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> Hello to you all,

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> here I am again with a new question.

> For about 3-4 weeks now I see everything a little misty. I hope you

understand me.

> I thought that I had been too busy during December. But now everything is

normal again I still have it.

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> My bloodtest in December was perfect.

> I went to an optician, but my glasses are fine. He only recommended a pair

of glasses for reading.It enlarges a bit, but still a bit misty. Is this

also something due to Graves? Should I see an oculist?

> I phoned my specialist today, but he didn't know any connection with

Graves.............. and advised me to see my family-doctor.

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> Can someone help me?

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> Thanks, very much,and all the best to you all.

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> Ellen de Vries

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I don't know if we have the same eye problems. I know the following

information.

Most common symptoms

Aversion to light

Redness of eyes

Protruding eyes

Swelling of upper eyelids

BLURRED VISION (emphasis added)

Watery eyes

Sore eyes

Gritty sensation in eyes

Aches behind eyes

Dry eyes

Poor night vision

Eye pain when you move around

Flashing lights

Less common symptoms

Double vision

Reduced sight in one (or two, rarely) eyes

Reduced color brightness

Swelling of lower eyelids

Per Dr. Arem, " The Thyroid Solution " by Ridha Arem, M.D.

Elaine

Researching Bohemian Surnames

S L E P I C K A and H R U S K A

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> Is your specialist that did not see a connection with eyes and Graves an

> endocrinologist? YES

> Has he ever taken measurements of your eyes during an

> examination?NO

> Do you have an ophthalmologist (MD specializing in eyes)?NO

eye problems " same as I have?? " <snip>

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> From: shen@...

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> With all the recent posts on eye issues, I'm getting a little worried. My

> eyes have been mildly hurting for 2 mos. now. When I told my doctor, he

> said it was not thyroid related, was probably the Santa Ana winds, and for

> sure I did not have thyroid related eye problems starting. However, my

> eyes hurt wind or no wind, and I can't see as well as I used to. No

> swelling though. Can someone please advise?

This is exactly how my eye problems started: I was hyperthyroid (but didn't

know it) for a couple of months and my eyes started to ache, sort of like a

headache behind my eyes. They hurt for a few months before I saw visible

changes in the eye and changes in sight. My eyes progressed to a point where

one was bulged and swollen, the other lid so retracted I had to tape my eye shut

at night. Now, my eye problems are gone with the exception of dryness and pain,

sometimes considerable pain.

So, go to an opthalmologist -- but only one that specializes in Graves. I

actually took my health care plan directory and CALLED twenty opthalmologists,

asking if they had experience with Graves and if not, could they recommend

someone locally. Four of them all gave me the same name (also in the book, but

way down in the W's) of a professor at the University of Minnesota, who I did

see. Whatever you must do, find an opthalmologist who specializes in Graves or

other neuro eye troubles. The guy I see is a neuro-opthalmologist.

Try not to worry. For the vast, vast majority of people, dryness and pain and

some moderate troubles like blurriness, lid retraction, etc. are the full extent

of eye troubles; generally, most of the eye troubles tend to wax when your

hormones return to normal. just a handful -- I think it's 5% or something --

the eye troubles become more severe. Anyone who gets to the point of taping

their eye shut, as I did, is a little more on the severe side and even this went

away. I'm extremely grateful for that ! But That probably won't happen to you.

BUt it is important to get a good baseline exam and establish a relationship

with a doc in case something DOES happen -- if there's an emergency (and eye

problems can have emergencies) you want to already have seen a doc and have

someone to call.

Finally, the thyroid related eye disease generally runs a course of 6 months to

five years -- then it stops progressing but doesn't get better. You can get the

thyroid eye disease ANY TIME after a Graves diagnosis -- now, next year, twenty

years. Again: the majority of people experience mild to moderate problems

that tend to greatly improve or disappear altogether within a few months to

years.

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Thanks for the advice, will call Endo for referral today.

At 07:59 AM 01/14/2000 -0600, you wrote:

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Shen

Holy Macro!

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I think the eyes are so much a part of the Graves problem that they must

always be considered. Using a tears replacement helps. Don't use a product

that is designed to *get the red out*. I actually have TED and have

undergone radiation of my eyes followed by a short period of prednisone, to

reduce swelling and correct a tendency to double vision. But the dry eyes

remain and there is a slight difference in lid lag between the two eyes.

Be sure to use an ophthalmologist rather than an optician for following the

status of your eyes.

Elaine

Researching Bohemian Surnames

S L E P I C K A and H R U S K A

eyes

> From: Freedoverc@...

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> Have any of you experienced, burning eyes? By the end of the day, it

feels

> as if someone has taken a ton of sand and thrown it in my eyes....it's

only

> in the evening that I experience this. Anyone else??

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I've also had angle closure glaucoma, which I swear is connected to my sarc. normal eye pressure is 14 15, 16, 20 is high normal. The pressure in my eyes got to 96! This is the point at which the inside of the eyes, the vessels and the optic nerve, actually collapses into itself. If there is ruptures of the vessels in the area of the macula, you loose your central vision, as well as color and contrast sensitivity. If it's in the retina, it can actually warp the retina and make it so that you don't have a nice even surface for the signals to get thru the optic nerve to the brain and so your brain doesn't know what it's seeing. felt like my eyes were going to blow right out of my head. -- I saw so many patients come in with pressures like yours, and they had lost all vision forever in that eye. The nausau and vomiting you spoke about wasn't from the medication they had you drink, it was because your eye pressure were so high that they gave you a super fast diuretic drink to bring all the pressures thru your whole body down. It makes you think you have the flu, and you end up sicker than a dog-- but it saved your vision. I used pred forte etc. The predforte was to bring the inflammation down-- sounds like you had iritis and uveitis also. It's the inflammation in those areas that cause the glaucoma, because when they get inflammed, they can't get the pressure down. I had to have them open them with a lazer. What you had was a laser iridectomy, where they use a laser to burn a small slice of the iris so that any adhesions to the pupil where eliminated. That made it so that the iris could open and close freely, pumping away the intraocular pressure that was so high.

, you are so right, your sarcoidosis and your problems with your eyes is directly connected. Even though you can have glaucoma without sarcoidosis-- almost 30% of all the people with sarcoidosis will have problems with iritis, uveitis, and glaucoma.

I'm going to put together something that will also explain the optic neuritis--inflammation of the optic nerve, that effects many of us with NS. It's a coming Ish--honest it is.

Tracie

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Hi I'm home finally from a continues travel... Home feels sooooo good. I see you are all talking about eyes. The eyes is a huge problem for me. Believe me is is one of the most miserable symptoms as far as uncomfortable horrible feeling. I've also had angle closure glaucoma, which I swear is connected to my sarc. normal eye pressure is 14 15, 16, 20 is high normal. The pressure in my eyes got to 96! felt like my eyes were going to blow right out of my head. I used pred forte etc. I had to have them open them with a lazer. I had to drink some gross syrup mixed with soda. And then I went into shock and threw up for so long ,they had to give me shots to help me quit.

I have to re wet my eyes several times in the day I have plugs in . I wake up in the night and must rewet them my eye lids are stuck to my eye balls. I have a new drug out called sustain for my eyes. I also use a special acid mixed at a specialty pharmacy for my eyes. And I also use another special drop that has some oil in it the eyes need............. It still is a horrible issue to constantly having to deal with.

M.

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Ok, now I have palatal myoclonus, and as part of the myoclonus family

sometimes the eyes can be affected with palatal stuff, but that is usually

diagnosed as " Opsiclonus Myoclonus "

Sooooo.... what is it when you are reading stuff you wre writing (with a

pen) and your eyes keep rolling upwards? (And no this is not common for me.)

I don't think it is seizure relate, but it could be myoclonically related.

Anyone got a clue?

>> I'm going to put together something that will also explain the optic

neuritis--inflammation of the optic nerve, that effects many of us with NS.

It's a coming Ish--honest it is.

LMAO! So is Christmas!

Love isha

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Dylan was seen by an ophthalmologist in the hospital at age 2 weeks, seeing

the colobomas was important in knowing he had CHARGE. As far as doing

anything - that came later. With Dylan¹s eyes, patching and surgery were

never options. It was mostly just wait and see what he can see. He did

wear glasses the first year of life, but not since.

For us I wish we had known more on how to help him understand what he was

seeing, rather than focusing only on providing visual stimulation. We were

so grateful for any sign that he could see something that we had no idea

that his brain wasn¹t always making sense of what he saw. This was

important in his ability to learn sign language etc.

Kim

Mom to Dylan 7 CHaRGE, Kayla 12, Tyler 15, wife to Roy

> Meloni and Jodi, Thank you so much for the eye info. Whitney is 5 weeks old

> and still in the NICU working on feedings. The eye Dr. in the hospital said

> that she wouldn't start eye exams until 3 months old. I would like to know

> much sooner about her vision issues. How old where your CHARGEr kids when

> they

> were seen by an ophthalmologist? :) Thanks, Whitney's MOM

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My son Brock, now 9 mths old spent 3 mths in NICU and was seen by

the opthalmologist before discharge--he was having discharge of his

left eye--well needless to say he had a closed punctum and also

coloboma of both eyes. What upsets us is nobody ever mentioned

CHARGE to us. Was anyone aware of CHARGE while their baby was in the

hospital? Brock's vision so far seems very good, he follows things

well and sees side vision--but of course doesn't like the

sunlight.Also my sister-in-law is pregnant has anyone heard of other

CHARGE's in the family (besides siblings)?

Thanks Melany mom to Brock

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> > Meloni and Jodi, Thank you so much for the eye info. Whitney is

5 weeks old

> > and still in the NICU working on feedings. The eye Dr. in the

hospital said

> > that she wouldn't start eye exams until 3 months old. I would

like to know

> > much sooner about her vision issues. How old where your CHARGEr

kids when

> > they

> > were seen by an ophthalmologist? :) Thanks, Whitney's MOM

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Getting an early diagnosis unfortunately is still very dependent on your

medical team having prior experience with CHARGE. It is not yet common

knowledge. I think those with choanal atresia are picked up faster, and

that is the one major CHARGE feature that Dylan does not have.

Dylan went home at 4 days although he was having trouble swallowing. We

knew about the funny ears, a small eye and the small penis. He was

readmitted at 2 weeks, because we knew he was aspirating and had discovered

a heart defect. The following week he had a major diagnostic workup.

Because of the floppy airway they had called in a pulmonologist; by

coincidence he had just read an article about eating troubles and other

cranial nerve difficulties in CHARGE, and felt Dylan was suspicious of the

syndrome. Because of that they called in the eye doctor who found the

colobomas and did a kidney scan and discovered he was missing a kidney.

Genetics was called in and presto we had a diagnosis of CHARGE at 3 weeks.

Although everyone knew he likely had a syndrome, it was the timing of the

pulmonologist reading the cranial nerve article that led to early diagnosis

for us.

Kim

Mom to Dylan 7 CHaRGE, Kayla 12, Tyler 15

> My son Brock, now 9 mths old spent 3 mths in NICU and was seen by

> the opthalmologist before discharge--he was having discharge of his

> left eye--well needless to say he had a closed punctum and also

> coloboma of both eyes. What upsets us is nobody ever mentioned

> CHARGE to us. Was anyone aware of CHARGE while their baby was in the

> hospital? Brock's vision so far seems very good, he follows things

> well and sees side vision--but of course doesn't like the

> sunlight.Also my sister-in-law is pregnant has anyone heard of other

> CHARGE's in the family (besides siblings)?

> Thanks Melany mom to Brock

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>>> > > Meloni and Jodi, Thank you so much for the eye info. Whitney is

> 5 weeks old

>>> > > and still in the NICU working on feedings. The eye Dr. in the

> hospital said

>>> > > that she wouldn't start eye exams until 3 months old. I would

> like to know

>>> > > much sooner about her vision issues. How old where your CHARGEr

> kids when

>>> > > they

>>> > > were seen by an ophthalmologist? :) Thanks, Whitney's MOM

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I think we were lucky. Our local rural pediatrician gave us 3 possibilities at

birth before Aubrie was sent to Children's Hospital -- Di, Vader, and

CHARGE. Very soon it was evident that the first 2 could be ruled out so she was

" probable CHARGE " from the beginning. Then we saw Meg and changed it to

" CHARGE " .

Michele W

Aubrie's mom (5 yrs)

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My son Brock, now 9 mths old spent 3 mths in NICU and was seen by

the opthalmologist before discharge--he was having discharge of his

left eye--well needless to say he had a closed punctum and also

coloboma of both eyes. What upsets us is nobody ever mentioned

CHARGE to us. Was anyone aware of CHARGE while their baby was in the

hospital? Brock's vision so far seems very good, he follows things

well and sees side vision--but of course doesn't like the

sunlight.Also my sister-in-law is pregnant has anyone heard of other

CHARGE's in the family (besides siblings)?

Thanks Melany mom to Brock

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