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Hi Dawn

You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively worse

ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past 3 years I

often needed a pain killer as at

times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain at all.

I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only diagnosed

this year, but I am sure I've had it

for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I have no

ovulation pain at all.

What about others??

Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

Cheers

Caroline

dawn rose wrote:

> Hey Debbie,

> Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

> irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period... in fact,

> during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and more

> painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period and then

> about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is hard to

> distinguish it all from PMS.

> DAWN

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Hi Caroline-

I have a lot of pain when I'm hypothyroid. As soon as I'm normal, it goes

away.

I was very young when I was hyperthyroid and it was only for 6 months but I

didn't have pain then. Maybe it takes a while.

Take care,

Re: worse b4 period

> Hi Dawn

>

> You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively worse

ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

> Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past 3

years I often needed a pain killer as at

> times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

>

> I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain at

all.

>

> I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only

diagnosed this year, but I am sure I've had it

> for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I

have no ovulation pain at all.

>

> What about others??

>

> Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

>

> Cheers

> Caroline

>

> dawn rose wrote:

>

> > Hey Debbie,

> > Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

> > irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period... in

fact,

> > during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and more

> > painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period and

then

> > about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is hard

to

> > distinguish it all from PMS.

> > DAWN

> >

____________________________________________________________________________

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> >

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intended to replace expert medical care.

> > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > ----------------------------------------

>

>

>

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Greetings all,

I'm convinced that thyroid problems mean elevated symptoms before your

period. When my thyroid levels were on their way down from hyper, I also

took a big " hyper " surge the ten days before my period: my heart rate would

increase, tension, diarrhea, stomach cramps, weight loss. The minute I got

my period, I'd gain back the three pounds I'd lost and all the others would

subside. I've been in remission with normal thyroid levels for nearly a

year and still have this experience--I can eat more and drop a couple of

pounds before my period, go right back to my regular weight for the two

weeks after my period and then drop again, heart rate increases, more

stomach complaints etc.

My TSH has fluctuated quite a bit in the past year and I think my body is

still stabilizing -- the problems are more pronounced when my TSH is around

1 and when it's near 2 I'm better.

Re: worse b4 period

> Hi Dawn

>

> You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively worse

ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

> Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past 3

years I often needed a pain killer as at

> times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

>

> I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain at

all.

>

> I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only

diagnosed this year, but I am sure I've had it

> for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I

have no ovulation pain at all.

>

> What about others??

>

> Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

>

> Cheers

> Caroline

>

> dawn rose wrote:

>

> > Hey Debbie,

> > Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

> > irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period... in

fact,

> > during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and more

> > painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period and

then

> > about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is hard

to

> > distinguish it all from PMS.

> > DAWN

> >

____________________________________________________________________________

_________

> > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :

http://explorer.msn.com

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------

> > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

intended to replace expert medical care.

> > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > ----------------------------------------

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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Dawn and Caroline,

I've had ovulation pain so bad it was all I could do to walk. I've been in

remission since July, the pain hasn't completely gone away, but it is easier

to deal with. It used to be I couldn't stand, sit, lay down and was

literally unable to sleep I was so uncomfortable. My ovulation pain started

in my teens and I questioned the doctor about it several times. Never was

told what it was until I brought it up to my first ob/gyn, who laughed and

said " well at least I know your ovulating. " Which I only brought it up to

him because my husband and I were taking marriage classes through the

catholic church. I try to take B-complex everyday, but don't always it

don't agree with my stomach. That has seemed to help with the symptoms. I

have to take it at night, and sometimes I am so tired when I go to bed I

forget. I've had a hard time believing I've been in remission, I am off the

medication, but there are days I feel I need it. Just because the labs say I

am normal, I certainly have days I don't. But, being I just turned 44 who

knows if some things have changed because of perimenopause. I need to get

it checked when I go to the doctor. Which I am still deciding who to go to.

I am seriously thinking of going to my primary care giver, which I haven't

had to use for three years, since I've been healthy.

Sounds to me like this could be a graves thing or thyroid problems. I never

had a weight problem until after having my first two and the graves disease

thing. But, when I was younger in my teens and early twenties if I had 5 or

10 lbs. to lose it was a struggle. Did anyone else with graves have this

problem before being diagnosed?

Debbie R.

>

> Reply-To: graves_supportegroups

> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 22:04:10 +1100

> To: graves_supportegroups

> Subject: Re: worse b4 period

>

> Hi Dawn

>

> You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively worse

> ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

> Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past 3 years

> I often needed a pain killer as at

> times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

>

> I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain at all.

>

> I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only diagnosed

> this year, but I am sure I've had it

> for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I have no

> ovulation pain at all.

>

> What about others??

>

> Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

>

> Cheers

> Caroline

>

> dawn rose wrote:

>

>> Hey Debbie,

>> Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

>> irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period... in fact,

>> during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and more

>> painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period and then

>> about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is hard to

>> distinguish it all from PMS.

>> DAWN

>> _____________________________________________________________________________

>> ________

>> Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

>>

>>

>> -------------------------------------

>> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>> intended to replace expert medical care.

>> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>> ----------------------------------------

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

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I definitely think these symptoms need to go on the list.

Caroline

Riley wrote:

> Dawn and Caroline,

>

> I've had ovulation pain so bad it was all I could do to walk. I've been in

> remission since July, the pain hasn't completely gone away, but it is easier

> to deal with. It used to be I couldn't stand, sit, lay down and was

> literally unable to sleep I was so uncomfortable. My ovulation pain started

> in my teens and I questioned the doctor about it several times. Never was

> told what it was until I brought it up to my first ob/gyn, who laughed and

> said " well at least I know your ovulating. " Which I only brought it up to

> him because my husband and I were taking marriage classes through the

> catholic church. I try to take B-complex everyday, but don't always it

> don't agree with my stomach. That has seemed to help with the symptoms. I

> have to take it at night, and sometimes I am so tired when I go to bed I

> forget. I've had a hard time believing I've been in remission, I am off the

> medication, but there are days I feel I need it. Just because the labs say I

> am normal, I certainly have days I don't. But, being I just turned 44 who

> knows if some things have changed because of perimenopause. I need to get

> it checked when I go to the doctor. Which I am still deciding who to go to.

> I am seriously thinking of going to my primary care giver, which I haven't

> had to use for three years, since I've been healthy.

>

> Sounds to me like this could be a graves thing or thyroid problems. I never

> had a weight problem until after having my first two and the graves disease

> thing. But, when I was younger in my teens and early twenties if I had 5 or

> 10 lbs. to lose it was a struggle. Did anyone else with graves have this

> problem before being diagnosed?

>

> Debbie R.

>

> >

> > Reply-To: graves_supportegroups

> > Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 22:04:10 +1100

> > To: graves_supportegroups

> > Subject: Re: worse b4 period

> >

> > Hi Dawn

> >

> > You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively worse

> > ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

> > Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past 3

years

> > I often needed a pain killer as at

> > times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

> >

> > I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain at

all.

> >

> > I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only

diagnosed

> > this year, but I am sure I've had it

> > for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I have

no

> > ovulation pain at all.

> >

> > What about others??

> >

> > Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

> >

> > Cheers

> > Caroline

> >

> > dawn rose wrote:

> >

> >> Hey Debbie,

> >> Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

> >> irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period... in

fact,

> >> during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and more

> >> painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period and then

> >> about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is hard to

> >> distinguish it all from PMS.

> >> DAWN

> >>

_____________________________________________________________________________

> >> ________

> >> Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :

http://explorer.msn.com

> >>

> >>

> >> -------------------------------------

> >> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> >> intended to replace expert medical care.

> >> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> >> ----------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------

> > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> > intended to replace expert medical care.

> > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > ----------------------------------------

> >

>

>

> -------------------------------------

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intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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Hi

I think it is related. But what to - Graves or Thyroid issues. It is so hard to

determine. I don't really know if my

GD is in remission - I doubt it because it has been too soon. But my thyroid

functions are stable and normal. So I

think it probably more related to thyroid. There is so much that is uncertain in

this disease, yet has a huge effect

on our lives.

If you were young when hyper it may be possible you weren't ovulating properly

then anyway.

I'm so glad to have everyone here to discuss stuff with.

Thanks All,

Cheers

Caroline

Utecht wrote:

> Hi Caroline-

>

> I have a lot of pain when I'm hypothyroid. As soon as I'm normal, it goes

> away.

>

> I was very young when I was hyperthyroid and it was only for 6 months but I

> didn't have pain then. Maybe it takes a while.

>

> Take care,

>

>

> Re: worse b4 period

>

> > Hi Dawn

> >

> > You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively worse

> ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

> > Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past 3

> years I often needed a pain killer as at

> > times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

> >

> > I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain at

> all.

> >

> > I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only

> diagnosed this year, but I am sure I've had it

> > for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I

> have no ovulation pain at all.

> >

> > What about others??

> >

> > Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

> >

> > Cheers

> > Caroline

> >

> > dawn rose wrote:

> >

> > > Hey Debbie,

> > > Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

> > > irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period... in

> fact,

> > > during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and more

> > > painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period and

> then

> > > about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is hard

> to

> > > distinguish it all from PMS.

> > > DAWN

> > >

> ____________________________________________________________________________

> _________

> > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :

> http://explorer.msn.com

> > >

> > >

> > > -------------------------------------

> > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > > ----------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------

> > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > ----------------------------------------

> >

> >

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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Hi Caroline-

I feel like a dunce. I was young, but not that young, when I was hyper

(24). I was on birth control so, of course, I didn't have pain.

I'm pretty much down in the dumps today. I thought the fertility drugs

would work as they did the last time but another month has gone by and no

pregnancy.

I don't know what's wrong. This was supposed to work according to the

doctor. He was sure I'd be pregnant the next time I saw him and that was 3

months ago. They can never really find any problem with me. My ovaries,

even though I've been diagnosed with PCO, are normal and healthy.

Take care,

Re: worse b4 period

> >

> > > Hi Dawn

> > >

> > > You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively

worse

> > ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

> > > Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past

3

> > years I often needed a pain killer as at

> > > times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

> > >

> > > I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain

at

> > all.

> > >

> > > I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only

> > diagnosed this year, but I am sure I've had it

> > > for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I

> > have no ovulation pain at all.

> > >

> > > What about others??

> > >

> > > Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

> > >

> > > Cheers

> > > Caroline

> > >

> > > dawn rose wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hey Debbie,

> > > > Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

> > > > irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period...

in

> > fact,

> > > > during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and

more

> > > > painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period

and

> > then

> > > > about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is

hard

> > to

> > > > distinguish it all from PMS.

> > > > DAWN

> > > >

> >

____________________________________________________________________________

> > _________

> > > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :

> > http://explorer.msn.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------------------

> > > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is

not

> > intended to replace expert medical care.

> > > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > > > ----------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -------------------------------------

> > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is

not

> > intended to replace expert medical care.

> > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > > ----------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------

> > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

intended to replace expert medical care.

> > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > ----------------------------------------

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

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Duly noted, Caroline. I've had a few episodes of cramps so bad I can barely

breathe, but no ovulation pain (may not be ovulating too often now...)

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_supportegroups

> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 22:04:10 +1100

> To: graves_supportegroups

> Subject: Re: worse b4 period

>

> Hi Dawn

>

> You bring up an interesting point. I had been getting progressively worse

> ovulation pain for the last 10 years.

> Since I stopped taking the contraceptive pill (age 29). Over the past 3 years

> I often needed a pain killer as at

> times the pain would be unbearable for about 6 hrs.

>

> I have ovulated twice since my thyroid surgery and I have had no pain at all.

>

> I wonder if it is connected to GD or thyroid problems???? I was only diagnosed

> this year, but I am sure I've had it

> for ages. And it seems strange that the thyroid levels get fixed and I have no

> ovulation pain at all.

>

> What about others??

>

> Terry, - maybe another symptom for your list?

>

> Cheers

> Caroline

>

> dawn rose wrote:

>

>> Hey Debbie,

>> Yep most definitely, I get the same as you... more chest pains, more

>> irritable, more stomach and digestive problems, before my period... in fact,

>> during the two weeks after ovulation (which is becoming more and more

>> painful) my GD symptoms get worse and worse until I get my period and then

>> about 3 days later I start getting relief. It's confusing as it is hard to

>> distinguish it all from PMS.

>> DAWN

>> _____________________________________________________________________________

>> ________

>> Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

>>

>>

>> -------------------------------------

>> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>> intended to replace expert medical care.

>> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>> ----------------------------------------

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

>

>

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