Re: Medical Care-Free Enterprise can be costly

December 19, 2007

There is no doubt that you remove layers and you could remove costs.

So, in theory, let the government administer all health insurance and

do away with the for-profit insurance companies and turn all

hospitals over to be run like VA hospitals are now. Would it be

better? Heavens, if I know, but its not going to happen so we must

look for solutions in between. You think we would possibly implement

a plan putting all those companies out of a part of their business?

Let's talk about free enterprise and politics and protecting an

industry at its worse. I grew up in NC, a wonderful state except for

one thing. We're the leaders in cigarettes and killing people through

them. If any other product was proven to have the side effects of

cigarettes, do you think we'd allow it to be sold? Why do we put

warnings on the packs saying these will kill you, instead of just

outlawing them all? We find saccharine isn't good for mice and its

off the shelves until we realize humans couldn't possibly consume the

equivalent dosage. But the point is that if it falls under the realm

of the FDA it has to meet certain safety standards. If not, anything

goes.

We need another branch of government....the branch of common sense.

lol.

> > >

> > > Sher....the clot was identified in ER....I've even have the

> > emergency report were the dr wrote if " pain persists come back to

> ER

> > for a repeat of the ultrasound " . They asked me if I had crutches

at

> > home, which I said " YES " ?and also pain meds were prescribed.

> > >

> > > I've never told my primary dr's that I'm susceptible to blood

> clots

> > even though I know for about a year and a half. They just learned

> it

> > over the weekend. I know exactly what needs to be done and I did

it

> > yesterday....and I informed all my dr's. All necessary

precautions

> > will be taken care of.

> > >

> > > The dr's I have so far they've been great! If a dr though

> requests

> > that I need to see him/her because it's important for follow-ups

we

> > will schedule an appointment. With all my dr's appointments I

have

> > the flexibility to reschedule as long as it doesn't interfere

with

> my

> > condition....

> > >

> > > Most of my dr's know, I will not book any appointments unless

it

> > necessary for me to see them. Which in most cases, I wait until

the

> > pain has gotten very bad etc...

> > >

> > > Irene Raynaud's Disease 09/07 PF 03/07 Canada

> > >

> > > ---- Original Message ----

> > > From: Sher Bauman <bofus@>

> > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > Sent: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:02 pm

> > > Subject: Re: Sher!

> > >

> > > Irene...????this is me screaming out here in Oregon.

> > >

> > > ? I don't know what to say. I've never heard of a person being

> told

> > to come back if pain persists...under your circumstances.

> > >

> > > ? I guess I have to stay calm here and suppose Drs. have

checked

> > you out and find nothing " alarming " .? However, If a clot has been

> > identified and there is persistent pain at the site of the

> > >

> > > ?clot?I would call dr and inform that?you want to be seen.

> > >

> > > ?? Now Irene, this is only ME. My outgoing and assertive

> > personality may not fit you and we have to be careful on any

forum

> > that we do not give ? " medical " advice. We all can take care of

> > ourselves though and sometimes it means extreme actions. Is this

> one

> > of those times for you?

> > >

> > > ?? YOU know what you need to do. YOU do know. Then do that.

> > >

> > > ?? You have to be over the top with frustration and there also

> has

> > to be a reason your dr isn't taking this very seriously...I would

> > inquire, no insist, on knowing why your pain is not being taken

> > seriously.

> > >

> > > ?? Now here is a tacky question...please don't be offended!?

Are

> > you a " complainer " and your dr tends not to listen when nothing

> > serious is found? (you have enough 'serious').

> > >

> > > ?? I'm just grasping at straws here, thinking of any reason

your

> > needs are not being met.

> > >

> > > ?? When the clot (pain) was identified...did you follow dr

orders

> > to the letter? Like maybe taking it easy...off your leg? Whatever?

> > >

> > > ??? Guess all that's left is to keep on praying for your relief.

> > >

> > > Hugs to you today!

> > >

> > > ?

> > >

> > > Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.

> > > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

> > >

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December 19, 2007

Bruce, In regard to medical costs being a

prime reason for personal bankruptcy..it is also

the largest overhead cost for many small businesses as well. My husband

owns a mechanical

contracting firm and the single most expensive cost for the company is

medical insurance.

When we first went into business 24 years ago, he was able to include

Blue Cross / Blue Shield ( HMO like)

Keystone coverage with no -payroll deductions for all the employees.

Now, everyone has upfront out of paycheck costs

in addition to the co-pays. It wasn't possible to continue to give

that benefit to all 50 people without going broke ourselves.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z

fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mild”

PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to

Darah

“I’m gonna

be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Bruce Moreland wrote:

There is no doubt that you remove layers and you could remove

costs.