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Pat - I checked out the link this AM and the offensive

line is not there! Oprah (or her elves) must have gotten an earful

over the weekend! However, if they think that finding Your Spirit is

the answer to a cure for FMS or if Dr Phil just tells us to get up

off our fat a##es and empower ourselves to take the pain away, I

think I'll write a really flaming email!!

> Please click on this link and let the Oprah people know how you

feel about this:

>

> Quoted from

http://www.oprah.oxygen.com/tows/intheworks/plugs_544.html

>

> Is ignoring your mind and spirit taking a toll on your body and

health?

>

> Is living an unfulfilled life taking a toll on your health?

>

> Are you overwhelmed and under appreciated? Do you feel like you've

lost your

> " real self " and spirit? Do you believe that living this way has

caused you

> to have health problems?

>

> Have you ignored your health to the point that you collapsed in

public, on

> the job, caused an accident, etc? Do you push yourself to the edge

of

> exhaustion? Are you ignoring headaches, body aches that don't go

away? How

> is your body telling you your lifestyle is not healthy? Are you

losing your

> hair? Losing sleep? Is it affecting your relationships? Your

ability to do

> your job?

>

> Do you think you have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromialgia AS A

RESULT

> OF NOT NURTURING YOUR MIND OR SPIRIT?

>

> Are you constantly sacrificing your own needs for those of others

to the

> point where it's making you sick? Is your life filled with so much

stress,

> anxiety and frustration that it's leading to health problems?

Please email

> us your story. We ask that only those who are willing to appear

candidly on

> TV respond.

>

>

>

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Oh, yes. My spirit(s) happen to be doing quite well, and they indicate this

isn't THEIR fault. In fact, they tell me they can prove they had nothing to

do with it. I tend to take their word for it.

monique

>

>Reply-To:

>To: " Pat Crofts " , < >

>Subject: Oprah

>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:20:56 -0500

>

>The link was removed quickly due to an overwhelming response from FMSers.

>Either they rethought their position on doing a show indicating our spirits

>were sick and not us, or they decided that there are enough of us out here

>to raise enough cain and we are sick, not just mentally ill. And as for

>Dr. Phil, well he can suck air through a dirty sock if he thinks this is

>AIYH.

>

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Oh, yes. My spirit(s) happen to be doing quite well, and they indicate this

isn't THEIR fault. In fact, they tell me they can prove they had nothing to

do with it. I tend to take their word for it.

monique

>

>Reply-To:

>To: " Pat Crofts " , < >

>Subject: Oprah

>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:20:56 -0500

>

>The link was removed quickly due to an overwhelming response from FMSers.

>Either they rethought their position on doing a show indicating our spirits

>were sick and not us, or they decided that there are enough of us out here

>to raise enough cain and we are sick, not just mentally ill. And as for

>Dr. Phil, well he can suck air through a dirty sock if he thinks this is

>AIYH.

>

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You guys do realize you can still access the link, right? If you go back to

the orginal e-mail with the link on it, you can get to the page it's

supposed to send you too. I was there this morning. (after this e-mail was

sent). take care

-Penny

>

>Reply-To:

>To: " Pat Crofts " , < >

>Subject: Oprah

>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:20:56 -0500

>

>The link was removed quickly due to an overwhelming response from FMSers.

>Either they rethought their position on doing a show indicating our spirits

>were sick and not us, or they decided that there are enough of us out here

>to raise enough cain and we are sick, not just mentally ill. And as for

>Dr. Phil, well he can suck air through a dirty sock if he thinks this is

>AIYH.

>

>Fibronurse AKA Pat

>petfarm@...

>Those who judge don't matter and those who matter don't judge

>

>

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  • 2 years later...

Debbie, What a grest letter. I was a real fan of Oprah till the

other day when I saw her show. She is one to talk. She goes up and

down in her weight all the time. I am so glad you sent her this

letter. You have donr a great job with your weight loss and I admire

you....

-- In Gastric_Bypass_Family , " zoes.mom "

<zoes.mom@c...> wrote:

> Hey guys,

>

> I haven't been online all weekend, but this is the post I sent to

Oprah on

> Thursday last week. I've been so distressed reading all the

postings based

> on Oprah's show yesterday and it just got to be too much. I think

we should

> bombard her with e-mails. I went to her website and sent her the

following

> letter. I

> think anyone who feels strongly about her show yesterday should do

a similar

> letter... Just a suggestion... Here's mine:

>

> Dear Oprah,

>

> Thanks for the show yesterday about incredible weight losses. I

have only

> one problem with it, and it's a major one.

>

> A while back on one of your shows, you featured Carnie and

her story

> of gastric bypass surgery. Never once during that show did

you " slam " her

> for taking the " easy way out " nor did you contrast her with people

by

> saying, " they did it (lost the weight) and they didn't have

surgery! " like

> you did yesterday.

>

> Additionally, you have a link on your site to " read Carnie's

inspirational

> story " on your website, so I'd like to know what gives?

>

> As a super morbidly obese person (all my life, since the age of 3,

and I'm

> 49 now) I can tell you that I've tried absolutely everything, with

the

> exception of the urine of a pregnant woman, to lose the weight. I

topped

> out at 515 lbs. back in the 80s and was successful at losing 279

lbs. on my

> own, but the loss only lasted a short while.

>

> Not all of us are fortunate enough to be able to have personal

trainers or

> chefs to prepare our meals. Not all of us can afford to join gyms

and work

> out on good equipment. Many of us are poor working class folk that

have to

> be productive on our jobs, come home and raise our families and

fall into

> bed at the end of the day. Many of us can't afford the " healthy "

foods

> because we're feeding large families and the carbohydrates are

just so much

> cheaper and stretch farther.

>

> When I had my gastric bypass surgery, it was not an " easy way out "

it was a

> path of last resort. I had major medical problems, including

diabetes,

> hypertension, kidney problems, GERD, reflux, etc. I lost my leg to

> diabetes. I turned septic and almost died. I did not have the

luxury of

> walking and exercising and proper diet. I had to do it now and not

take a

> year or longer to lose the weight. I was back up from 236 lbs. to

420 lbs.

> 18 months ago. 515 was around the corner again.

>

> The surgery is one of the HARDEST things I've ever done. It's a

tool that

> assists in dramatic weightloss... it is not brain surgery.

>

> I have had to retrain myself in how to eat, when to eat, how much

to eat,

> how to exercise, how much to exercise. I have to take part in

support

> groups and be proactive in my recovery from this disease of

obesity. My

> fight is your fight. We just chose different means to the same

end. If

> your way could have worked for me, I would have been thrilled to

pieces.

> After 46 years of trying, I'm sad to say that it didn't but I'm

thrilled

> that the surgeons have given me a method to save my life. I will

have to

> work at this for the rest of my life, but at least I have a chance

at life

> now where none existed before.

>

> I would love to see a show which gave weight loss surgery as a

viable means

> of weight loss for those of us whose options were at an end prior

to this

> miraculous surgery.

>

> If you think this radical way of life that I have chosen to live

is easy,

> sorry to tell you, but it's not. It is truly the hardest thing

I've ever

> done, but, for me, the smartest thing I've ever done.

>

> Last year I was in a wheelchair (24 " oversized chair that couldn't

get

> through the doorways in my home) and I couldn't lift myself up

without

> assistance.

>

> Thanks to the surgery, my diabetes, hypertension, reflux, GERD,

etc. are all

> in remission.

>

> I am able (with my prosthetic) to walk, get up and down from the

floor

> without assistance, I learned to walk again and have gone from

wheelchair to

> walker, to 4 prong cane, to single cane to no cane, all in the

space of 1

> year. I have lost 151 lbs. as of my last weigh-in. I am below my

all-time

> low adult weight of 236 which I haven't weighed since 1984.

>

> I no longer have to count on others to help me with the care of my

daughter.

> I'm able to do everything and go everywhere with her, without

assistance.

>

> I credit everything in my life to this life-saving surgery.

Believe me, I

> tried it your way. I was in Overeaters Anonymous for over 20 years

and I

> followed the program religiously. Though that was one of the best

things I

> ever did in terms of weightloss, even that, ultimately, did not

continue to

> keep the weight off of me. This surgery is the only thing that has

ever

> worked for me and I know that I will have to work very hard, for

the rest of

> my life, to make proper food choices and exercise adequately, but

with the

> assistance of this tool that is my smaller surgical stomach, I

will succeed.

>

> I hope that you will show some fairness to the people in this

country who

> need this surgery, even if it is not in your belief system. We all

need

> different things to help us on the path we need to take. You are a

very

> public figure and your opinion matters to a lot of people.

>

> As of the most recent statistics, only .05% of people who go for

this

> surgery die from it. It's getting a pretty bad rap considering how

helpful

> and life saving it is for most of us.

>

> It is my hope that you will, at the very least, have a show which

includes

> gastric bypass surgery as a viable option for people who are at

the absolute

> end of their ropes.

>

> Continued good luck to you in your fight to maintain your size 8.

I know I

> would never be able to do it your way, but I'd defend your right

to do it...

>

> Best regards,

>

> Debbie D'Angelo

> 386 lbs. 9/3/02

> 235 lbs. 8/1/03 and still losing...

> zoes.mom@c...

>

> live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been

hurt...

>

> Deb in Hazlet, NJ

> " Debbie Dancer "

> distal rny

> September 3, 2002

> 386/235/165

> BMI 60/34.7/24

> -151

> -92.5 "

>

> Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

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Debbie,

Your letter gave me goodbumps. I applaud your struggle and success.

The bottom line is that WE know that this was not the easy way out.

It would be nice if someone with her clout could let the rest of the

world in on our secret. You did a magnificient job.

> Hey guys,

>

> I haven't been online all weekend, but this is the post I sent to

Oprah on

> Thursday last week. I've been so distressed reading all the

postings based

> on Oprah's show yesterday and it just got to be too much. I think

we should

> bombard her with e-mails. I went to her website and sent her the

following

> letter. I

> think anyone who feels strongly about her show yesterday should do

a similar

> letter... Just a suggestion... Here's mine:

>

> Dear Oprah,

>

> Thanks for the show yesterday about incredible weight losses. I

have only

> one problem with it, and it's a major one.

>

> A while back on one of your shows, you featured Carnie and

her story

> of gastric bypass surgery. Never once during that show did

you " slam " her

> for taking the " easy way out " nor did you contrast her with people

by

> saying, " they did it (lost the weight) and they didn't have

surgery! " like

> you did yesterday.

>

> Additionally, you have a link on your site to " read Carnie's

inspirational

> story " on your website, so I'd like to know what gives?

>

> As a super morbidly obese person (all my life, since the age of 3,

and I'm

> 49 now) I can tell you that I've tried absolutely everything, with

the

> exception of the urine of a pregnant woman, to lose the weight. I

topped

> out at 515 lbs. back in the 80s and was successful at losing 279

lbs. on my

> own, but the loss only lasted a short while.

>

> Not all of us are fortunate enough to be able to have personal

trainers or

> chefs to prepare our meals. Not all of us can afford to join gyms

and work

> out on good equipment. Many of us are poor working class folk that

have to

> be productive on our jobs, come home and raise our families and

fall into

> bed at the end of the day. Many of us can't afford the " healthy "

foods

> because we're feeding large families and the carbohydrates are

just so much

> cheaper and stretch farther.

>

> When I had my gastric bypass surgery, it was not an " easy way out "

it was a

> path of last resort. I had major medical problems, including

diabetes,

> hypertension, kidney problems, GERD, reflux, etc. I lost my leg to

> diabetes. I turned septic and almost died. I did not have the

luxury of

> walking and exercising and proper diet. I had to do it now and not

take a

> year or longer to lose the weight. I was back up from 236 lbs. to

420 lbs.

> 18 months ago. 515 was around the corner again.

>

> The surgery is one of the HARDEST things I've ever done. It's a

tool that

> assists in dramatic weightloss... it is not brain surgery.

>

> I have had to retrain myself in how to eat, when to eat, how much

to eat,

> how to exercise, how much to exercise. I have to take part in

support

> groups and be proactive in my recovery from this disease of

obesity. My

> fight is your fight. We just chose different means to the same

end. If

> your way could have worked for me, I would have been thrilled to

pieces.

> After 46 years of trying, I'm sad to say that it didn't but I'm

thrilled

> that the surgeons have given me a method to save my life. I will

have to

> work at this for the rest of my life, but at least I have a chance

at life

> now where none existed before.

>

> I would love to see a show which gave weight loss surgery as a

viable means

> of weight loss for those of us whose options were at an end prior

to this

> miraculous surgery.

>

> If you think this radical way of life that I have chosen to live

is easy,

> sorry to tell you, but it's not. It is truly the hardest thing

I've ever

> done, but, for me, the smartest thing I've ever done.

>

> Last year I was in a wheelchair (24 " oversized chair that couldn't

get

> through the doorways in my home) and I couldn't lift myself up

without

> assistance.

>

> Thanks to the surgery, my diabetes, hypertension, reflux, GERD,

etc. are all

> in remission.

>

> I am able (with my prosthetic) to walk, get up and down from the

floor

> without assistance, I learned to walk again and have gone from

wheelchair to

> walker, to 4 prong cane, to single cane to no cane, all in the

space of 1

> year. I have lost 151 lbs. as of my last weigh-in. I am below my

all-time

> low adult weight of 236 which I haven't weighed since 1984.

>

> I no longer have to count on others to help me with the care of my

daughter.

> I'm able to do everything and go everywhere with her, without

assistance.

>

> I credit everything in my life to this life-saving surgery.

Believe me, I

> tried it your way. I was in Overeaters Anonymous for over 20 years

and I

> followed the program religiously. Though that was one of the best

things I

> ever did in terms of weightloss, even that, ultimately, did not

continue to

> keep the weight off of me. This surgery is the only thing that has

ever

> worked for me and I know that I will have to work very hard, for

the rest of

> my life, to make proper food choices and exercise adequately, but

with the

> assistance of this tool that is my smaller surgical stomach, I

will succeed.

>

> I hope that you will show some fairness to the people in this

country who

> need this surgery, even if it is not in your belief system. We all

need

> different things to help us on the path we need to take. You are a

very

> public figure and your opinion matters to a lot of people.

>

> As of the most recent statistics, only .05% of people who go for

this

> surgery die from it. It's getting a pretty bad rap considering how

helpful

> and life saving it is for most of us.

>

> It is my hope that you will, at the very least, have a show which

includes

> gastric bypass surgery as a viable option for people who are at

the absolute

> end of their ropes.

>

> Continued good luck to you in your fight to maintain your size 8.

I know I

> would never be able to do it your way, but I'd defend your right

to do it...

>

> Best regards,

>

> Debbie D'Angelo

> 386 lbs. 9/3/02

> 235 lbs. 8/1/03 and still losing...

> zoes.mom@c...

>

> live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been

hurt...

>

> Deb in Hazlet, NJ

> " Debbie Dancer "

> distal rny

> September 3, 2002

> 386/235/165

> BMI 60/34.7/24

> -151

> -92.5 "

>

> Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

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Debbie,

If Oprah responds, please forward it to us. I'd love to hear what she has to

say.

Debbie R.

WI

8/7/03 open RNY

286/259/150

Oprah

Hey guys,

I haven't been online all weekend, but this is the post I sent to Oprah on

Thursday last week. I've been so distressed reading all the postings based

on Oprah's show yesterday and it just got to be too much. I think we should

bombard her with e-mails. I went to her website and sent her the following

letter. I

think anyone who feels strongly about her show yesterday should do a similar

letter... Just a suggestion... Here's mine:

Dear Oprah,

Thanks for the show yesterday about incredible weight losses. I have only

one problem with it, and it's a major one.

A while back on one of your shows, you featured Carnie and her story

of gastric bypass surgery. Never once during that show did you " slam " her

for taking the " easy way out " nor did you contrast her with people by

saying, " they did it (lost the weight) and they didn't have surgery! " like

you did yesterday.

Additionally, you have a link on your site to " read Carnie's inspirational

story " on your website, so I'd like to know what gives?

As a super morbidly obese person (all my life, since the age of 3, and I'm

49 now) I can tell you that I've tried absolutely everything, with the

exception of the urine of a pregnant woman, to lose the weight. I topped

out at 515 lbs. back in the 80s and was successful at losing 279 lbs. on my

own, but the loss only lasted a short while.

Not all of us are fortunate enough to be able to have personal trainers or

chefs to prepare our meals. Not all of us can afford to join gyms and work

out on good equipment. Many of us are poor working class folk that have to

be productive on our jobs, come home and raise our families and fall into

bed at the end of the day. Many of us can't afford the " healthy " foods

because we're feeding large families and the carbohydrates are just so much

cheaper and stretch farther.

When I had my gastric bypass surgery, it was not an " easy way out " it was a

path of last resort. I had major medical problems, including diabetes,

hypertension, kidney problems, GERD, reflux, etc. I lost my leg to

diabetes. I turned septic and almost died. I did not have the luxury of

walking and exercising and proper diet. I had to do it now and not take a

year or longer to lose the weight. I was back up from 236 lbs. to 420 lbs.

18 months ago. 515 was around the corner again.

The surgery is one of the HARDEST things I've ever done. It's a tool that

assists in dramatic weightloss... it is not brain surgery.

I have had to retrain myself in how to eat, when to eat, how much to eat,

how to exercise, how much to exercise. I have to take part in support

groups and be proactive in my recovery from this disease of obesity. My

fight is your fight. We just chose different means to the same end. If

your way could have worked for me, I would have been thrilled to pieces.

After 46 years of trying, I'm sad to say that it didn't but I'm thrilled

that the surgeons have given me a method to save my life. I will have to

work at this for the rest of my life, but at least I have a chance at life

now where none existed before.

I would love to see a show which gave weight loss surgery as a viable means

of weight loss for those of us whose options were at an end prior to this

miraculous surgery.

If you think this radical way of life that I have chosen to live is easy,

sorry to tell you, but it's not. It is truly the hardest thing I've ever

done, but, for me, the smartest thing I've ever done.

Last year I was in a wheelchair (24 " oversized chair that couldn't get

through the doorways in my home) and I couldn't lift myself up without

assistance.

Thanks to the surgery, my diabetes, hypertension, reflux, GERD, etc. are all

in remission.

I am able (with my prosthetic) to walk, get up and down from the floor

without assistance, I learned to walk again and have gone from wheelchair to

walker, to 4 prong cane, to single cane to no cane, all in the space of 1

year. I have lost 151 lbs. as of my last weigh-in. I am below my all-time

low adult weight of 236 which I haven't weighed since 1984.

I no longer have to count on others to help me with the care of my daughter.

I'm able to do everything and go everywhere with her, without assistance.

I credit everything in my life to this life-saving surgery. Believe me, I

tried it your way. I was in Overeaters Anonymous for over 20 years and I

followed the program religiously. Though that was one of the best things I

ever did in terms of weightloss, even that, ultimately, did not continue to

keep the weight off of me. This surgery is the only thing that has ever

worked for me and I know that I will have to work very hard, for the rest of

my life, to make proper food choices and exercise adequately, but with the

assistance of this tool that is my smaller surgical stomach, I will succeed.

I hope that you will show some fairness to the people in this country who

need this surgery, even if it is not in your belief system. We all need

different things to help us on the path we need to take. You are a very

public figure and your opinion matters to a lot of people.

As of the most recent statistics, only .05% of people who go for this

surgery die from it. It's getting a pretty bad rap considering how helpful

and life saving it is for most of us.

It is my hope that you will, at the very least, have a show which includes

gastric bypass surgery as a viable option for people who are at the absolute

end of their ropes.

Continued good luck to you in your fight to maintain your size 8. I know I

would never be able to do it your way, but I'd defend your right to do it...

Best regards,

Debbie D'Angelo

386 lbs. 9/3/02

235 lbs. 8/1/03 and still losing...

zoes.mom@...

live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...

Deb in Hazlet, NJ

" Debbie Dancer "

distal rny

September 3, 2002

386/235/165

BMI 60/34.7/24

-151

-92.5 "

Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

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WOW! What a fantastic letter. Get ready for a call from Oprah...When

she decides to do a show on this topic, I think you will be her

first guest!

Congratulations on your awesome journey!

pre-op

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