Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Well...... I didn't want to say anything but here goes..... Since I started Atkins in June 2000.....my hair has thinned out big time. I know this can happen anytime you lose alot of weight but it has indeed happened. As far as my gallbladder goes, I had an attack this morning. I never had problems until Atkins but I wasn't eating this much fat either--which causes the attacks. Not blaming Atkins, just what has happened to me.....people who have had the appendix removed have a higher incidence of gallbladder problems....I had mine removed about 12 years ago or so.....so here again, this may or may not be due to Atkins. As far as my kidneys go, they are fine and still intact....I don't expect any problems LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Well...... I didn't want to say anything but here goes..... Since I started Atkins in June 2000.....my hair has thinned out big time. I know this can happen anytime you lose alot of weight but it has indeed happened. As far as my gallbladder goes, I had an attack this morning. I never had problems until Atkins but I wasn't eating this much fat either--which causes the attacks. Not blaming Atkins, just what has happened to me.....people who have had the appendix removed have a higher incidence of gallbladder problems....I had mine removed about 12 years ago or so.....so here again, this may or may not be due to Atkins. As far as my kidneys go, they are fine and still intact....I don't expect any problems LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I have been on Atkins for 1 year (next month)... I just got my blood work back. My Dr did a complete work up.... I don't know which test is which for the most part, but I do know that when I went in for the results.... EVERY test was in the absolute normal range. I had cholesterol, liver, kidney, gallbladder, glucose & more.... (42 in all) I also had an EKG which was perfect, my BP was 122/74 today, and I have lost over 50 pounds. (I wish it had been 100....) If anybody is interested in a particular test let me know the name of it. I got to keep a copy of the report and when I think about what these type people say I just show them the blood work! --- wytchwomyn@... wrote: > Hello all! > > I have been Low Carbing for a while, and am doing well on it. > However, on another list that I subscribe to, someone was cautioning > against the Atkins diet. She said that she has 5 coworkers who are > on this diet, and they have all lost their gallbladders, are losing > their hair, and one has renal failure. > > I don't necessarily believe this, if these people are truly > experiencing these conditions, there must be some underlying > problem. What do you guys think? > > Patti > > ===== Kathy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I am 2+ years LC. Hair loss has been noticed among lowcarbers. Some of what appears to be hair loss may actually be rapid growth (lots of hair in the comb as dead hairs are replaced). If you have loss/thinning, it could be vitamin deficiency; recommend biotin. My hair is longer and faster growing than ever (and I am getting tired of having to color my white roots long before the rest of my hair needs it). Gallbladder and renal failure would have to be combination of special causes, not simple effects of LC. http://womenshealth.about.com/health/womenshealth/cs/gallbladder/ http://www.adam.com/ency/article/000501.htm Adequate water (64 oz minimum) is ESSENTIAL to kidney health (and everything else in there). You can be tested for kidney function and gall bladder, and you should discuss concerns with your doctor. Without understanding their total medical history and exactly 'how' they were lowcarbing, it is all speculation on cause and effect. HJ ----- Original Message ----- She said that she has 5 coworkers who are > on this diet, and they have all lost their gallbladders, are losing > their hair, and one has renal failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 For one my hair has been thinning horribly. I have been using a very expensive hair vitamin. I went to an endocronologist and he did a workup..there is no " chemical " reason, he said maybe stress and maybe diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 My hair is luscious, and healthy, albeit a touch gray...But Clairol takes care of that! --- wrote: > For one my hair has been thinning horribly. I have been using a very > expensive hair vitamin. I went to an endocronologist and he did a > workup..there is no " chemical " reason, he said maybe stress and maybe diet. > > ===== Kathy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Okay, here is my 2 cents of the subject...... (let me just climb up on my soap box) I used to weigh 325 pounds. My blood pressure ran around 100/150. I took BP meds. I had these little attacks during the night where my heart would begin racing for no reason. I could not walk up stairs or anywhere as a matter of fact without being COMPLETELY out of breath. Since losing my weight (and Atkins has played a major role), I weigh 188 pounds. My blood pressure is 120/70 and no more meds for that. My cholesterol is 112. Those heart racing attacks are completely gone. I can go up and down and up and down stairs or walk, run, jump without gasping for breath. I am living life and I am happy and proud of myself for what I have accomplished. Let me also add, I started my weight loss the hard way, doing low fat. I lost more hair doing that that I have on Atkins. To be truthful, my hair has become thicker and healthier since Atkins. Now, yall tell me, what is healthy?? Before at 325 and health problems OR 188 and living life and loving it? I really get sort of miffed at people who put Atkins down. I especially get miffed at people who, DO NOT have a weight problem, put Atkins down. They just don't understand nor do they know the facts. Whew!! do I feel better now (I am climbing down off my soap box) Sorry for ranting. I think I had more like $1 than 2 cents to say Kim (Terry's sis) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 My nephew age 4 is diabetic and he can't have carbs. If this was true about the hair lose would most diabetics have this problem? Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Not exactly, because the American Diabetic Assoc, still reccomends a low fat diet. --- Carol wrote: > > > My nephew age 4 is diabetic and he can't have carbs. If this was true > about the hair lose would most diabetics have this problem? > > Carol > > > ===== Kathy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I think that if all that is happening in one work place they better check the water!!!!! sorry, but that seems a bit too hard to fathom... I have heard so litle bad about the program that to find that much concentrated in one area seems unbelieveable, perhaps it is THEIR take on Atkins that they are doing that is flawed??? who knows....sorry I cant be more scientific in my approach on this answer but it is just one of those wha wha what??? things.. ya know? Low Carb Diet Side Effects?Hello all!I have been Low Carbing for a while, and am doing well on it. However, on another list that I subscribe to, someone was cautioning against the Atkins diet. She said that she has 5 coworkers who are on this diet, and they have all lost their gallbladders, are losing their hair, and one has renal failure. I don't necessarily believe this, if these people are truly experiencing these conditions, there must be some underlying problem. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Wouldn't low fat make your hair more apt to fall out. Carol What percentage of fat are we suppose to be on for the induction. Also, I have looked all through the book and can't find anything on the ketosis strips. Does it matter what time of day you do them. Is it best in the morning? Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 My 2 cents or whatever you think it's worth :-) My husband is a kidney transplant recipient, and the doctors had no problem with him being on the diet as long as his kidney function was okay. He got blood work done regularly and the diet showed no change in kidney function. Now I must add that just as with everything else people can be stupid with diets. Maybe these people were doing what they thought was Atkins and something happened (i.e. no carbs or water). I had a nurse taking my blood Friday telling me she has seen wonderful results from a diet that is called Atkins, but she couldn't bring herself to try a diet that says fruit and vege's are bad for you... ARRRRRRRRRRRGH!! Cheri 230/215/175 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Gee , how are you feeling after your attack this morning? that can be very painful.. I do hope that you are alright! ----- Original Message ----- From: july31978@... . As far as my gallbladder goes, I had an attack this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Thanks for asking. It was pretty painful and I had GI problems (if you get my drift) the rest of the afternoon.....I'm feeling better this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Laverne I had soup that had some fatty meat in it. But no, no pork. It also made me sick the night before (diarrhea)....but I wasn't for certain that it was the soup. I found out the next morning when I had some more and I had that gallbladder attack. Not to be graphic but they tell you to check your waste when you have one and it definitely had the 'signs'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Wytch: I'm sure if they are, it's not because of the Atkins diet. They may be experiencing some hairloss, which is normal on any diet. I'm losing some hair, but nothing to worry about, also, if I pull my hair back into a barrette it looks funny because all of the new growth sticks right up! As for the gallbladders, I'd be willing to bet anything that they had gallbladder conditions already and changing their eating plans probably did make it more prominent (They may not of known they had these conditions). Definitely not caused by the Atkins plan. The person with the renal failure, probably also diabetic. Finally, I'd be willing to bet that not a single one of those women has actually read the book and done any research and were eating bacon and eggs and cream and not eating vegetables and not following the complete plan. A lot of people do their own made up plan and call it Atkins. " I drank diet soda and ate nothing but eggs and pork rinds for days and days and I didn't lose a thing! That Atkins plan is a bunch of hooey! " A. > From: wytchwomyn@... > To: Atkins_Support_List > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:08 PM > Subject: Low Carb Diet Side Effects? > > > Hello all! > > I have been Low Carbing for a while, and am doing well on it. > However, on another list that I subscribe to, someone was cautioning > against the Atkins diet. She said that she has 5 coworkers who are > on this diet, and they have all lost their gallbladders, are losing > their hair, and one has renal failure. > > I don't necessarily believe this, if these people are truly > experiencing these conditions, there must be some underlying > problem. What do you guys think? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 , Did you have pork at all yesterday? Sometimes when I eat pork I get sick from it. I think it too rich for my tummy sometimes. What did you eat? Laverne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 What is the evidence of this? What exactly was each person eating each day and for how long? What supplements were they taking? What were, if any, their health problems before taking this diet? Were these people on any medications while on diet? What was their blood work before and after? What age are these people? Did they eat enough carbs to balance the diet? Were they exercising? Hearsay! Hearsay! Read all about it. Grandma Hut __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 If these kind of scare tactics were true and scientific, Dr Atkins would be out of business or barred from the medical profession. Show me the proof. Grandma Hut __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 > --- <heraliaschris@h...> wrote: > > For one my hair has been thinning horribly. I have been using a very > > expensive hair vitamin. I went to an endocronologist and he did a > > workup..there is no " chemical " reason, he said maybe stress and maybe diet. Did you get your thyroid checked? Someone said it could be because of a thyroid problem. I also heard that taking biotin helps. Bobbi Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I bet! I had my gallbladder and liver shut down when I got Erythromyacin Jaundice, and it was sooooooooooo painful... I would not wish that on anyone!! I hope you are feeling better today! Please take care!!!! Re: Low Carb Diet Side Effects? Thanks for asking. It was pretty painful and I had GI problems (if you get my drift) the rest of the afternoon.....I'm feeling better this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 The problem actually comes from the years of limiting your fat intake. I'm only 22 (haven't had years to do much except get fatter and fatter) and I've never been on a low fat diet, so I guess I'm the exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I recall that at one time when we went round on the gall bladder issue, it was shown that it isn't the increase in fat that causes the gall bladder problems. The problem actually comes from the years of limiting your fat intake. When the gall bladder didn't have enough to do it sat around developing stones, now that you've put it to work again those stones are a problem. As for hair loss, I could use some help myself. I had been intending to ask Terry about that. Terry, I know you mentioned before the dosage of biotin that seems to help. It was rogaine and biotin...was there anything else to take to help with hair loss? Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I recall that at one time when we went round on the gall bladder issue, it was shown that it isn't the increase in fat that causes the gall bladder problems. The problem actually comes from the years of limiting your fat intake. When the gall bladder didn't have enough to do it sat around developing stones, now that you've put it to work again those stones are a problem. As for hair loss, I could use some help myself. I had been intending to ask Terry about that. Terry, I know you mentioned before the dosage of biotin that seems to help. It was rogaine and biotin...was there anything else to take to help with hair loss? Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 Thank you Terry. I'll have to give it a try. >>At one time I was using Rogaine (it definitely helped), and taking both MSM >>(which is sulphur) and Biotin. Beth in Georgia advocated using 3000 mg of >>MSM and 3000 mcg of biotin a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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