Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 , After reading this report, along with so many others I have been reading on the graves_support page I am sitting here open mouthed and absolutely stunned...and angry. In Novemeber my daughter turns 30, while in last stages of labor with her they couldn't figure out why I wasn't dialating so they did X-rays to figure it out...no answer just went a head with a C-section. Her whole life has been plagued with unexplained illnesses, or illnesses they had never seen in such a young person, they began at age 5. She has been tired her whole life...I'm talking as a Sr. in HS she went to bed at 9 pm because she had to sleep. Even no as a mother of one and pregnant again, working full time, she is in tears a lot from the fatigue. The dr. ran a thyroid panel 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with GD and came up with no thyroid problems. It is evident that she has *something* going on in her body...but no one can figure it out. I am sitting here right now and thinking that maybe/probably those " safe " X-rays 30 years ago when she was in my womb have permanently damaged her immune system and I don't know what to do Just prior to being diagnosed with GD I was in a hospital being diagnosed with double pneumonia, lung cancer, heart attack, pneumonia that only aids patients get and finally congestive heart failure...I was in heart failure which my current primary and I believe was caused by full blown thyroid storm...which they NEVER diagnosed anything thyroid. After 8 days I signed myself out of the hospital, came home and found a dr. here...but while I was in for those 8 days...3/4 times A DAY...I was having chest X-rays...what am I facing down the road now? What do I need to be watching for? When will I begin seeing the affects of those X-Rays. I don't expect anyone to beable to answer those questions for me, I just needed to ask them. Thanks for sharing that report. You have given me so much to think about. Jody ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 Hi you all, The long paper below, might seem being out of track at a graves_support board. But those considering RAI or already RAI'ed are corteously suggested to read it carefully. Some of the data it contains have sometimes been quoted at our atomicwomen mailing-list and yahoo club. (links at the bottom). Drs. Wood, and rigdway, in their book " Your thyroid a home reference " , quote how over 2.000.000.- children and adolescents in USA were given X-rays between 1920's and 1960's for problems like enlarged tonsils or adenoids, birthmarks, whooping cough, acne and ringworm of the scalp. They add: " " Subsequent large-scale studies of thyroid cancer frequency in radiated and non radiated control groups have established beyond doubt the relationship between radiation exposure and thyroid cancer " " . ________________________________ The Major Cause Of Cancer, Part 1 's Environment And Health Weekly #6913-21-00 When Wilhelm Roentgen first discovered X-rays, in 1895, " doctors and physicians saw the practical potential of X-rays at once, and rushed to experiment with them. " [1,pg.7] Many physicians built their own X-ray equipment, with mixed results: some home-brew X-ray machines produced no radiation whatsoever, others produced enough to irradiate everyone in the next room. The ability to see inside the human body for the first time was a marvelous, mysterious and deeply provocative discovery. Roentgen trained X-rays on his wife's hand for 15 minutes, producing a macabre image of the bones of her hand adorned by her wedding ring. Roentgen's biographer, Otto Glasser, says Mrs. Roentgen " could hardly believe that this bony hand was her own and shuddered at the thought that she was seeing her skeleton. To Mrs. Roentgen, as to many others later, this experience gave a vague premonition of death, " Glasser wrote.[1,pg.4] Within a year, by 1896, physicians were using X-rays for diagnosis and as a new way of gathering evidence to protect themselves against malpractice suits. Almost immediately -- during 1895-96 -- it also became clear that X-rays could cause serious medical problems. Some physicians received burns that wouldn't heal, requiring amputation of their fingers. Others developed fatal cancers. At that time, antibiotics had not yet been discovered, so physicians had only a small number of treatments they could offer their patients; X-rays gave them a range of new procedures that were very " high tech " -- bordering on the miraculous -- and which seemed to hold out promise to the sick. Thus the medical world embraced these mysterious, invisible rays with great enthusiasm. Understandably, physicians at the time often thought they observed therapeutic benefits where controlled experiments today find none. At that time -- just prior to 1920 -- the editor of AMERICAN X-RAY JOURNAL said " there are about 100 named diseases that yield favorably to X-ray treatment. " In her informative history of the technology, MULTIPLE EXPOSURES; CHRONICLES OF THE RADIATION AGE, Caufield (see REHW #200, #201, #202), comments on this period: " Radiation treatment for benign [non-cancer] diseases became a medical craze that lasted for 40 or more years. " [1,pg.15] " ...[L]arge groups of people [were] needlessly irradiated for such minor problems as ringworm and acne.... Many women had their ovaries irradiated as a treatment for depression. " [1,pg.15] Such uses of X-rays would today be viewed as quackery, but many of them were accepted medical practice into the 1950s. Physicians weren't the only ones enthusiastic about X-ray therapies. If you get a large enough dose of X-rays your hair falls out, so " beauty shops installed X-ray equipment to remove their customers' unwanted facial and body hair, " Caufield reports.[1,pg.15] Roentgen's discovery of X-rays in 1895 led directly to Henri Becquerel's discovery of the radioactivity of uranium in 1896 and then to the discovery of radium by Marie Curie and her husband Pierre in 1898, for which Becquerel and the Curies were jointly awarded the Nobel prize in 1903. (Twenty years later Madame Curie would die of acute lymphoblastic leukemia.) Soon radioactive radium was being prescribed by physicians alongside X-rays. Radium treatments were prescribed for heart trouble, impotence, ulcers, depression, arthritis, cancer, high blood pressure, blindness and tuberculosis, among other ailments. Soon radioactive toothpaste was being marketed, then radioactive skin cream. In Germany, chocolate bars containing radium were sold as a " rejuvenator. " [1,pg.28] In the U.S, hundreds of thousands of people began drinking bottled water laced with radium, as a general elixir known popularly as " liquid sunshine. " As recently as 1952 LIFE magazine wrote about the beneficial effects of inhaling radioactive radon gas in deep mines. Even today The Merry Widow Health Mine near Butte, Montana and the Sunshine Radon Health Mine nearby advertise that visitors to the mines report multiple benefits from inhaling radioactive radon,[2] even though numerous studies now indicate that the only demonstrable health effect of radon gas is lung cancer. Thus the medical world and popular culture together embraced X-rays (and other radioactive emanations) as miraculous remedies, gifts to humanity from the foremost geniuses of an inventive age. In the popular imagination, these technologies suffered a serious setback when atomic bombs were detonated over Japan in 1945. Even though the A-bombs arguably shortened WW II and saved American lives, Hersey's description of the human devastation in HIROSHIMA forever imprinted the mushroom cloud in the popular mind as an omen of unutterable ruin. Despite substantial efforts to cast The Bomb in a positive light, radiation technology would never recover the luster it had gained before WW II. Seven years after A-bombs were used in war, Dwight Eisenhower set the U.S. government on a new course, intended to show the world that nuclear weapons, radioactivity and radiation were not harbingers of death but were in fact powerful, benign servants offering almost-limitless benefits to humankind. The " Atoms for Peace " program was born, explicitly aimed at convincing Americans and the world that these new technologies were full of hope, and that nuclear power reactors should be developed with tax dollars to generate electricity. The promise of this newest technical advance seemed too good to be true -- electricity " too cheap to meter. " [3] The Atomic Energy Act of 1946 created the civilian Atomic Energy Commission but as a practical matter the nation's top military commanders maintained close control over the development of all nuclear technologies.[4] Thus by a series of historical accidents, all of the major sources of ionizing radiation fell under the purview of people and institutions who had no reason to want to explore the early knowledge that radiation was harmful. In 1927, Hermann J. Muller had demonstrated that X-rays caused inheritable genetic damage, and he received a Nobel prize for his efforts. However, he had performed his experiments on fruit flies and it was easy, or at least convenient, to dismiss his findings as irrelevant to humans. In sum, to physicians, radiation seemed a promising new therapy for treating nearly every ailment under the sun; for the military and the Joint Commmission on Atomic Energy in Congress it unleashed hundreds of billions of dollars, a veritable flood of taxpayer funds, most of which came with almost no oversight because of official secrecy surrounding weapons development; and for private-sector government contractors like Union Carbide, Monsanto Chemical Co., General Electric, Bechtel Corporation, DuPont, Marietta and others -- it meant an opportunity to join the elite " military-industrial complex " whose growing political power President Eisenhower warned against in his final address to Congress in 1959. Throughout the 1950s the military detonated A-bombs above-ground at the Nevada Test Site, showering downwind civilian populations with radioactivity.[5] At the Hanford Reservation in Washington state, technicians intentionally released huge clouds of radioactivity to see what would happen to the human populations thus exposed. In one Hanford experiment 500,000 Curies of radioactive iodine were released; iodine collects in the human thyroid gland. The victims of this experiment, mostly Native Americans, were not told about it for 45 years.[6,pg.96] American sailors on ships and soldiers on the ground were exposed to large doses of radioactivity just to see what would happen to them. The military brass insisted that being showered with radiation is harmless. In his autobiography, Karl Z. , who served as radiation safety director at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory (Clinton, Tennessee) from 1944 to 1971, recalls that, " The Veterans Administration seems always on the defensive to make sure the victims are not compensated. " [6,pg.101] recounts the story of D. erman, a Navy man who received large doses of radiation during A-bomb experiments on Bikini Atoll in 1946. writes, " The Veterans Administration denied any connection to radiation exposure until 1988, when it had awarded his widow benefits. By the time of his death, erman's body was almost consumed by cancers of the lung, bronchial lymph nodes, diaphragm, spleen, pancreas, intestines, stomach, liver, and adrenal glands. In 1989, a year after it had awarded the benefits, the VA revoked them from erman's widow. " [6,pg.101] Starting in the 1940s and continuing into the 1960s, thousands of uranium miners were told that breathing radon gas in the uranium mines of New Mexico was perfectly safe. Only now are the radon-caused lung cancers being tallied up, as the truth leaks out 50 years too late. In retrospect, a kind of nuclear mania swept the industrial world. What biotechnology and high-tech computers are today, atomic technology was in the 1950s and early 1960s. Government contractors spent billions to develop a nuclear-powered airplane -- even though simple engineering calculations told them early in the project that such a plane would be too heavy to carry a useful cargo.[4,pg.204] Monsanto Research Corporation proposed a plutonium-powered coffee pot that would boil water for 100 years without a refueling.[4,pg.227] A Boston company proposed cufflinks made of radioactive uranium for the simple reason that uranium is heavier than lead and " the unusual weight prevents cuffs from riding up. " [4,pg.227] In 1957, the Atomic Energy Commission established its Plowshare Division -- named of course for the Biblical " swords into plowshares " phrasing in Isaiah (2:4).[4,pg.231] Our government and its industrial partners were determined to show the world that this technology was benign, no matter what the facts might be. On July 14, 1958, Dr. Teller, the father of the H-bomb, arrived in Alaska to announce Project Chariot, a plan to carve a new harbor out of the Alaska coast by detonating up to six H-bombs. After a tremendous political fight -- documented in Dan O'Neill's book, THE FIRECRACKER BOYS[7] -- the plan was shelved. Another plan was developed to blast a new canal across Central America with atomic bombs, simply to give the U.S. some leverage in negotiating with Panama over control of the Panama Canal. That plan, too, was scrapped. In 1967, an A-bomb was detonated underground in New Mexico, to release natural gas trapped in shale rock formations. Trapped gas was in fact released, but -- as the project's engineers should have been able to predict -- the gas turned out to be radioactive so the hole in the ground was plugged and a bronze plaque in the desert is all that remains visible of Project Gasbuggy.[4,pg.236] In sum, according to NEW YORK TIMES columnist H. Metzger, the Atomic Energy Commission wasted billions of dollars on " crackpot schemes, " all for the purpose of proving that nuclear technology is beneficial and not in any way harmful.[4,pg.237] The Plowshare Division may have been a complete failure, but one lasting result emerged from all these efforts: A powerful culture of denial sunk deep roots into the heart of scientific and industrial America. [To be continued April 13.] Descriptor terms: radiation; nuclear weapons; nuclear power; x-rays; cancer; carcinogens; karl z. morgan; downwinders; nevada test site; hanford; ============== [1] Caufield, MULTIPLE EXPOSURES; CHRONICLES OF THE RADIATION AGE (New York: Harper & Row, 1989). ISBN 0-06-015900-6. [2] Jim Robbins, " Camping Out in the Merry Widow Mine, " HIGH COUNTRY NEWS Vol. 26, No. 12 (June 27, 1994), pgs. unknown. See http://www.hcn.org/1994/jun27/dir/reporters.html. And see http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/MTBASradon.html [3] Arjun Makhijani and Saleska, THE NUCLEAR POWER DECEPTION; U.S. NUCLEAR MYTHOLOGY FROM ELECTRICITY " TOO CHEAP TO METER " TO " INHERENTLY SAFE " REACTORS (New York: The Apex Press, 1999). ISBN 0-945257-75-9. [4] H. Metzger, THE ATOMIC ESTABLISHMENT (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1972). ISBN 671-21351-2. [5] D', ATOMIC HARVEST (New York: Crown Publishers, 1993). ISBN 0-517-58981-8. And: Chip Ward, Canaries on the Rim: Living Downwind in the West (New York: Verso, 1999). ISBN 1859847501. [6] Karl Z. and Ken M. , THE ANGRY GENIE; ONE MAN'S WALK THROUGH THE NUCLEAR AGE (Norman, Oklahoma: University of Oklahoma Press, 1999). ISBN 0-8061-3122-5. [7] Dan O'Neill, THE FIRECRACKER BOYS (New York: St. 's Press, 1994). ISBN 0-312-13416-9. NOTICE In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107 this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving it for research and educational purposes. Environmental Research Foundation provides this electronic version of RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT & HEALTH WEEKLY free of charge even though it costs the organization considerable time and money to produce it. We would like to continue to provide this service free. You could help by making a tax-deductible contribution (anything you can afford, whether $5.00 or $500.00). 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 e, It is food for thought and something to pass on to her. Is there a specific blood test that can be done to determine CFS? My daughter started out at age 5 with tonsilitis...they removed tonsils and adnoids...at 6 1/2 she had mono...she was home tutored for 12 weeks. Two months after school let out I took her to the ER because she spiked a fever of 104.6, they made us sit in the waiting room even after she started vomiting blood (not great quanities) from 7 in the evening until 2 a.m. at which time they got us into a room, did CBC and differentials...ER dr. came in said " Your daughters got leukemia, take her home and call Buffalo Childrens in the morning, it will take you 2/3 weeks to get in " I will NEVER forget those words. Needless to say we were out there the next morning, she went through all the tests for leukemia and others. What she ended up with is a name I can not remember though it was a complication of the mono she had and affected her spleen and liver. Until she hit puberty we had to have blood work every week. So I am not sure it is CFS with this history. Actually she started sleeping all night at 15 days old and required a lot of sleep her whole life. I can't help but wonder if the X-rays I had during labor damaged her thyroid possibly causing hypothyroidism or Hashimotos. She was tested for the GD antibodies but not Hashimotos. The big problem right now is trying to reach her and get her to please go and be tested again. She just comes back with " Mom, just because YOU have GD doesn't mean everyone else does " and she refuses it...just is frustrating. But the report on the X-rays just has me really thinking and worrying because as she is pregnant again with her second child I can't help but wonder what is instore. This pregnancy is plagued with problems (though her OBGYN is WONDERFUL, sees her every week since the beginning of her pregnancy.) and seems to be following the same road my second pregnancy did which ended up with an abruption and the death of our youngest daughter shortly after birth. Learning all that I am now makes me wish I had learned it all YEARS ago...but we all have 20/20 hindsight and it isn't going to fix anything or change anything...I just want to reach her NOW so she doesn't follow the road I went down. Thanks all for letting me get my worries out, didn't mean for this to be so long...and thanks e for the suggestion...if you do know of a test for CFS please let me know. *HUGZ* to all Jody ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 My dear Jody, I deeply regret all health problems your daughter and you had and are having. Sometimes I hate to share this kind of information. But, on the other hand, and since I have known by myself what a little amount of RAI did to my body, I feel committed to spread the word. Not only for ourselves but for our children's children, or grandchildren, who might have to assume the worst part. I'm appalled when I see how naively and easily is RAI prescribed to people -specially and regretfully in the USA- without giving them information, neither on this treatment, nor or other less invasive treatments. Knowledge is power, and the best we can do as patients and as human beings is to try to search the most and the best information we can. This way our decissions will be wiser. And our body -and our children's- will appreciate it. Anything you could -hypothetically- pass to yr daughter, has not been your fault. Perhaps niether your doctor's fault... Only missinformation, or dis-information. Not so long ago, blood letting and leaches were considered 'good treatments'. The radium 'crazy' let do several quack cures causing a lot of harm to many people. I actually believe RAI-131 as a treatment for Graves' will join this " quack radium cures museum " . (You may have a look, if you wish, at http://www.geocities.com/ibayoa). Thanks for reading. I'm so sorry you and your daughter are having so many problems. Perhaps an approach to alternative methods, and very healthy whole food diet would help your bodies in the healing process. I wish you feel better soon. Take care. ______________ > >Reply-To: graves_supportonelist >To: graves_supportonelist >Subject: Re: The major cause of cancer >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:32:34 EST > >, >After reading this report, along with so many others I have been reading on >the graves_support page I am sitting here open mouthed and absolutely >stunned...and angry. > >In Novemeber my daughter turns 30, while in last stages of labor with her >they couldn't figure out why I wasn't dialating so they did X-rays to >figure >it out...no answer just went a head with a C-section. > >Her whole life has been plagued with unexplained illnesses, or illnesses >they had never seen in such a young person, they began at age 5. She has >been tired her whole life...I'm talking as a Sr. in HS she went to bed at 9 >pm because she had to sleep. Even no as a mother of one and pregnant >again, >working full time, she is in tears a lot from the fatigue. The dr. ran a >thyroid panel 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with GD and came up with no >thyroid problems. It is evident that she has *something* going on in her >body...but no one can figure it out. I am sitting here right now and >thinking that maybe/probably those " safe " X-rays 30 years ago when she was >in my womb have permanently damaged her immune system and I don't know what >to do > >Just prior to being diagnosed with GD I was in a hospital being diagnosed >with double pneumonia, lung cancer, heart attack, pneumonia that only aids >patients get and finally congestive heart failure...I was in heart failure >which my current primary and I believe was caused by full blown thyroid >storm...which they NEVER diagnosed anything thyroid. After 8 days I signed >myself out of the hospital, came home and found a dr. here...but while I >was >in for those 8 days...3/4 times A DAY...I was having chest X-rays...what am >I facing down the road now? What do I need to be watching for? When will >I >begin seeing the affects of those X-Rays. I don't expect anyone to beable >to answer those questions for me, I just needed to ask them. > >Thanks for sharing that report. You have given me so much to think >about. >Jody >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 My dear Jody, I deeply regret all health problems your daughter and you had and are having. Sometimes I hate to share this kind of information. But, on the other hand, and since I have known by myself what a little amount of RAI did to my body, I feel committed to spread the word. Not only for ourselves but for our children's children, or grandchildren, who might have to assume the worst part. I'm appalled when I see how naively and easily is RAI prescribed to people -specially and regretfully in the USA- without giving them information, neither on this treatment, nor or other less invasive treatments. Knowledge is power, and the best we can do as patients and as human beings is to try to search the most and the best information we can. This way our decissions will be wiser. And our body -and our children's- will appreciate it. Anything you could -hypothetically- pass to yr daughter, has not been your fault. Perhaps niether your doctor's fault... Only missinformation, or dis-information. Not so long ago, blood letting and leaches were considered 'good treatments'. The radium 'crazy' let do several quack cures causing a lot of harm to many people. I actually believe RAI-131 as a treatment for Graves' will join this " quack radium cures museum " . (You may have a look, if you wish, at http://www.geocities.com/ibayoa). Thanks for reading. I'm so sorry you and your daughter are having so many problems. Perhaps an approach to alternative methods, and very healthy whole food diet would help your bodies in the healing process. I wish you feel better soon. Take care. ______________ > >Reply-To: graves_supportonelist >To: graves_supportonelist >Subject: Re: The major cause of cancer >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:32:34 EST > >, >After reading this report, along with so many others I have been reading on >the graves_support page I am sitting here open mouthed and absolutely >stunned...and angry. > >In Novemeber my daughter turns 30, while in last stages of labor with her >they couldn't figure out why I wasn't dialating so they did X-rays to >figure >it out...no answer just went a head with a C-section. > >Her whole life has been plagued with unexplained illnesses, or illnesses >they had never seen in such a young person, they began at age 5. She has >been tired her whole life...I'm talking as a Sr. in HS she went to bed at 9 >pm because she had to sleep. Even no as a mother of one and pregnant >again, >working full time, she is in tears a lot from the fatigue. The dr. ran a >thyroid panel 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with GD and came up with no >thyroid problems. It is evident that she has *something* going on in her >body...but no one can figure it out. I am sitting here right now and >thinking that maybe/probably those " safe " X-rays 30 years ago when she was >in my womb have permanently damaged her immune system and I don't know what >to do > >Just prior to being diagnosed with GD I was in a hospital being diagnosed >with double pneumonia, lung cancer, heart attack, pneumonia that only aids >patients get and finally congestive heart failure...I was in heart failure >which my current primary and I believe was caused by full blown thyroid >storm...which they NEVER diagnosed anything thyroid. After 8 days I signed >myself out of the hospital, came home and found a dr. here...but while I >was >in for those 8 days...3/4 times A DAY...I was having chest X-rays...what am >I facing down the road now? What do I need to be watching for? When will >I >begin seeing the affects of those X-Rays. I don't expect anyone to beable >to answer those questions for me, I just needed to ask them. > >Thanks for sharing that report. You have given me so much to think >about. >Jody >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 My dear Jody, I deeply regret all health problems your daughter and you had and are having. Sometimes I hate to share this kind of information. But, on the other hand, and since I have known by myself what a little amount of RAI did to my body, I feel committed to spread the word. Not only for ourselves but for our children's children, or grandchildren, who might have to assume the worst part. I'm appalled when I see how naively and easily is RAI prescribed to people -specially and regretfully in the USA- without giving them information, neither on this treatment, nor or other less invasive treatments. Knowledge is power, and the best we can do as patients and as human beings is to try to search the most and the best information we can. This way our decissions will be wiser. And our body -and our children's- will appreciate it. Anything you could -hypothetically- pass to yr daughter, has not been your fault. Perhaps niether your doctor's fault... Only missinformation, or dis-information. Not so long ago, blood letting and leaches were considered 'good treatments'. The radium 'crazy' let do several quack cures causing a lot of harm to many people. I actually believe RAI-131 as a treatment for Graves' will join this " quack radium cures museum " . (You may have a look, if you wish, at http://www.geocities.com/ibayoa). Thanks for reading. I'm so sorry you and your daughter are having so many problems. Perhaps an approach to alternative methods, and very healthy whole food diet would help your bodies in the healing process. I wish you feel better soon. Take care. ______________ > >Reply-To: graves_supportonelist >To: graves_supportonelist >Subject: Re: The major cause of cancer >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:32:34 EST > >, >After reading this report, along with so many others I have been reading on >the graves_support page I am sitting here open mouthed and absolutely >stunned...and angry. > >In Novemeber my daughter turns 30, while in last stages of labor with her >they couldn't figure out why I wasn't dialating so they did X-rays to >figure >it out...no answer just went a head with a C-section. > >Her whole life has been plagued with unexplained illnesses, or illnesses >they had never seen in such a young person, they began at age 5. She has >been tired her whole life...I'm talking as a Sr. in HS she went to bed at 9 >pm because she had to sleep. Even no as a mother of one and pregnant >again, >working full time, she is in tears a lot from the fatigue. The dr. ran a >thyroid panel 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with GD and came up with no >thyroid problems. It is evident that she has *something* going on in her >body...but no one can figure it out. I am sitting here right now and >thinking that maybe/probably those " safe " X-rays 30 years ago when she was >in my womb have permanently damaged her immune system and I don't know what >to do > >Just prior to being diagnosed with GD I was in a hospital being diagnosed >with double pneumonia, lung cancer, heart attack, pneumonia that only aids >patients get and finally congestive heart failure...I was in heart failure >which my current primary and I believe was caused by full blown thyroid >storm...which they NEVER diagnosed anything thyroid. After 8 days I signed >myself out of the hospital, came home and found a dr. here...but while I >was >in for those 8 days...3/4 times A DAY...I was having chest X-rays...what am >I facing down the road now? What do I need to be watching for? When will >I >begin seeing the affects of those X-Rays. I don't expect anyone to beable >to answer those questions for me, I just needed to ask them. > >Thanks for sharing that report. You have given me so much to think >about. >Jody >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 Jody, Your story of your daughter made me think of something. My sister was telling me the story of a male friend of hers that has been diagnosed with " Chronic Fatigue Syndrome " (Wilkes Barre Virus). A couple of years ago he had pneumonia and with the pnemumonia he contracted some kind of virus that caused the Wilkes-Barre. You said something about yourself having pneumonia. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (Wilkes-Barre) is thought to be caused by a virus. This virus is believed to attack your immune system. I was just wondering if something like that could have been passed on to your daughter. It's just a thought! e Re: The major cause of cancer > > > , > After reading this report, along with so many others I have been reading on > the graves_support page I am sitting here open mouthed and absolutely > stunned...and angry. > > In Novemeber my daughter turns 30, while in last stages of labor with her > they couldn't figure out why I wasn't dialating so they did X-rays to figure > it out...no answer just went a head with a C-section. > > Her whole life has been plagued with unexplained illnesses, or illnesses > they had never seen in such a young person, they began at age 5. She has > been tired her whole life...I'm talking as a Sr. in HS she went to bed at 9 > pm because she had to sleep. Even no as a mother of one and pregnant again, > working full time, she is in tears a lot from the fatigue. The dr. ran a > thyroid panel 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with GD and came up with no > thyroid problems. It is evident that she has *something* going on in her > body...but no one can figure it out. I am sitting here right now and > thinking that maybe/probably those " safe " X-rays 30 years ago when she was > in my womb have permanently damaged her immune system and I don't know what > to do > > Just prior to being diagnosed with GD I was in a hospital being diagnosed > with double pneumonia, lung cancer, heart attack, pneumonia that only aids > patients get and finally congestive heart failure...I was in heart failure > which my current primary and I believe was caused by full blown thyroid > storm...which they NEVER diagnosed anything thyroid. After 8 days I signed > myself out of the hospital, came home and found a dr. here...but while I was > in for those 8 days...3/4 times A DAY...I was having chest X-rays...what am > I facing down the road now? What do I need to be watching for? When will I > begin seeing the affects of those X-Rays. I don't expect anyone to beable > to answer those questions for me, I just needed to ask them. > > Thanks for sharing that report. You have given me so much to think > about. > Jody > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR! > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as > 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. > Apply NOW! > http://click./1/2121/3/_/585824/_/953839955/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2000 Report Share Posted March 24, 2000 , Please don't ever be hesitant to share the information you gain. I wouldn't be a memeber of this group and reading all of the other information regarding GD, testing, mistakes etc. if I were not meant to be here now...I must be ready or I wouldn't have found this place when I did. I have this philosphy that everything in our lives happens for a reason, that everything we go through, learn, share happens in the time frame it is suppose to happen. I believe that all of us coming together at this time in our lives is the way it is suppose to be. That the road we are all traveling down together now will lead us somewhere...and even though I still sometimes question the whys and wherefores I know in my heart and mind it will be where it is suppose to be at that moment in time. Like I said, my beliefs are not for everyone, but they have helped me in so many areas of my life that without them I don't believe I would have survived. My sister does JSJ (Jin Shin Jujitsu) and Craneal (sp?) something, it escapes me exactly what that is at the moment. She is very much into alternative therapies in conjucntion with traditional treatment...she does have a background in the medical field after 27 years working in the lab at a couple of hospitals...back in the days when the lab tech did it all...drawing, processing and reading the tests. Anyhow, am getting off the track I wanted to start on...we got together for lunch on Monday and were talking about all that I am learning and what she has/is learning and she recommended a book to me that I have ordered called " Anatomy of the Spirit " by Carolyn Myss, she drew me a diagram that blew me away...almost EVERY shockra except for the 1st and 7th ones are inline with our endrocrine system...so this is another new road for me to explore and learn about. Have you read this book by chance? Okay, enough I am beginning to ramble...but was curious whether you or anyone else in this group has read this book and noticed how it all ties together from a spiritual point as well. *HUGZ* Jody ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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