Re: Oh when an old man parties so hard he has to take a day off

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WHAT??????????? Are you OK ??? I am so sorry you are having all this happening. NO MORE PARTY until you are better. Calm conversation.... thats it..Repeat after me.. "NO GETTING SICK"  NOW take Care of YOU.Happy New Year. Feel better. Love and Prayers, Peggy  ipf 6/04 Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." Well, actually not quite my story today. Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired volume was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying hard with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It worked to get me through until today when I could call the pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest x-ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was elevated. I can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv of levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3 days. So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER. 

[Guest guest]

Bruce, that sucks. An ER is no place to recover from a party.

So glad they caught the pneumonia early though. You were smart to

call the Doc. One thing this disease has taught me is to pay better

attention to my body.

Hang tough ol' friend!

Babs in Texas

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> Well, actually not quite my story today.

>

> Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

volume

> was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

hard

> with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the

> pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

>

> He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest x-

> ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was elevated.

I

> can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ

> scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv

of

> levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3

> days.

>

> So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

>

[Guest guest]

Bruce, that sucks. An ER is no place to recover from a party.

So glad they caught the pneumonia early though. You were smart to

call the Doc. One thing this disease has taught me is to pay better

attention to my body.

Hang tough ol' friend!

Babs in Texas

>

> Well, actually not quite my story today.

>

> Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

volume

> was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

hard

> with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the

> pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

>

> He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest x-

> ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was elevated.

I

> can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ

> scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv

of

> levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3

> days.

>

> So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

>

[Guest guest]

What Babs said! Hospital is no place for poorly people!!!

Look after yourself and get well soon

Love Ze xxx> >> > Well, actually not quite my story today. > > > > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired > volume > > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying > hard > > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the > > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It > > worked to get me through until today when I could call the > > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific > > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.> > > > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest x-> > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was elevated. > I > > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ > > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv > of > > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3 > > days. > > > > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.> >>

[Guest guest]

What Babs said! Hospital is no place for poorly people!!!

Look after yourself and get well soon

Love Ze xxx> >> > Well, actually not quite my story today. > > > > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired > volume > > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying > hard > > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the > > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It > > worked to get me through until today when I could call the > > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific > > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.> > > > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest x-> > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was elevated. > I > > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ > > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv > of > > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3 > > days. > > > > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.> >>

[Guest guest]

Well, as I'm sure is not surprising I am even a bit obsessive over

watching my oxygen and using my spirometer and other breathing gadget

and the treadmill. So, in addition to the pain I was able to tell the

doctor the effect on my inspired volume and the effect on my sats on

the treadmill. So instead of just pain I had two objective

measurements. Therefore, I went to ER with clear instructions of what

they should and shouldn't do or it would have been longer than it

was. For instance, I had the Chest X-Ray and hour and a half before I

ever got taken to an ER room and had I not know about a d-diner when

they took the first blood they might not have tested for it, but they

did and had that result waiting when the ER doctor first saw me.

My only complaint is that I just don't equate the word " Emergency "

with 7 1/2 hours, about 2 1/2 before being taken back even.

But, I'm up today....already had my first dose of levaquin and my

first vicodin. lol

> >

> > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> >

> > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

> volume

> > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

> hard

> > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the

> > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> >

> > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest

x-

> > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

elevated.

> I

> > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ

> > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv

> of

> > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-

3

> > days.

> >

> > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, at least I escaped. I was afraid they were going to admit me.

Then I would have had to have struggled to see if their tv system

would have let me type here....lol

Also, for practical purposes, I want to hospital in January. December

31 was fine as I'd met my annual maximum. February 1 I'm on medicare.

January I have one month of all new deductible and copay on my

current insurance so staying would have cost out of pocket probably

$1750. Had I been one day later going would have. Because just the

nuclear testing uses up copays in a hurry. Now, I wouldn't have

compromised my health to avoid debt but still.

> > >

> > > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> > >

> > > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

> > volume

> > > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

> > hard

> > > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of

the

> > > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> > >

> > > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out

chest x-

> > > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

elevated.

> > I

> > > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a

VQ

> > > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice

iv

> > of

> > > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy

2-3

> > > days.

> > >

> > > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Peggy:

Neck and ankles?

I'm sure there is something you know I don't.

Also, just for a fleeting moment I had a horrifying picture of me

running around the house just wearing socks and a scarf, but I

realized you didn't just mean them. However, is there something

special about watching the neck and ankles or is that just a phrase?

With warm wishes from you, I'm warm all over. I did turn the heat up

though last night above my normal just as a precaution. My thermostat

on my body (wonder if I can get a new one at NAPA) went out sometime

back and I tend to keep things cooler than I did before. Of course,

I'm also experiencing the lowering of normal body temperature so I'm

sure thats perhaps related. I don't even understand what my normal

temperature is anymore. I remember when young mine was like 99.1 as

opposed to 98.6. Now its lower than 98.6 but it fluctuates so much I

don't honestly know whats normal and what isn't for me anymore. I

think its around 97.0. So does that mean 98.4 is now running a fever.

Darn, even temperature has gotten complicated. At least I understand

oxygen levels and blood pressure and know whats normal there.

Seriously, have others of you experienced this and do you work from a

new baseline or what?

> >

> > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> >

> > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

volume

> > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

> hard

> > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the

> > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> >

> > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out

chest x-

> > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

elevated.

> I

> > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ

> > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice

iv of

> > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-

3

> > days.

> >

> > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Peggy:

Neck and ankles?

I'm sure there is something you know I don't.

Also, just for a fleeting moment I had a horrifying picture of me

running around the house just wearing socks and a scarf, but I

realized you didn't just mean them. However, is there something

special about watching the neck and ankles or is that just a phrase?

With warm wishes from you, I'm warm all over. I did turn the heat up

though last night above my normal just as a precaution. My thermostat

on my body (wonder if I can get a new one at NAPA) went out sometime

back and I tend to keep things cooler than I did before. Of course,

I'm also experiencing the lowering of normal body temperature so I'm

sure thats perhaps related. I don't even understand what my normal

temperature is anymore. I remember when young mine was like 99.1 as

opposed to 98.6. Now its lower than 98.6 but it fluctuates so much I

don't honestly know whats normal and what isn't for me anymore. I

think its around 97.0. So does that mean 98.4 is now running a fever.

Darn, even temperature has gotten complicated. At least I understand

oxygen levels and blood pressure and know whats normal there.

Seriously, have others of you experienced this and do you work from a

new baseline or what?

> >

> > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> >

> > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

volume

> > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

> hard

> > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the

> > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> >

> > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out

chest x-

> > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

elevated.

> I

> > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ

> > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice

iv of

> > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-

3

> > days.

> >

> > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, my ER doctor was incredible....thorough, knowledgeable, maybe

the best I've ever had in ER and she immediately called pulmonologist

to discuss next steps. It's the triage nurse who was the pain. I did

ask him to see his medical license. " Oh, I'm not a doctor....I never

claimed to be. " So, I said, " Then why are you acting like you know

more than my doctor who does have one. " Actually, the nurse who I

first saw in ER said I should report him. Ah, does that give you a

clue when his fellow employee doesn't just apologize but encourages

you to report the guy. lol.

I know i'm stupid.....next time to ER triage, I'll be clutching my

heart and my level of pain on 1-10 is 97. lol. Of course you mention

heart and you're going to be admitted so didn't want that. Actually,

one thing I do forget is that my pain tolerance is so high I really

do need to translate to normal. We're not sure why but may be related

to other neurological issues. My doctors know but others don't. My

physical therapist actually has measured it. Using neuroprobe when I

said I was mild pain, she measured record levels of pain for her

office. But good thing was when treating she was able to turn up the

juice higher than others could take. lol.

> > >

> > > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> > >

> > > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

> > volume

> > > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and

partying

> > hard

> > > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of

the

> > > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> > >

> > > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out

chest

> x-

> > > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

> elevated.

> > I

> > > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a

VQ

> > > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice

iv

> > of

> > > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy

2-

> 3

> > > days.

> > >

> > > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Peggy

I have no intention of behaving myself. Going to try to set a record

year in my life for misbehaving.

> > >

> > > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> > >

> > > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

> volume

> > > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and

partying

> > hard

> > > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of

the

> > > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> > >

> > > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out

> chest x-

> > > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

> elevated.

> > I

> > > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a

VQ

> > > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice

> iv of

> > > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy

2-

> 3

> > > days.

> > >

> > > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's where I screwed up.....

If you don't want to wait in ER, you must go by ambulance. Actually,

my ex-wife and I talked about that while sitting yesterday, as all

those kept moving in front of me. Had I simply called for an

ambulance and had one taken me, bet I'd have been out in half the

time.

As I understand it, a negative D-dimer test will virtually rule out

thromboembolism. That is below a certain level. Once above that at

each level it may show an increased probability but is influenced by

other factors. But an above range number does not definitively say

you do have clots. In my case my D-dimer was three times the level of

ruling out but only about 30% above a " normal " range. So, on to

nuclear medicine from there.

> > >

> > > Well, actually not quite my story today. 

> > > 

> > > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired 

> > volume 

> > > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and

partying 

> > hard 

> > > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of

the 

> > > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better.

It 

> > > worked to get me through until today when I could call the 

> > > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific 

> > > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> > > 

> > > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out

chest 

> x-

> > > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was 

> elevated. 

> > I 

> > > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a

VQ 

> > > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice

iv 

> > of 

> > > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy

2-

> 3 

> > > days. 

> > > 

> > > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Bruce,

I'm so sorry that you had to visit the big house. Even a visit is ghastly. Ask your doc about keeping Levaquin (or another ab) on hand for when the infection starts. My doc gives me a script for a year at a time and lets me make the decision. He tells me that I am smart enough to know when I am sick.....and I am. Pneumonia left untreated even a short time can be devastating. We do not need new scar tissue.

You are so smart to act quickly. It is so easy to dismiss pain and feeling ill. Be well.

Hugs, Joyce D.PULMONARY FIBROSIS/LUPUS 1997 BRONCHIECTASIS 2004 INDIANA 2 COR. 12:10 ....when I am weak, then I am strong. >> Well, actually not quite my story today. > > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired volume > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying hard > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It > worked to get me through until today when I could call the > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.> > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest x-> ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was elevated. I > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv of > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3 > days. > > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.>

[Guest guest]

Bruce...I'm sure you don't have to be told to take it easy for a few days but Mama will tell you anyway; take it easy for a few days. After 7 1/2 hrs. in ER you'll need a rest. Or, maybe you got plenty of rest...waiting, although not pleasant rest.

It's always a scare when one of us has a flare of whatever.

Mama-Sher, ild 3-06, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Oh when an old man parties so hard he has to take a day off

Well, actually not quite my story today. Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired volume was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying hard with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It worked to get me through until today when I could call the pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest x-ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was elevated. I can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv of levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3 days. So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

[Guest guest]

Good advice as always. Doctor would have prescribed yesterday except

wanted me to ER for possibility of blood clots. Also, not sure just

the pain would have pushed me by itself as quickly as the other

indicators-my spirometer and breathing exercises and my oximeter on

exertion. Probably another lesson learned too that the spirometer not

only is good to exercise but also a good check on your breathing. I

also knew that when your inspired volume drops to 1000 the risk of

pneumonia jumps up and mine did. Now I did quickly get it back up by

taking vicodin. One thing I learned from VATS recovery in hospital

was that even when you think you're fine with the pain, your lung may

not agree and may let it prevent it from doing more. Amazing, one

vicodin and I went from 1000 to 1500.

So, making note....keep levaquin or other antibiotic on hand and

vicodin...just in case.

> >

> > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> >

> > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

volume

> > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

hard

> > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the

> > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> >

> > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest

x-

> > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

elevated. I

> > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ

> > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv

of

> > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3

> > days.

> >

> > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good advice as always. Doctor would have prescribed yesterday except

wanted me to ER for possibility of blood clots. Also, not sure just

the pain would have pushed me by itself as quickly as the other

indicators-my spirometer and breathing exercises and my oximeter on

exertion. Probably another lesson learned too that the spirometer not

only is good to exercise but also a good check on your breathing. I

also knew that when your inspired volume drops to 1000 the risk of

pneumonia jumps up and mine did. Now I did quickly get it back up by

taking vicodin. One thing I learned from VATS recovery in hospital

was that even when you think you're fine with the pain, your lung may

not agree and may let it prevent it from doing more. Amazing, one

vicodin and I went from 1000 to 1500.

So, making note....keep levaquin or other antibiotic on hand and

vicodin...just in case.

> >

> > Well, actually not quite my story today.

> >

> > Yesterday started experiencing some lung pain and my inspired

volume

> > was down as were sats on exertion. So, being Sunday and partying

hard

> > with all of you, I just took some vicodin not for the feel of the

> > pain but to ease it on the lung so it would function better. It

> > worked to get me through until today when I could call the

> > pulmonologist who then sent me to the ER, but with specific

> > instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.

> >

> > He was afraid of blood clots and pneumonia. Well, turns out chest

x-

> > ray showed mild pneumonia and also d-dimer blood test was

elevated. I

> > can't have a CT with contrast due to creatinine level so had a VQ

> > scan. It turned out ok revealing no blood clots. So got a nice iv

of

> > levaquin there and more to bring home and told to take it easy 2-3

> > days.

> >

> > So all is fine except for spending 7 1/2 hours at ER.

> >

>