Re: Update on my husband's doctor's visit

[Guest guest]

: Your doctor has given your husband a combination insulin.

This very rarely works well to control, unless your husband's BG

excursions exactly match the insulin. He is unlikely to gain good BG

control with this insulin. I strongly suggest you ask for Lantus or

Ultralente insulin for basal and Humalog or NovoLog for matching to

carbs for meals. This is something that cannot be done with a

combination insulin.

Actually, a prescription isn't needed for Ultralente insulin and it's

about half the price of Lantus. I've been using it successfully as basal

for more than five years now. Taken twice a day, 12 hours apart, one can

get excellent basal control. But don't be surprised if the doctor

doesn't want him to take it - it's not the current insulin of choice

these days. The drug companies make more $$ on Lantus.

Vicki

Update on my husband's doctor's visit

> Well we went to see our doctor with info in hand and he finally

> conceeded on giving him a mid range insulin. He gave him novalin

> 70/30 and if that works he will switch to humalog 72/25. If that

> doesn't work then we will go with stright short acting insulin four

> times a day. Thanks to all of you wonderful ppl for helping us help

> our doctor understand.

>

> Hugs

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vicky,

He has been on Lantus for almost two years. He wanted to try this

before going to the four shots a day routine.

> : Your doctor has given your husband a combination insulin.

> This very rarely works well to control, unless your husband's BG

> excursions exactly match the insulin. He is unlikely to gain good

BG

> control with this insulin. I strongly suggest you ask for Lantus or

> Ultralente insulin for basal and Humalog or NovoLog for matching to

> carbs for meals. This is something that cannot be done with a

> combination insulin.

>

> Actually, a prescription isn't needed for Ultralente insulin and

it's

> about half the price of Lantus. I've been using it successfully as

basal

> for more than five years now. Taken twice a day, 12 hours apart,

one can

> get excellent basal control. But don't be surprised if the doctor

> doesn't want him to take it - it's not the current insulin of choice

> these days. The drug companies make more $$ on Lantus.

> Vicki

>

>

>

> Update on my husband's doctor's visit

>

>

> > Well we went to see our doctor with info in hand and he finally

> > conceeded on giving him a mid range insulin. He gave him novalin

> > 70/30 and if that works he will switch to humalog 72/25. If that

> > doesn't work then we will go with stright short acting insulin

four

> > times a day. Thanks to all of you wonderful ppl for helping us

help

> > our doctor understand.

> >

> > Hugs

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well..I guess it's worth a try. But I'd be very surprised if it worked

well. I've never actually heard of it working well for anyone. But docs

keep prescribing it anyway.

Please let us know if it works for him.

Sorry, I forgot your husband was already on Lantus, .

Vicki

Update on my husband's doctor's visit

> >

> >

> > > Well we went to see our doctor with info in hand and he finally

> > > conceeded on giving him a mid range insulin. He gave him novalin

> > > 70/30 and if that works he will switch to humalog 72/25. If that

> > > doesn't work then we will go with stright short acting insulin

> four

> > > times a day. Thanks to all of you wonderful ppl for helping us

> help

> > > our doctor understand.

> > >

> > > Hugs

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

whimsy2 wrote:

>Well..I guess it's worth a try. But I'd be very surprised if it worked

>well. I've never actually heard of it working well for anyone. But docs

>keep prescribing it anyway.

>

>Please let us know if it works for him.

>

>Sorry, I forgot your husband was already on Lantus, .

>Vicki

>

>

My take on it is that her husband never developed the proper basal using

Lantus. And, the fact that there was no fast acting such as Humalog

tends to show that the doctor doesn't know much if anything about

insulin dosing.

Oh, ok, the move to mixed insulin (aka 70/30 or 75/25) confirms the above.

Lantus or UL as a basal, and Humalog or Novolog are legions above that

combination insulin.

You just have to put the effort into getting the basal right.

--

Dave - 10:42:47 AM

T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H

A 4th generation Diabetic

-

Davors Daily Aphorism:

The irony of life is that no one gets out alive...

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[Guest guest]

I agree.

Vicki

Re: Re: Update on my husband's doctor's visit

> whimsy2 wrote:

>

> >Well..I guess it's worth a try. But I'd be very surprised if it

worked

> >well. I've never actually heard of it working well for anyone. But

docs

> >keep prescribing it anyway.

> >

> >Please let us know if it works for him.

> >

> >Sorry, I forgot your husband was already on Lantus, .

> >Vicki

> >

> >

>

> My take on it is that her husband never developed the proper basal

using

> Lantus. And, the fact that there was no fast acting such as Humalog

> tends to show that the doctor doesn't know much if anything about

> insulin dosing.

>

> Oh, ok, the move to mixed insulin (aka 70/30 or 75/25) confirms the

above.

>

> Lantus or UL as a basal, and Humalog or Novolog are legions above that

> combination insulin.

>

> You just have to put the effort into getting the basal right.

>

> --

> Dave - 10:42:47 AM

> T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H

> A 4th generation Diabetic

> -

> Davors Daily Aphorism:

> The irony of life is that no one gets out alive...