Re: Indian pharmacies...

[Guest guest]

> Forgive me for just jumping in,

> especially when most of the time I am more of a lurker here,

> but I have a question.

No forgiveness required. You are certainly welcome to ask, and

your question and its answer are probably of interest to a lot of

others as well.

> My drug plan is now imposing a copay

> on my Cialis that I am not sure we can afford. They also

> limit me to six per month, less than my urologist would like

> me to be taking, and really irritating to deal with just

> when I am beginning to see the tiniest (and I mean tiniest)

> signs that it is working for me.

> I want to know what kind of experiences others have had

> with Indian pharmacies, which ones, and what kind of costs I

> can expect. You don't have to answer here and clutter up the

> group with something I think has been covered before, just

> send me a backchannel message.

> Thanks for any help, guys.

I have used:

http://www.alldaychemist.com/

http://overseasrxdrugs.com/

I was satisfied with both of them.

A poster in another newsgroup mentioned:

http://www.planetdrugsdirect.com

When I ordered from alldaychemist, they would not ship Cialis to

the US, only generics for Viagra and Levitra. I don't know the

reason but I would speculate that India has no drug patent

agreement with the US but does with Australia, where I believe

Cialis was patented.

Prices depended on quantity ordered and on whether they were

running a promotion. I got 20 mg generic Levitra tablets for a

little over a dollar each in a special sale. Typical prices were

about $2, but you'll find current prices on the website.

It seemed to me to work just the same as the American brands -

same side effects, same (small) positive effect on potency.

Packaging was reasonably good and looked like it came from a drug

factory, rather than someone's kitchen.

Shipping is slow and expensive, so the best deal is to buy a

sizeable order since I think the shipping price is about the same

for 10 pills or 50 pills.

I always bought the biggest doses I could get and then cut them

with a pill cutter (you can get one in a drug store). 100 mg of

Viagra gave me a headache and seemed to work about the same as 50

mg, but the cost of 100 mg is much less than double the cost of

50 mg pills, so I bought the 100's and cut them in half. If you

want to use them daily, you may want to cut them in quarters or

even more.

Best of luck with the problem. ly, my wife and I have

discovered that sex without penetration can be just as terrific

as sex with it. Things change, but we've adapted. Life is still

good.

Alan

[Guest guest]

Alan, thank you for your quick and helpful response.

I went to the sites you listed, and as you said, one doesn't ship to the US. The

other two charge a lot more per pill than my copay, and that's before shipping

costs.

Here's the more complete situation. I used Muse, Tri-Mix injections and Viagra

before. Muse caused erections but the burning it gave me wasn't very " romantic " .

Viagra had no effect at all. The injections I don't like because I have very

little " real estate " to inject properly. I was never pornstar-sized exactly, I

lost a lot of length with the RARP, and there's a large surface vein; also it's

where I can't see it well with or without my glasses. Besides, if I regularly

inject such a small area, I could risk significant scarring. The Cialis

response, while small, is real and encouraging. My insurance limits all such

drugs to 6 per month. The copay is not horrible but there's no way around the

rationing. I know if I could get more, it would work better.

I wish that I could enjoy sex without erections. I could please my wife, but I

am left with such a short shaft that without getting hard, there's no fun in it

for me.

If anyone wants to share some more pharmacies, ideas or anything else relevant,

I welcome hearing from you.

" Forgive me for just jumping in, especially when most of the time I am more of a

lurker here, but I have a question. "

No forgiveness required. You are certainly welcome to ask, and your question and

its answer are probably of interest to a lot of others as well.

" My drug plan is now imposing a copay on my Cialis that I am not sure we can

afford. They also limit me to six per month, less than my urologist would like

me to be taking, and really irritating to deal with just when I am beginning to

see the tiniest (and I mean tiniest) signs that it is working for me. I want to

know what kind of experiences others have had with Indian pharmacies, which

ones, and what kind of costs I can expect. You don't have to answer here and

clutter up the group with something I think has been covered before, just send

me a backchannel message. Thanks for any help, guys. "

I have used:

http://www.alldaychemist.com/ http://overseasrxdrugs.com/

I was satisfied with both of them.

A poster in another newsgroup mentioned:

http://www.planetdrugsdirect.com

When I ordered from alldaychemist, they would not ship Cialis to the US, only

generics for Viagra and Levitra. I don't know the reason but I would speculate

that India has no drug patent agreement with the US but does with Australia,

where I believe Cialis was patented.

Prices depended on quantity ordered and on whether they were running a

promotion. I got 20 mg generic Levitra tablets for a little over a dollar each

in a special sale. Typical prices were about $2, but you'll find current prices

on the website.

It seemed to me to work just the same as the American brands - same side

effects, same (small) positive effect on potency. Packaging was reasonably good

and looked like it came from a drug factory, rather than someone's kitchen.

Shipping is slow and expensive, so the best deal is to buy a sizeable order

since I think the shipping price is about the same for 10 pills or 50 pills.

I always bought the biggest doses I could get and then cut them with a pill

cutter (you can get one in a drug store). 100 mg of Viagra gave me a headache

and seemed to work about the same as 50 mg, but the cost of 100 mg is much less

than double the cost of

50 mg pills, so I bought the 100's and cut them in half. If you want to use them

daily, you may want to cut them in quarters or even more.

Best of luck with the problem. ly, my wife and I have discovered that sex

without penetration can be just as terrific as sex with it. Things change, but

we've adapted. Life is still good.

Alan

[Guest guest]

Henry, thanks for the suggestion. I have looked into vacuum devices and they are

not " what the doctor ordered " in any sense of the term. They are not good for

penile rehab because all they do is mechanically draw blood into the penis and

don't have any effect on the physiology; the various drugs cause the arteries to

fill the penis and then clamp themselves down to maintain an erection. The pump

needs a ring to keep the blood in. Since Cialis is starting to have an effect

switching from a physiologic method, a drug, to a simple mechanical method could

simply wipe out any gains I am making. I could be kidding myself about the

Cialis, though. I am more than two years out from the surgery, and if I were

going to regain function on my own, the two to three year window is a very

likely time for it to happen. In either case, I will stick with what seems to be

working for me and not mess with success, however limited.

- Dave

" Forgive me for just jumping in,

especially when most of the time I am more of a lurker here, but I have a

question. " No forgiveness required. You are certainly welcome to ask, and your

question and its answer are probably of interest to a lot of others as well.

" My drug plan is now imposing a copay on my Cialis that I am not sure we can

afford. They also limit me to six per month, less than my urologist would like

me to be taking, and really irritating to deal with just when I am beginning to

see the tiniest (and I mean tiniest) signs that it is working for me. I want to

know what kind of experiences others have had with Indian pharmacies, which

ones, and what kind of costs I can expect. You don't have to answer here and

clutter up the group with something I think has been covered before, just send

me a backchannel message. Thanks for any help, guys. "

I have used: http://www.alldaychemist.com/ http://overseasrxdrugs.com/ I was

satisfied with both of them. A poster in another newsgroup mentioned:

http://www.planetdrugsdirect.com When I ordered from alldaychemist, they would

not ship Cialis to the US, only generics for Viagra and Levitra. I don't know

the reason but I would speculate that India has no drug patent agreement with

the US but does with Australia, where I believe Cialis was patented. Prices

depended on quantity ordered and on whether they were running a promotion. I got

20 mg generic Levitra tablets for a little over a dollar each in a special sale.

Typical prices were about $2, but you'll find current prices on the website. It

seemed to me to work just the same as the American brands - same side effects,

same (small) positive effect on potency. Packaging was reasonably good and

looked like it came from a drug factory, rather than someone's kitchen. Shipping

is slow and expensive, so the best deal is to buy a sizeable order since I think

the shipping price is about the same for 10 pills or 50 pills. I always bought

the biggest doses I could get and then cut them with a pill cutter (you can get

one in a drug store). 100 mg of Viagra gave me a headache and seemed to work

about the same as 50 mg, but the cost of 100 mg is much less than double the

cost of

50 mg pills, so I bought the 100's and cut them in half. If you want to use them

daily, you may want to cut them in quarters or even more. Best of luck with the

problem. ly, my wife and I have discovered that sex without penetration can

be just as terrific as sex with it. Things change, but we've adapted. Life is

still good. Alan

[Guest guest]

Dave:

I am in about the same place as you, but I am now 65 yo and it is 5 years after

RP. The vacuum pump did give me a great erection- I'll bet it would work on a

cadaver!!

But putting the ring on left me with something that never would result in an

orgasm. Erections are one thing, but orgasms are rarely discussed and are quite

another.

Don't give up after two years. My erections steadily improved for 4-5 years.

Viagra et al never worked but trimix (bimix actually) worked pretty well for

years 1-3. I have limited equipment as well but injecting a couple of times a

week didn't bother me.

Now I can get a usable erection without aids but it takes psychological

stimulation as well as physical.

Another issue rarely discussed is urinating while having sex. The bladder

sphincter which you no longer have, controls urine during orgasm. The body

automatically relaxes the other sphincter (to let semen pass) but it also lets

urine by without the bladder sphincter to block it. Empty your bladder before

sex. It helps to have an understanding partner.

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not knocking vacuum pumps but switching to one

when the Cialis seems to be working seems like a step back. If I don't improve

over time I'll think about it. I do have orgasms because I am able to

masturbate, sort of. I don't leak when I do, and I am surprised how intense

about half the orgasms are. Of course the other half is " That was an orgasm??? "

I don't have to worry about psychological stimulation; I have lots of great

memories, wild fantasies, free Internet porn, not to mention how crazy I am for

my wife. Well, keep on trucking, and whatever rhymes with " trucking " .

- Dave

Dave:

I am in about the same place as you, but I am now 65 yo and it is 5 years after

RP. The vacuum pump did give me a great erection- I'll bet it would work on a

cadaver!!

But putting the ring on left me with something that never would result in an

orgasm. Erections are one thing, but orgasms are rarely discussed and are quite

another.

Don't give up after two years. My erections steadily improved for 4-5 years.

Viagra et al never worked but trimix (bimix actually) worked pretty well for

years 1-3. I have limited equipment as well but injecting a couple of times a

week didn't bother me.

Now I can get a usable erection without aids but it takes psychological

stimulation as well as physical.

Another issue rarely discussed is urinating while having sex. The bladder

sphincter which you no longer have, controls urine during orgasm. The body

automatically relaxes the other sphincter (to let semen pass) but it also lets

urine by without the bladder sphincter to block it. Empty your bladder before

sex. It helps to have an understanding partner.

[Guest guest]

Alan and all,

I have been purchasing generic Cialis made in India for $110/30 pills from

Online Canadian Meds of Alberta, Canada. Unfortunately that vendor has been

bought out by Global Drug Supply of St. , Barbados, whose prices are five

times higher (no cheaper than US vendors). I clicked on the links you provided,

but each one triggered a warning message from my browser's Web Of Trust plug-in

( http://www.mywot.com/ ) indicating that those vendors are unreliable.

I wonder if any other members of this group can recommend a reliable overseas

vendor of Indian generic pharmaceuticals?

>

> > Forgive me for just jumping in,

> > especially when most of the time I am more of a lurker here,

> > but I have a question.

>

> No forgiveness required. You are certainly welcome to ask, and

> your question and its answer are probably of interest to a lot of

> others as well.

>

> > My drug plan is now imposing a copay

> > on my Cialis that I am not sure we can afford. They also

> > limit me to six per month, less than my urologist would like

> > me to be taking, and really irritating to deal with just

> > when I am beginning to see the tiniest (and I mean tiniest)

> > signs that it is working for me.

> > I want to know what kind of experiences others have had

> > with Indian pharmacies, which ones, and what kind of costs I

> > can expect. You don't have to answer here and clutter up the

> > group with something I think has been covered before, just

> > send me a backchannel message.

> > Thanks for any help, guys.

>

> I have used:

>

> http://www.alldaychemist.com/

> http://overseasrxdrugs.com/

>

> I was satisfied with both of them.

>

> A poster in another newsgroup mentioned:

>

> http://www.planetdrugsdirect.com

>

> When I ordered from alldaychemist, they would not ship Cialis to

> the US, only generics for Viagra and Levitra. I don't know the

> reason but I would speculate that India has no drug patent

> agreement with the US but does with Australia, where I believe

> Cialis was patented.

>

> Prices depended on quantity ordered and on whether they were

> running a promotion. I got 20 mg generic Levitra tablets for a

> little over a dollar each in a special sale. Typical prices were

> about $2, but you'll find current prices on the website.

>

> It seemed to me to work just the same as the American brands -

> same side effects, same (small) positive effect on potency.

> Packaging was reasonably good and looked like it came from a drug

> factory, rather than someone's kitchen.

>

> Shipping is slow and expensive, so the best deal is to buy a

> sizeable order since I think the shipping price is about the same

> for 10 pills or 50 pills.

>

> I always bought the biggest doses I could get and then cut them

> with a pill cutter (you can get one in a drug store). 100 mg of

> Viagra gave me a headache and seemed to work about the same as 50

> mg, but the cost of 100 mg is much less than double the cost of

> 50 mg pills, so I bought the 100's and cut them in half. If you

> want to use them daily, you may want to cut them in quarters or

> even more.

>

> Best of luck with the problem. ly, my wife and I have

> discovered that sex without penetration can be just as terrific

> as sex with it. Things change, but we've adapted. Life is still

> good.

>

> Alan

>