RE: remission rate on pills

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,

I just wanted to tell you how very much I learn from your posts and wanted

to thank you. It amazes me also how different they deal with Graves in

Europe than here in the US. Thanks so much for sharing will all of us.

I am looking forward to the next post you do regarding the Chakras. I am

currently reading the book by Carolyn Myss, Anatomy of the Spirit. It is

slow reading for me because I need to read things over more than once to

grasp the concept but it is beginning to make so much sense to me...why oh

why couldn't I have been learning all of this 25 years ago, how different

some things would be today

*HUGZ*

Jody

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On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:40:06 -0700

Shen wrote

>My new endo gave me these statistics:

>50% of ATD patients go into remission.

>Of the 50% that do not go into remission, or stay in remission, another 50%

>will ultimately go into remission with further meds.

>

>Did I get the numbers wrong? Am I supposed to read " hypothyroid " when he

>said " remission? " If the numbers above are close to correct, seems to me

>I have a very good chance with the meds, since 100% of RAI patients will go

>hypo. Plus, there's always hope for a different treatment around the

>corner.

María,

Statistics I have, mostly from Europe, after therapy with thyroid blockers

show that long-term results are good, and a definitive cure is reached in

60-70% of the cases, as different authors reported. The remaining 30-40%

have a recurrence some months after the treatment has been interrupted,

specially if this has been short-time or irregularly followed by the

patient.

It is accepted here that the longer the treatment is, the highest remission

rate is obtained. However many patients go into cure after a short cycle of

treatment.

For another protocol consisting of adding some T3 to thionamide drugs

(blockers), the remission rate goes up to 96%, in long-term treatment (min.

4 years).

There are two reasons to justify the use of long-term high doses of

anti-thyroid drugs.

1) Their immuno-depressor effect on thyroid originated limphocytes,

producers of thyroid stimulating antibodies.

2) Their abbility to modify the course of Graves' disease, according to what

many data suggest.

Anyway, even a 50% worths having the pills.

<<<...but still does not address the root of the problem -- why did our

autoimmune systems feel obliged to act in the first place?>>>

From " Thyroid solution " , by Dr Ridha Arem:

" Until quite recently, researches were unable to determine conclusively that

stress is a major trigger of Graves' disease. This is ironic because, in the

first cases of Graves' disease ever diagnosed, it was noticed that major

stress had precipitared the cycle " pg 34

" Under stress, the brain emits chemical messages that trigger major

responses of the endocrine system. One such response is the overproduction

of the stress hormone cortisol by the adrenal glands (...) Various organs of

the endocrine system are designed to respond to stress. The responses,

however, occur at the expense of the immune system. (...) The weakening of

the immune system resulting from stress is primarily determined by brain

chemistry, which uses the endocrine system and its chemicals as messengers

(...) The biochemical cascade that links the brain to the immune system is

at the root of how mental stress triggers thyroid imbalance " pg. 30

" The ability of mental stress to trigger an autoimmune attack and affect its

severity is smore clearly established with Graves' disease than with any

other autoimmune condition " pg. 32

Of course, he also quotes that some genetic predisposition is necessary.

Dr. Stoll is giving this same message once and again. That's why he

recommends skilled relaxation and balanced diet to go to the root of the

problem.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for clarifying, . I've been to a total of 4 endo's now and the

recommended duration of med therapy has ranged from 1 yr to 2 yrs.

I have absolutely no problem with continuation of this therapy for even

longer, or combining this therapy with T3 as you mentioned. It is totally

worth it in my book.

>María,

>

>Statistics I have, mostly from Europe, after therapy with thyroid blockers

>show that long-term results are good, and a definitive cure is reached in

>60-70% of the cases, as different authors reported. The remaining 30-40%

>have a recurrence some months after the treatment has been interrupted,

>specially if this has been short-time or irregularly followed by the

>patient.

>

Shen

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