you understand the treatment you are about to receive. I hope you will find it useful. Yours Sincerely, Professor of Orthopaedics.. --- Original Message ----- From: Ronnie Ford To: surfacehippy Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: bonesave Carol from Hong Kong Mr. Grigoris has informed me that BoneSave is a metal-on-metal device made by Sulzer (Swiss technology). He states that Sulzer has the most advanced metal-on-metal technology in his opinion. He will back that up with a Metasul THR if my bone stock proves not to be good enough. I heave a sigh of relief, though I must admit I did not find the brand name on the Sulzer site. I reckon it must have a diferent product name in Britain. BAck 0n track again - thanks to all who reassured me and offered advice. carol _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 Hi Trudy I sent Carol some info on the Swiss device - please refer to that if you want any info. Rog Re: bonesave > Carol from Hong Kong > > Mr. Grigoris has informed me that BoneSave is a metal-on-metal device made > by Sulzer (Swiss technology). He states that Sulzer has the most advanced > metal-on-metal technology in his opinion. > carol, I am so glad you finally found out what the bonesave is! I went to the Sulzer site and couldn't find it either so it must be fairly new to the market. That doesn't mean that Grigoris is new to it though... Every OS has their favorite devices for different reasons. Considering how long Dr. Grigoris has been studying this whole thing I'm sure he is completely " up " on everything unlike many OS' in the US. So enter another device to this group. You must be sure to let us know how it all goes and what particulars you can find out about the Sulzer. A brochure would be nice, ie what kind of ingrowth, method of production etc.... but Grigoris' own reasons for using it would be even better! Best of everything to you in your upcoming trip and surgery. I will be looking forward to hearing from you when you are up to posting again! Trudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Sorry, there are no pictures available of my Bonesave and Mr. Grigoris has hung on to my x-rays for the study. Have to wait till the official release in November. Mr. Grigoris is in Glasgow in Scotland. I can supply contact nos if you are interested, Lynda. High heels - like those who are sacrificing running for the life of their hip, I am quite prepared to wear flats for the rest of life, with cushioning if possible, in order to prolong the life of my hip. carol ford _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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