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Hi Kari-

I had an awful burning pain through the back of my neck, shoulders and

back along with stiffness and achiness. Later, it progressed and went

down my left arm. Eventually, I lost all feeling in most of my left

hand and all feeling in my thumb and forefinger. The other digits

tingled. This wasn't constant but seemed to be cyclic and became more

and more severe as the years went by. I had it for many years post-RAI

after my thyroid no longer functioned but it's been gone since I've

supplemented with T3.

My circumstances were different from yours since this occurred for me

long after my goiter was gone and I had no thyroid function left.

Take care,

Utecht

Kari Sagen wrote:

>

>

>

> I have an odd question. From time to time my neck gets really stiff

> in the back and sides, and following that, my ribs and back as well

> get stiff and sore. I think it's probably how I sleep, but it often

> follows bouts of swollen goiter. Does anyone else ever get this? In

> relation to Graves, I mean. The sides of my neck are just *killing*

> me today, but I wonder if it's how I slept, or if it's my thyroid.

>

> Just wondering.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kari

>

> ---------------------------

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, you said that you felt these symptoms post Ria. It sounds like

fibromyalgia like symptoms. When I started to feel hypo(despite being

called subclinical hyper) I also had severe pain in neck shoulders, back ,

arms and legs. I also had carpal tunnel like syndrome with tingling and

numbness in my hands. It's interesting that you said that when you went on

T3 your symptoms subsided. With me because I haven't been nuked yet, my

thyroid started to kick in again, and when my numbers started to rise again

the symptoms lessened. I still believe that I have true fibromyalgia and

possible arthritis ( my Mom died in Feb due to complications of Rheum

arthritis) but at least I don't have as much pain. Maybe Kari is started to

feel some hypo symptoms as her numbers begin to drop.

Re: (graves_support) Strange question

>

>

> Hi Kari-

>

> I had an awful burning pain through the back of my neck, shoulders and

> back along with stiffness and achiness. Later, it progressed and went

> down my left arm. Eventually, I lost all feeling in most of my left

> hand and all feeling in my thumb and forefinger. The other digits

> tingled. This wasn't constant but seemed to be cyclic and became more

> and more severe as the years went by. I had it for many years post-RAI

> after my thyroid no longer functioned but it's been gone since I've

> supplemented with T3.

>

> My circumstances were different from yours since this occurred for me

> long after my goiter was gone and I had no thyroid function left.

>

> Take care,

>

> Utecht

>

> Kari Sagen wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > I have an odd question. From time to time my neck gets really

stiff

> > in the back and sides, and following that, my ribs and back as well

> > get stiff and sore. I think it's probably how I sleep, but it

often

> > follows bouts of swollen goiter. Does anyone else ever get this?

In

> > relation to Graves, I mean. The sides of my neck are just

*killing*

> > me today, but I wonder if it's how I slept, or if it's my thyroid.

> >

> > Just wondering.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kari

> >

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Hi -

This is fascinating. I do know that they don't really know what

fibromyalgia really is (kind of like chronic fatigue syndrome). I

wonder if it can be caused by thyroid imbalances in either direction. I

know of a few hyperthyroid patients with it too.

Take care,

Iannuzzi wrote:

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>

>

> , you said that you felt these symptoms post Ria. It sounds like

> fibromyalgia like symptoms. When I started to feel hypo(despite being

> called subclinical hyper) I also had severe pain in neck shoulders, back ,

> arms and legs. I also had carpal tunnel like syndrome with tingling and

> numbness in my hands. It's interesting that you said that when you went on

> T3 your symptoms subsided. With me because I haven't been nuked yet, my

> thyroid started to kick in again, and when my numbers started to rise again

> the symptoms lessened. I still believe that I have true fibromyalgia and

> possible arthritis ( my Mom died in Feb due to complications of Rheum

> arthritis) but at least I don't have as much pain. Maybe Kari is started to

> feel some hypo symptoms as her numbers begin to drop.

>

> Re: (graves_support) Strange question

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Kari-

> >

> > I had an awful burning pain through the back of my neck, shoulders and

> > back along with stiffness and achiness. Later, it progressed and went

> > down my left arm. Eventually, I lost all feeling in most of my left

> > hand and all feeling in my thumb and forefinger. The other digits

> > tingled. This wasn't constant but seemed to be cyclic and became more

> > and more severe as the years went by. I had it for many years post-RAI

> > after my thyroid no longer functioned but it's been gone since I've

> > supplemented with T3.

> >

> > My circumstances were different from yours since this occurred for me

> > long after my goiter was gone and I had no thyroid function left.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Utecht

> >

> > Kari Sagen wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have an odd question. From time to time my neck gets really

> stiff

> > > in the back and sides, and following that, my ribs and back as well

> > > get stiff and sore. I think it's probably how I sleep, but it

> often

> > > follows bouts of swollen goiter. Does anyone else ever get this?

> In

> > > relation to Graves, I mean. The sides of my neck are just

> *killing*

> > > me today, but I wonder if it's how I slept, or if it's my thyroid.

> > >

> > > Just wondering.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Kari

> > >

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Hi -

I had to rush off to pick up my son and didn't get to the second part of

your letter.

Did they check you for rheumatoid arthritis yet? All these diseases

have a genetic component but they can delay some of the degeneration if

inflammation is kept to a minimum.

On the other hand, I was diagnosed with arthritis too (non-rheumatoid-I

tested negative) which also disappeared when I supplemented with T3. I

have a problem effectively converting T4 (replacement hormone) to T3

(active hormone). My T3 levels were very low. No one recognized it as

a cause of many of my symptoms until recently. I had had symptoms for

many years before then and saw lots of specialists. But they all tried

to treat them independently. I finally got relief with the help of a

very knowledgeable endocrinologist (Why not look there? I had no

thyroid function and thyroid hormone is needed for metabolism by every

cell in your body).

I'm very sorry about the loss of your mother. I just lost mine this

past August and I still can't believe it.

Take care,

Iannuzzi wrote:

>

>

>

> , you said that you felt these symptoms post Ria. It sounds like

> fibromyalgia like symptoms. When I started to feel hypo(despite being

> called subclinical hyper) I also had severe pain in neck shoulders, back ,

> arms and legs. I also had carpal tunnel like syndrome with tingling and

> numbness in my hands. It's interesting that you said that when you went on

> T3 your symptoms subsided. With me because I haven't been nuked yet, my

> thyroid started to kick in again, and when my numbers started to rise again

> the symptoms lessened. I still believe that I have true fibromyalgia and

> possible arthritis ( my Mom died in Feb due to complications of Rheum

> arthritis) but at least I don't have as much pain. Maybe Kari is started to

> feel some hypo symptoms as her numbers begin to drop.

>

> Re: (graves_support) Strange question

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Kari-

> >

> > I had an awful burning pain through the back of my neck, shoulders and

> > back along with stiffness and achiness. Later, it progressed and went

> > down my left arm. Eventually, I lost all feeling in most of my left

> > hand and all feeling in my thumb and forefinger. The other digits

> > tingled. This wasn't constant but seemed to be cyclic and became more

> > and more severe as the years went by. I had it for many years post-RAI

> > after my thyroid no longer functioned but it's been gone since I've

> > supplemented with T3.

> >

> > My circumstances were different from yours since this occurred for me

> > long after my goiter was gone and I had no thyroid function left.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Utecht

> >

> > Kari Sagen wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have an odd question. From time to time my neck gets really

> stiff

> > > in the back and sides, and following that, my ribs and back as well

> > > get stiff and sore. I think it's probably how I sleep, but it

> often

> > > follows bouts of swollen goiter. Does anyone else ever get this?

> In

> > > relation to Graves, I mean. The sides of my neck are just

> *killing*

> > > me today, but I wonder if it's how I slept, or if it's my thyroid.

> > >

> > > Just wondering.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Kari

> > >

> > > ---------------------------

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Hi ,

Got your message. Been busy putting mounds of snow clothing on and off

today. First snow fall of the season in Jersey. Regarding arthritis, I

also test sero negative with sed rates in the teens. It's funny because my

Mom was also sero-negative but definitely had rheumatory arthritis. She

also had Sjogren's and probable Lupus. My sister is ANA positive with lupus

like syndrome. So this family is full of auto-immune problems. My

rheumatologist has technically called it sero-neg arthritis with

fibromyalgia. She questions all my thyroid symptoms coinciding with these.

This all came out last spring after having a bout mono in Fall '98 and going

through terrible ordeal with my Mom. Vasculitis with arthritis is awful.

The inflammation attacks every organ in your body like lupus. My Mom was in

and out with problems for a year with misdiagnosis af alzheimers. Turned

out she was having strokes from the vasculitis. Before they could manage

her with meds her colon perforated and she had emergency surgery. She ended

up coding twice in postop and died 4 weeks lated never coming out of the

coma. I am a pediatric ICU RN so this made this even worse for me dealing

with being a daughter and a nurse. I suffered post tramatic stress

afterwards. But my thyroid levels were the lowest in years. My T4 was 8.5

FreeT4 1.1 T3 143 and Free T3 325. These are all within normal ranges but

my TSH was undetectable. Because of this all the endos said I was still

subclinically hyper and all my hypo symptoms must be autoimmune. They can't

explain why when my Free T4 went up to 1.6 and Free T3 to 450 and feel alot

better. I can clearly see a correlation but endos only see numbers. One

endo thinks my total T4 needs to be about 5 before I see TSH. Maybe but I

don't want to take the chance of being hypo again just to find out. I think

I will stay where I am for awhile using PTU when I truly feel hyper not when

the numbers read so. Oh, I am getting wordy. I also heard you can have

fibromyalgia with hyper because of the imbalance of hormones regulating your

whole body. I guess you can't win so we might as well deal with it. Got

to wash the kids,

P.S. Feb 7th is one year since Mom passed on and I sometimes still can't

believe it. There isn't a day that passes that I don't think of her. I can

empathize with you. If you to chat , send me a line, I'm a great listener.

Re: (graves_support) Strange question

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Kari-

> > >

> > > I had an awful burning pain through the back of my neck, shoulders and

> > > back along with stiffness and achiness. Later, it progressed and went

> > > down my left arm. Eventually, I lost all feeling in most of my left

> > > hand and all feeling in my thumb and forefinger. The other digits

> > > tingled. This wasn't constant but seemed to be cyclic and became more

> > > and more severe as the years went by. I had it for many years

post-RAI

> > > after my thyroid no longer functioned but it's been gone since I've

> > > supplemented with T3.

> > >

> > > My circumstances were different from yours since this occurred for me

> > > long after my goiter was gone and I had no thyroid function left.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > >

> > > Utecht

> > >

> > > Kari Sagen wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have an odd question. From time to time my neck gets really

> > stiff

> > > > in the back and sides, and following that, my ribs and back as

well

> > > > get stiff and sore. I think it's probably how I sleep, but it

> > often

> > > > follows bouts of swollen goiter. Does anyone else ever get

this?

> > In

> > > > relation to Graves, I mean. The sides of my neck are just

> > *killing*

> > > > me today, but I wonder if it's how I slept, or if it's my

thyroid.

> > > >

> > > > Just wondering.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Kari

> > > >

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> > > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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> > > -------------------------------------

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> > intended to replace expert medical care.

> > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> > > ----------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> >

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I was down with a bad flu the 1st week of the year, but it was survivable.

Southern California was hit pretty hard. Thanks for asking.

At 06:40 AM 01/21/1973 -0600, you wrote:

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>Hi Gang, As the flu has ahlf the world down. How many of you Graves

>people are OK?

>

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