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hi Lacey,

just checked out his latest photos ... sooooo cute! he looks so grown up, is

he walking about already??

good luck with the implant

Jo

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> posted new photos of Luke and he is so adorable, I REALLY think

> everyone should check him out. Its his first set of profesional

> photos, and he is just so photogenic

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Lacey,

COngrats on the upcoming cochlear implant surgery! I'll be thinking

of you guys. And the pics are just beautiful. I remember when I had

's first professinal photos...it was a very big even in our house!

Barbara, mom to , almost 3 years old

> Horrah!! My sweet Lucas is getting a cochlear implant in just 2

1/2

> weeks. Despite a process that seemed like it would go on forever,

> we heard today that Luke will have his implant at just 16 months

> old!! His heart surgery wont need to be done for some months, so

> hopefully by then we will be able to comfort him with our voices.

I

> posted new photos of Luke and he is so adorable, I REALLY think

> everyone should check him out. Its his first set of profesional

> photos, and he is just so photogenic! (Okay so he has had a

> relapse in his drinking, but today I just dont care!!!) Lacey

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Rose, thanks for all of the info and advise. I have contacted the House Ear

Institute in Los Angeles and the girl on the phone that I spoke with wanted me

to wait until about June to start being evaluated, as Whitney will be a year

old in July. Her ENT is requesting the CT scan and MRI now and I hope to

maybe start the rest of the evaluation sooner than June. I understand that it

won't work for everyone, but it seems worth looking into. Thanks again,

DeAnn Mom to Austin 8, 5, and CHARgE Whitney 6 months

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Speaking from the parental point of view, my son has a cochlear

implant and it has helped him enormously. He is talking but has

problems with articulation. Not all kids have the same types of oral

motor problems that my child has. His speech production has been

slow and we recently found out that was because he has apraxia of

speech which no deaf ed/speech path professional detected until he

was five years old???????????

Apparently not all speech pathologists are created equal. Some

speech pathologsts are good at auditory discrimination and some are

good at speech production. We were going to the wrong type for a

long time. There is also another type of speech path (I have yet to

find one but it involves also working with the muscles of the face

to strengthen speech production - (myo - something speech path).

Anyway, he hears very well and comprehension is very good. The

implant has been of great benefit to him and us.

Each child is different. You will need to seek out a Cochlear

Implant Center immediately and have your child evaluated by a

pediatric cochlear implant surgeon and the cochlear implant

audiology team. Technology is changing so fast, there are very

powerful hearing aids available now which may be of similar

benefit. You really need expert medical advice in this area. Good

luck. Rose

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As a parent, in my most humble of opinions, I would just like to add

that if your child is not responding to sound and should be, because

they are hearing something, and the child is young, please seek out

evaluation by a behavior analyst who specializes in autism. Your

child may NOT have autism but due to their MULTI-SENSORY IMPAIRMENTS

may have characteristics that are similar to autism. Our official

diagnosis is " PDD tendencies " and with that medical diagnois we were

able to get ADDITIONAL services in behavior therapy through school

and Judevine and my son has improved so much with that specialized

behavior therapy that he has very few pdd tendencies anymore. I

don't think that would have happened if not for that specific

intervention. It has taught him about action-consequence and action-

reinforcement. Basically, anything that can JUMP START your child

should be utilized at this point. Services are being cut cross the

board for children everywhere - try to get everything you can at

this point. It's all about behavior therpay and positive behavior

support. The intervention does not have to be long - just long

enough to teach them to learn to respond. Rose

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Rose, I completely agree with you. I have been signing to Whitney sense the

beginning. She has amazed us with the ability to sign Mom at 4 months old,

and recently has shown that she understands what the sign means. She is always

looking at her hands, trying to figure out new signs, but, Mom is her only

regular sign. I remember reading on this website, way back, to use any form of

communication that works for your child. I have taken that advice to heart,

and am very grateful. It melts my heart to see her sign Mom whenever a Dr.,

Nurse, or Therapist comes near her. Anyway, I really appreciate all of the

advise on this site.

DeAnn, Mom to Austin 8, 5, and CHARgE Whitney 6 Months

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DeAnn - you are fortunate that you can think about implanting at

such a young age. We had to wait till our son was almost 2 years old.

He was implanted at 19 months and activated at 20 months. We had no

form of communication with our child until then because all

the " experts " at the deaf schools told us he would never learn to

talk if we used signed language and we believed them. He is five

now.

If I were you, I would do all my evals now. If all goes well and

your child has an auditory nerve that works I would push to have

your child implanted for your baby's first birthday. You never know

what other problems will come up at the cochlear implant center.

Cochlear implant scheduling is cumbersome. There is always a

waiting list. There are other ENT emergency's that come up. A

member of your implant team may be unavailable for some time due to

travel or illness (that happened to us) and so you need to be ready

to " GO " as soon as your cleared for the surgery. The sooner your

child has access to sound, the better for you and your family. I

remember when my child heard the telephone ring the first time, he

was frightened and ran to my lap. The first time he heard my laugh,

how he turned his head and smiled.

In the meantime, you should sign with your baby. If you are enrolled

in a deaf school where signing is prohibited - sign secretly. Your

child will gravitate towards whatever form of communication is best

for them. If your child has no other oral motor complications, as

many many parents on this list will tell you, your child will drop

the signs as speak picks up. As a parent, you must present all

communication options available to your baby - whatever it takes to

communicate with your child. I wish I had done that. Learn from my

mistakes. Rose

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I agree with Rose that some of the therapies for autism are awesome in

helping some children. Kendra didn't communicate until she went to a

Behavior Analysis program and it helped immediately. We still have a

long way to go, but that program was dramatic for her in that people

said she was WAY past the window of opportunity to be able to learn to

sign expressively. I don't go by that 'window of opportunity' argument

anymore, needless to say.

I also am of the opinion that autistic traits can be responsive to

various biochemical interventions such as medications, and certain

nutritional supplements under guidance of a trained and qualified health

provider. There's a vast explosion of exciting information and research

right now looking at autism and the autism spectrum.

As for not responding to sound, I think auditory dissynchrony should

also be considered in some children who should be able to hear, but are

not responsive to sound.

There are lots of other therapies that can help with sensory issues, for

example, sensory-integration therapy, cranial-sacral therapy,

osteopathic manipulation, etc.

RE: Cochlear implant

As a parent, in my most humble of opinions, I would just like to add

that if your child is not responding to sound and should be, because

they are hearing something, and the child is young, please seek out

evaluation by a behavior analyst who specializes in autism. Your

child may NOT have autism but due to their MULTI-SENSORY IMPAIRMENTS

may have characteristics that are similar to autism. Our official

diagnosis is " PDD tendencies "

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I agree with Rose that some of the therapies for autism are awesome in

helping some children. Kendra didn't communicate until she went to a

Behavior Analysis program and it helped immediately. We still have a

long way to go, but that program was dramatic for her in that people

said she was WAY past the window of opportunity to be able to learn to

sign expressively. I don't go by that 'window of opportunity' argument

anymore, needless to say.

I also am of the opinion that autistic traits can be responsive to

various biochemical interventions such as medications, and certain

nutritional supplements under guidance of a trained and qualified health

provider. There's a vast explosion of exciting information and research

right now looking at autism and the autism spectrum.

As for not responding to sound, I think auditory dissynchrony should

also be considered in some children who should be able to hear, but are

not responsive to sound.

There are lots of other therapies that can help with sensory issues, for

example, sensory-integration therapy, cranial-sacral therapy,

osteopathic manipulation, etc.

RE: Cochlear implant

As a parent, in my most humble of opinions, I would just like to add

that if your child is not responding to sound and should be, because

they are hearing something, and the child is young, please seek out

evaluation by a behavior analyst who specializes in autism. Your

child may NOT have autism but due to their MULTI-SENSORY IMPAIRMENTS

may have characteristics that are similar to autism. Our official

diagnosis is " PDD tendencies "

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hi DeAnn,

that is soooo cute!!

we've been signing with Josh since he was about 6 months maybe?? , hard to

remember :0) ... he said a 5 word sign sentence last week - i think he is

trying to emulate his big bro who talks non-stop it seems!

the sentence? ... " no sleep, more singing jumping " ... yup he is also

cutting out that day-time nap ;0)

regards,

Jo

ds Ben 4 years old, ds Josh 18 months CHaRGE'r

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> Rose, I completely agree with you. I have been signing to Whitney sense

the

> beginning. She has amazed us with the ability to sign Mom at 4 months

old,

> and recently has shown that she understands what the sign means.

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I totally agree with Rose here, about the signing (which I see your already

doing from your other email), the early eval and the early implantation if

it possible.

With the signing, we are so glad we ignored all the " experts " who told us

not to if she was going to get a CI. At one point we were almost denied a

CI strictly because we signed with . We asked them if they could

guarantee would be able to hear and speak with a CI - they said that

couldn't guarantee that (we knew that ;-) and we replied that we were not

going to deprive our child of communication now, on a " might be " in the

future. We basically called their bluff and they backed down.

Of course we were labeled " Difficult " parents after that point, but in the

end, we were proven right. did not qualify for a CI - a decision made

only a couple of months ago when she was almost 2 yrs old. At this time

she knows at least 40 signs, and can communicate her needs and wants at a

level consistent with any 2 yr old (if not better). Her favorite 2 signs

are " Horse " (which she signs the minute she gets to her preschool to tell

you that she wants to ride the rocking horse) and " Bed " (which she uses to

indicate she wants a pillow or blanket to lay on - she's gotten quite

spoiled that she will not lay on the floor anymore without something soft

under her head). She always gives a cut little giggle when she gets what

she asks for. Kind of a " they UNDERSTAND me " reaction.

I can't imagine if we had not signed with her the beginning - where she

would be emotionally, cognitively, and socially. It makes me pretty angry

to this day. I consider their " advice " borderline abusive. It is nice

that we have since been supported by other " experts " who feel we made the

right decision.

Christian Lobaugh

Husband to Ingrid, Father to (5) and (2 yr old charger)

RE: Cochlear implant

DeAnn - you are fortunate that you can think about implanting at

such a young age. We had to wait till our son was almost 2 years old.

He was implanted at 19 months and activated at 20 months. We had no

form of communication with our child until then because all

the " experts " at the deaf schools told us he would never learn to

talk if we used signed language and we believed them. He is five

now.

If I were you, I would do all my evals now. If all goes well and

your child has an auditory nerve that works I would push to have

your child implanted for your baby's first birthday. You never know

what other problems will come up at the cochlear implant center.

Cochlear implant scheduling is cumbersome. There is always a

waiting list. There are other ENT emergency's that come up. A

member of your implant team may be unavailable for some time due to

travel or illness (that happened to us) and so you need to be ready

to " GO " as soon as your cleared for the surgery. The sooner your

child has access to sound, the better for you and your family. I

remember when my child heard the telephone ring the first time, he

was frightened and ran to my lap. The first time he heard my laugh,

how he turned his head and smiled.

In the meantime, you should sign with your baby. If you are enrolled

in a deaf school where signing is prohibited - sign secretly. Your

child will gravitate towards whatever form of communication is best

for them. If your child has no other oral motor complications, as

many many parents on this list will tell you, your child will drop

the signs as speak picks up. As a parent, you must present all

communication options available to your baby - whatever it takes to

communicate with your child. I wish I had done that. Learn from my

mistakes. Rose

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hi DeAnn,

yeah, it was so cute - even if i was tired and wanted him to have a nap

:0) ... i haven't managed to start teaching him Mum or Dad yet, they looked

a

bit hard, most of the signs he does we've made up ourselves and use pretty

'chunky' or 'large' signs, he is just starting to do more fine motor

things,

so more defined signs will get easier hopefully ... in fact you have

inspired me i'll look up Mum and Dad again (i have just been given a NZSL

dictionary!), and start using those as our next ones to learn, thanks for

the idea, it

would be neat to be signed " mummy " :0)

he does seem to have 'spurts' of coming out with new signs all at once,

" swing " the other day, and i swear he wanted to go to the park while we

were

on our way to the supermarket this morning ... i can hardly believe how

much

easier doing regular things is now!

Jo

ds Ben, ds Josh one and a half years old:0)

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Fantastic! I'm looking forward to that

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DeAnn,

Just to complicate all of your decisions you have to make, I want to put in

my vote for using cued speech at this early age if you plan to implant your

child. Cued speech teaches your child phonics and English and makes an easy

transiton for your child to move to spoken English later on. Cued speech could

give

your daughter a complete understanding of English before she can hear. It has

been a wonderful tool for my son. We didn't start it until after troubles

with the implant and I would give anything to reverse time and start cuing to

him

as a baby. There are so many decisions to make! Good Luck!

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Deedee, thanks for the advice. I know ASL, but know nothing about Cued

speech. I could see how that would benefit Whitney. Do you know where I can

get

info on cued speech? Thanks,

DeAnn, Mom to Austin 8, 5, and CHARgE Whitney 6 moths.

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I've heard wonderful things about Cued speech. The problem is, that it is

fairly rare, and with any communication decision you make, you need to have

good resources. You should check into Cued speech, but make sure you've

got some local resources before you add it as a viable communication option.

Also - I've heard a lot of arguments from people against ASL as a first

language because it does not use English syntax. From my knowledge of

language studies, and child development, I don't really buy into that. I

believe the more language you give a child at the earliest age possible,

will expand their total language abilities. There are a lot of experts who

feel the same way (although there are many who don't as well).

Christian Lobaugh

Husband to Ingrid, Father to (5) and (2 yr old charger)

Re: RE: Cochlear implant

Deedee, thanks for the advice. I know ASL, but know nothing about Cued

speech. I could see how that would benefit Whitney. Do you know where I

can get

info on cued speech? Thanks,

DeAnn, Mom to Austin 8, 5, and CHARgE Whitney 6 moths.

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