Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 Thanks to all the Moms and may your special day be as special as each of you Who wiped my eyes when I was sad ? Who told me I was beautiful ? Who spent hour after hour reading to me? Who took care of me when I was sick? Who encouraged me to do my best, but made me feel good when my best wasn't good enough? Who taught me by example? Who do I look up to with loving eyes? My Mom. In a sometimes cold and heartless world you always loved me . Thanks to all the moms! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 This is so very cool! Carol ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:14:46 -0400 From: " tsf " <tsf@...<mailto:tsf@...>> Subject: home made glycerine soap recipe?without denat alcohol? I've done it but you do need the denatured alchohol. without it it just won't be clear. Rubbin alcohol will result in a smoky look. Just be careful and follow instructions completely. I used the 'transparent soapmaking' book ( Failor) and I found it good. However, the resulting batches were not as big as it indicated and so my soaps were undersized. they were beautiful, though, and smooth as glass. While I enjoyed it if I want transparent I'll just buy MP because for the extra effort I cannot charge enough to recoup the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 What state are you in? What clinic are you working with that is willing to take the medicaid? Tonni medicaid wrote: There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. RE: Re: Insurance Approval for HBOT From: " judith burkholder " ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:06:02 -0500 From: " judith burkholder " Subject: RE: Re: Insurance Approval for HBOT We have just sent in our Medicaid application and it was at the suggestion of the Medicaid enrollment officer that we apply this way. They were very helpful and even changed the form so that we would be listed as a clinic. I believe that we will be reimbursed at a higher rate than if we had been listed as HBOT. I will continue to update as the application is determined. (Also our doctor suggested that we may then also bill for DME such as the hood, tubing, etc. and perhaps even the administration to cover staffing costs.) >From: " sly243 " >Reply-medicaid >medicaid >Subject: [ ] Re: Insurance Approval for HBOT >Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:14:59 -0000 > >Interesting idea... prescription would be for oxygen and the >chamber is just the pressured administration apperatice? > > > > > > Has any HBOT provider sought to become a medicaid provider >under " medical > > supplier " and bill through pharmacy supplier of retail oxygen? > > > > > > >From: " sly243 " > > >Reply-medicaid > > >medicaid > > >Subject: [ ] Insurance Approval for HBOT > > >Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:06 -0000 > > > > > >We were able to obtain Insurance pre-certification for HBOT from > > >United Healthcare. HBOT was presented as a small adjunct >catalyistic > > >therapy critical to effectuate the overall comprehensive treatment > > >plan consisting primarily of physical therapy. > > > > > > > > >We were successful in obtaining insurance pre-certification for > > >ambulance transport to and from the outpatient facility due to our > > >stretcher transportation requirement. > > > > > >The insurance policy provides for 60 physical therapy sessions per > > >year. > > > > > >Physical Therapy > > >Physical therapy is limited to 60 visits per person per calendar > > >year. Additional visits may be approved if medically necessary. > > > > > >The Plan covers short-term outpatient physical therapy to improve >the > > >patient's ability to perform tasks required for independent > > >functioning when function has been temporarily lost and can be > > >restored: i.e., strokes, cerebrovascular accidents. A licensed > > >therapy provider, under the direction of a physician, must > > >perform the services. > > > > > >Rehabilitation services that are not expected to result in > > >significant physical improvement in your condition within two > > >months and treatments that cease to be therapeutic and are > > >administered to maintain a level of functioning or to prevent > > >a medical problem from occurring or recurring of the start of > > >treatment are not covered. > > > > > >What we did: > > > > > >1. Obtained referral from primary care physician to HBO facility >and > > >doctor. > > > > > >2. Obtained referral from primary care physician for Physical > > >Therapy. > > > > > >3. Developed a comprehensive treatment plan in which physical >therapy > > >was primary treatment and HBOT was an adjunct catalyistic therapy. > > > > > >Submitted treatment plan to insurance for pre-certification (5 >days > > >advance notice requirement.) > > > > > >Received approval ... > > > > > >------------ FOR HBOT PROVIDERS ---------------------------- > > >Please consider bringing in physical therapy services to your > > >facility. Consider developing comprehensive treatment plans > > >primarily focused on physical therapy with HBOT as an adjunct > > >treatment. Develop different treatment plans for various > > >injuries,ie. stroke, diabetes, children, elderly etc... > > > > > >If planned and presented properly you should be able to receive > > >precertifications for treatments and the ability to provide >services > > >to a broader spectrum of patients. > > > > > > > > >------------ FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID --------------------- > > > > > >Medicare helps pay for medically necessary outpatient physical and > > >occupational therapy and speech-language pathology services when: > > > > > > > > >Your doctor or therapist sets up the plan of treatment, and > > >Your doctor periodically reviews the plan to see how long you will > > >get therapy. > > > > > >You can get outpatient services from a participating hospital or > > >skilled nursing facility, or from a participating home health >agency, > > >rehabilitation agency, or public health agency. Also, you can get > > >services from a Medicare-approved physical or occupational >therapist, > > >in private practice while in his or her office or in your home. > > >Medicare doesn't pay for services given by a speech pathologist in > > >private practice. There is no limit to the amount of medically > > >necessary outpatient physical therapy, occupational therapy, or > > >speech-language pathology services you may receive. You can get >these > > >services from any Medicare-approved outpatient provider. > > > > > >http://www.medicare.gov/Coverage/Home.asp > > > > > >Update: Beginning January 1, 2006, financial limitation of therapy > > >services (therapy caps) will be implemented. The dollar amount >for > > >the 2006 limitation on physical therapy and speech-language >pathology > > >services from January 1, 2006, through December 31, 2006, will be > > >$1,740.00. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >- > > >Summary: > > > > > >HBOT is not a primary treatment for any condition. HBOT is a >small > > >adjunct catalyistic therapy critical to effectuate the overall > > >comprehensive treatment plan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. " [ 29:11] _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf Is HBOT at your hospital? http://apps.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/directories/index.cfm EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ , 2/files/ and http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Friend or foe to medicaid? >From: Tonni Brende <tonnibrende@...> >Reply-medicaid >medicaid >Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1409 >Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:13:47 -0800 (PST) > >What state are you in? What clinic are you working with that is willing to >take the medicaid? > Tonni > >medicaid wrote: > There is 1 message in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > >1. RE: Re: Insurance Approval for HBOT >From: " judith burkholder " > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:06:02 -0500 >From: " judith burkholder " >Subject: RE: Re: Insurance Approval for HBOT > >We have just sent in our Medicaid application and it was at the suggestion >of the Medicaid enrollment officer that we apply this way. They were very >helpful and even changed the form so that we would be listed as a clinic. I >believe that we will be reimbursed at a higher rate than if we had been >listed as HBOT. I will continue to update as the application is determined. >(Also our doctor suggested that we may then also bill for DME such as the >hood, tubing, etc. and perhaps even the administration to cover staffing >costs.) > > > >From: " sly243 " > >Reply-medicaid > >medicaid > >Subject: [ ] Re: Insurance Approval for HBOT > >Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:14:59 -0000 > > > >Interesting idea... prescription would be for oxygen and the > >chamber is just the pressured administration apperatice? > > > > > > > > > > Has any HBOT provider sought to become a medicaid provider > >under " medical > > > supplier " and bill through pharmacy supplier of retail oxygen? > > > > > > > > > >From: " sly243 " > > > >Reply-medicaid > > > >medicaid > > > >Subject: [ ] Insurance Approval for HBOT > > > >Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:06 -0000 > > > > > > > >We were able to obtain Insurance pre-certification for HBOT from > > > >United Healthcare. HBOT was presented as a small adjunct > >catalyistic > > > >therapy critical to effectuate the overall comprehensive treatment > > > >plan consisting primarily of physical therapy. > > > > > > > > > > > >We were successful in obtaining insurance pre-certification for > > > >ambulance transport to and from the outpatient facility due to our > > > >stretcher transportation requirement. > > > > > > > >The insurance policy provides for 60 physical therapy sessions per > > > >year. > > > > > > > >Physical Therapy > > > >Physical therapy is limited to 60 visits per person per calendar > > > >year. Additional visits may be approved if medically necessary. > > > > > > > >The Plan covers short-term outpatient physical therapy to improve > >the > > > >patient's ability to perform tasks required for independent > > > >functioning when function has been temporarily lost and can be > > > >restored: i.e., strokes, cerebrovascular accidents. A licensed > > > >therapy provider, under the direction of a physician, must > > > >perform the services. > > > > > > > >Rehabilitation services that are not expected to result in > > > >significant physical improvement in your condition within two > > > >months and treatments that cease to be therapeutic and are > > > >administered to maintain a level of functioning or to prevent > > > >a medical problem from occurring or recurring of the start of > > > >treatment are not covered. > > > > > > > >What we did: > > > > > > > >1. Obtained referral from primary care physician to HBO facility > >and > > > >doctor. > > > > > > > >2. Obtained referral from primary care physician for Physical > > > >Therapy. > > > > > > > >3. Developed a comprehensive treatment plan in which physical > >therapy > > > >was primary treatment and HBOT was an adjunct catalyistic therapy. > > > > > > > >Submitted treatment plan to insurance for pre-certification (5 > >days > > > >advance notice requirement.) > > > > > > > >Received approval ... > > > > > > > >------------ FOR HBOT PROVIDERS ---------------------------- > > > >Please consider bringing in physical therapy services to your > > > >facility. Consider developing comprehensive treatment plans > > > >primarily focused on physical therapy with HBOT as an adjunct > > > >treatment. Develop different treatment plans for various > > > >injuries,ie. stroke, diabetes, children, elderly etc... > > > > > > > >If planned and presented properly you should be able to receive > > > >precertifications for treatments and the ability to provide > >services > > > >to a broader spectrum of patients. > > > > > > > > > > > >------------ FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID --------------------- > > > > > > > >Medicare helps pay for medically necessary outpatient physical and > > > >occupational therapy and speech-language pathology services when: > > > > > > > > > > > >Your doctor or therapist sets up the plan of treatment, and > > > >Your doctor periodically reviews the plan to see how long you will > > > >get therapy. > > > > > > > >You can get outpatient services from a participating hospital or > > > >skilled nursing facility, or from a participating home health > >agency, > > > >rehabilitation agency, or public health agency. Also, you can get > > > >services from a Medicare-approved physical or occupational > >therapist, > > > >in private practice while in his or her office or in your home. > > > >Medicare doesn't pay for services given by a speech pathologist in > > > >private practice. There is no limit to the amount of medically > > > >necessary outpatient physical therapy, occupational therapy, or > > > >speech-language pathology services you may receive. You can get > >these > > > >services from any Medicare-approved outpatient provider. > > > > > > > >http://www.medicare.gov/Coverage/Home.asp > > > > > > > >Update: Beginning January 1, 2006, financial limitation of therapy > > > >services (therapy caps) will be implemented. The dollar amount > >for > > > >the 2006 limitation on physical therapy and speech-language > >pathology > > > >services from January 1, 2006, through December 31, 2006, will be > > > >$1,740.00. > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >- > > > >Summary: > > > > > > > >HBOT is not a primary treatment for any condition. HBOT is a > >small > > > >adjunct catalyistic therapy critical to effectuate the overall > > > >comprehensive treatment plan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > > > " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper you >and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. " [ >29:11] >_._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. >Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association >http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf > >Is HBOT at your hospital? >http://apps.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/directories/index.cfm > >EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html > >Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy >medicaid/files/ , > 2/files/ and >http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm > >Download your state EPSDT program >http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the >word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites >http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver >programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html > >Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, >http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, >http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm > >HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to > by sending a blank email to >mailto:medicaid-subscribe >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 >Friend or foe to medicaid? She's a friend. A good friend. -- Freels 2948 Windfield Circle Tucker, GA 30084-6714 770-491-6776 (phone) 404-725-4520 (cell) 815-366-7962 (fax) mailto:dfreels@... http://www.freelanceforum.org/df Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Thank you. Just sent off an e-mail about our application for Medicaid to this friend. Sent it in last week with much help from Medicaid office. As soon as I have it in my hand, I will tell all how it was accomplished in hopes that maybe God is directing us through the back door to get this paid. I am trying to share info but cautious until it is officially approved. Anyone else wanting the information please feel free to e-mail me personally at judith_burkholder@... or info@... >From: Freels <dfreels@...> >Reply-medicaid >medicaid >Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1409 >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:26:34 -0500 > > >Friend or foe to medicaid? > > >She's a friend. A good friend. >-- > > > Freels >2948 Windfield Circle >Tucker, GA 30084-6714 >770-491-6776 (phone) >404-725-4520 (cell) >815-366-7962 (fax) >mailto:dfreels@... > >http://www.freelanceforum.org/df Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 To Whom It May Concern: We have just received our official notice of approval to be Medicaid providers. We have become providers under " Medical Supplier " . We have a pharmacy license, so the Medicaid office in the State of Ohio instructed us to apply as such. The changed their form for us because we did not fall under any of the sub-categories. They added the category of " pharmacy-clinic " and will this next week be assisting us in billing for the sale of medical oxygen. I am unsure at this moment, but I suspect that we will also be able to bill for administration (just not for HBOT). This will serve to cover a lot of the bill for families that are on Medicaid but are not being reimbursed through HBOT. If you would like more info, I would be glad to pass it on. Respectfully, Judith Ann Burkholder RN Clinic Director Sara's Garden 620 West Leggett St. Wauseon, Ohio 43567 (419) 335-SARA(7272) [ ] Insurance Approval for HBOT > > >Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:06 -0000 > > > > > >We were able to obtain Insurance pre-certification for HBOT from > > >United Healthcare. HBOT was presented as a small adjunct >catalyistic > > >therapy critical to effectuate the overall comprehensive treatment > > >plan consisting primarily of physical therapy. > > > > > > > > >We were successful in obtaining insurance pre-certification for > > >ambulance transport to and from the outpatient facility due to our > > >stretcher transportation requirement. > > > > > >The insurance policy provides for 60 physical therapy sessions per > > >year. > > > > > >Physical Therapy > > >Physical therapy is limited to 60 visits per person per calendar > > >year. Additional visits may be approved if medically necessary. > > > > > >The Plan covers short-term outpatient physical therapy to improve >the > > >patient's ability to perform tasks required for independent > > >functioning when function has been temporarily lost and can be > > >restored: i.e., strokes, cerebrovascular accidents. A licensed > > >therapy provider, under the direction of a physician, must > > >perform the services. > > > > > >Rehabilitation services that are not expected to result in > > >significant physical improvement in your condition within two > > >months and treatments that cease to be therapeutic and are > > >administered to maintain a level of functioning or to prevent > > >a medical problem from occurring or recurring of the start of > > >treatment are not covered. > > > > > >What we did: > > > > > >1. Obtained referral from primary care physician to HBO facility >and > > >doctor. > > > > > >2. Obtained referral from primary care physician for Physical > > >Therapy. > > > > > >3. Developed a comprehensive treatment plan in which physical >therapy > > >was primary treatment and HBOT was an adjunct catalyistic therapy. > > > > > >Submitted treatment plan to insurance for pre-certification (5 >days > > >advance notice requirement.) > > > > > >Received approval ... > > > > > >------------ FOR HBOT PROVIDERS ---------------------------- > > >Please consider bringing in physical therapy services to your > > >facility. Consider developing comprehensive treatment plans > > >primarily focused on physical therapy with HBOT as an adjunct > > >treatment. Develop different treatment plans for various > > >injuries,ie. stroke, diabetes, children, elderly etc... > > > > > >If planned and presented properly you should be able to receive > > >precertifications for treatments and the ability to provide >services > > >to a broader spectrum of patients. > > > > > > > > >------------ FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID --------------------- > > > > > >Medicare helps pay for medically necessary outpatient physical and > > >occupational therapy and speech-language pathology services when: > > > > > > > > >Your doctor or therapist sets up the plan of treatment, and > > >Your doctor periodically reviews the plan to see how long you will > > >get therapy. > > > > > >You can get outpatient services from a participating hospital or > > >skilled nursing facility, or from a participating home health >agency, > > >rehabilitation agency, or public health agency. Also, you can get > > >services from a Medicare-approved physical or occupational >therapist, > > >in private practice while in his or her office or in your home. > > >Medicare doesn't pay for services given by a speech pathologist in > > >private practice. There is no limit to the amount of medically > > >necessary outpatient physical therapy, occupational therapy, or > > >speech-language pathology services you may receive. You can get >these > > >services from any Medicare-approved outpatient provider. > > > > > >http://www.medicare.gov/Coverage/Home.asp > > > > > >Update: Beginning January 1, 2006, financial limitation of therapy > > >services (therapy caps) will be implemented. The dollar amount >for > > >the 2006 limitation on physical therapy and speech-language >pathology > > >services from January 1, 2006, through December 31, 2006, will be > > >$1,740.00. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >- > > >Summary: > > > > > >HBOT is not a primary treatment for any condition. HBOT is a >small > > >adjunct catalyistic therapy critical to effectuate the overall > > >comprehensive treatment plan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. " [ 29:11] _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf Is HBOT at your hospital? http://apps.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/directories/index.cfm EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ , 2/files/ and http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. 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Guest guest Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hey Y-All , Calling all that need or want some milk kefir grains. $ 10.50 for 1/4 cup AND that includes shipping via USPS Priority folks. Please send me a private email (offlist) for more info or request grains. Sorry, milk kefir grains shippment within USA only. be well y-all, Rae in Idaho THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA JULY 4, 1776 to NOVEMBER 4, 2008 ~~~ RIP ~~~ Politicians should be allowed only two terms, one in office and the other in JAIL ! & quot;It & #39;s a & #39;Goat & #39;s World & #39; and my job is to get them Hay & amp; Grain! & quot; Homemade-Handmade Goat & #39;s Milk Soap pays for their upkeep... if interrested send email to - TwoOldGoatsSoaps@... Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God. ________________________________ From: & quot; & quot; & lt; & gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:59 AM Subject: Digest Number 1409 Marilyn Kefirlady & #39;s Kefir Grain Exchange Messages In This Digest (3 Messages) 1. Grains available! From: Liz 2a. Re: White House Raw Milk Petition From: Jane 3.1. Re: Raw Milk Petition and Genetically Modified Foods From: Bird View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. Grains available! Posted by: & quot;Liz & quot; bizznic@... bizznic Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:36 pm (PDT) Hi everyone! I have both water and milk kefir grains available right now - they & #39;re growing like crazy! Here & #39;s what I & #39;m asking for them: Milk: 1/4 cup: $15 1 tsp: free! Water: 1/4 cup: $10 1 tsp: free! flat shipping for whatever amount you want of either (up to the max I have available): $5 Send me an e-mail with your name, address, and how much and what kind you & #39;d like. I will trust you guys to send payment by mail, or you can use paypal (though my paypal e-mail is different than this one, so let me know if you want to use that option.) Liz Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2a. Re: White House Raw Milk Petition Posted by: & quot; Jane & quot; mjr47@... mrshumes Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:36 pm (PDT) I sent out the link to my newsletter list. Warmly, Jane Humes http://www.raw- food-diet- magazine. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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