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Good one Jim!!! I needed a chuckle.

> ,

> Sounds like you should take up a hobby. Maybe sky diving. Take

> care of

> yourself !!

> LOVE YA

> JIM

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Naaaaaa Jim,

Sky diving sounds too boring. Maybe lion taming? Bomb detonation? I don't

know, I guess I should find something to do in my spare time though

shouldn't I. :-)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Sounds like you should take up a hobby. Maybe sky diving. Take care of

yourself !!

LOVE YA

JIM

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  • 6 months later...

In a message dated 8/23/00 2:57:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jang2@... writes:

<< Andre`, sorry to hear last month was a toughie; I think it was for many of

us. So glad to see your posting & hope that means you are feeling somewhat

better. >>

What was it about this summer that caused many of us so many physical

difficulties? This was one of the worse summers of my life, as far as my

health is concerned.

Thanks for your words of kindness. I promise to not let this get away from

me like it did last month, but it was unavoidable.

It's great to hear from everyone once again.

Andre'

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>Like you, I have been extremely ill and unable to post since last month.

Andre`, sorry to hear last month was a toughie; I think it was for many of us.

So glad to see your posting & hope that means you are feeling somewhat better.

jang

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In a message dated 8/23/00 3:56:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

acastenell@... writes:

<<

It's great to hear from everyone once again.

Andre' >>

Dear Andre, we have a new member in the group and her name is . She

wants to talk with someone who has had Dr. Warshaw. Would you be willing to

talk with her? I tried to tell her about your surgeries but I am afraid I

botched it. Please let me know and I will give her your address. I hope you

have a better day tomorrow. Please Andre, I can tell by your post that you

are a real smart guy who is with it. Please hang in there and something will

come along for you. I am sure of it. You just never know when it will. But

I do believe it will turn out good for you. Your Friend, Shirley

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In a message dated 8/24/00 1:18:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

shirlf3542@... writes:

<<

Dear Andre, we have a new member in the group and her name is . She

wants to talk with someone who has had Dr. Warshaw. Would you be willing to

talk with her? I tried to tell her about your surgeries but I am afraid I

botched it. >>

Shirley,

I already tried to explain my condition via a post earlier today. Thanks for

thinking of me concerning my experiences with DR Warshaw. I'm always willing

to share what I've experienced with others, especially when it concerns

something as critical as the surgeries available to us sufferers.

As for the other stuff, I don't know about being all that " smart. " I've just

been put through the ringer in my lifetime and it galls me to no end when I

still hear people complaining about things I used to have to deal with over

20 years ago! Don't doctors ever learn from their mistakes?

Thanks for all of the kind and thoughtful words and your words of

encouragement. Believe me when I say that they do go a long way in helping

me get over this latest set back. It's nice to feel like I have friends

again. Please excuse me if I don't know how to react properly at times. I

haven't had friends in quite some time :-)

Andre'

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In a message dated 8/24/00 1:55:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

acastenell@... writes:

<< I've just

been put through the ringer in my lifetime and it galls me to no end when I

still hear people complaining about things I used to have to deal with over

20 years ago! Don't doctors ever learn from their mistakes? >>

Dear Andre, I know exactly what you are talking about. My daughter tells me

when she hears petty complaints from people she always thinks to herself, get

a real problem. I know just how you feel about all the suffering over a life

time. I won't even go into my childhood because that is too far back but

believe me it was really bad. As an adult I went from serious IBS to

Hepatitis B which I never got over it is chronic. I have to spend my life in

a wheel chair when I go out of my house. Can stand or walk very long. Very

low stamina. Then ovarian cancer with all that comes with it, chemo. And

now chronic pancreatitis. Pain, can't eat and on tpn which makes me sick.

Many surgeries. Blood infections, etc., etc. So I do know what you are

feeling. I get very angry and am angry right now. I know depression and

sadness. My self esteem is at the bottom. I feel like a non person. I can

go on and on but I think I have said enough. Sorry, I got carried away but I

wanted you to know that I understand completely what you are feeling and I

greve for you and me as well as all the other people who suffer from this

disease. I hate it too!!!!!!! But please Andre don't feel alone and stay

with us because we really care about you. Your Friend, Shirley

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In a message dated 08/24/2000 4:47:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shirlf3542@... writes:

<< My self esteem is at the bottom. I feel like a non person. >>

Shirley,

This really surprised me. You have such a vitality and a generous spirit!!!

Don't you realize how many people you cheer up each day? Even if you can't

run a marathon, you are still important to and loved by many, many people.

Keep these thoughts of love and being treasured tucked away for those black

times.

Love,

Helen

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In a message dated 8/24/00 4:47:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shirlf3542@... writes:

<< So I do know what you are

feeling. I get very angry and am angry right now. I know depression and

sadness. My self esteem is at the bottom. I feel like a non person. I can

go on and on but I think I have said enough. Sorry, I got carried away but

I

wanted you to know that I understand completely what you are feeling and I

greve for you and me as well as all the other people who suffer from this

disease. I hate it too!!!!!!! >>

Shirley,

You've " hit the nail on the head " with this one. You've so aptly captured

how I feel at times, as I'm certain most of us feel from time to time. I'm

just sick and tired of asking myself " Why? " I did nothing to myself to

deserve this and, when I see people abusing their bodies (drinking alcohol,

using drugs,...), it really pisses me off. Don't they realize that it can

all b gone in the " blink of an eye? "

Andre'

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In a message dated 8/24/00 9:35:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Helen4@... writes:

<<

<< My self esteem is at the bottom. I feel like a non person. >>

Shirley,

This really surprised me. You have such a vitality and a generous spirit!!!

Don't you realize how many people you cheer up each day? Even if you can't

run a marathon, you are still important to and loved by many, many people.

Keep these thoughts of love and being treasured tucked away for those black

times.

Love,

Helen

>>

Thanks Helen, I guess I feel this way because pancreasitits and my other

diseases over so many years have robbed me of all self esteem. I don't want

to feel this way but I do. It seems I can't take care of myself anymore. My

husband has to do almost everything for me. But I am going to try to be

strong and try to think positive. You made me feel so good. I didn't

realize how low I felt about myself until you responded and I realized how

much that meant to me. Thanks again kind friend, Shirley

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do i just start posting to be involved in this site???

thanks, christie

yes, christie. HI! do you are a loved one have pancreatitis? how long? know the cause? mine is still undetermined as yet, but i am supposed to have some more tests soon. what part of the country are you from? i'm in arkansas. welcome to the group. you will find many friends and lots of support here.

debbie s. (ark)

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In a message dated 11/07/2000 12:10:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,

djssekis@... writes:

<< HI! do you are a loved one have pancreatitis? how long? know

the cause? >>

hi and yes i posted already about my very good friend. he was diagnosed last

week, has lost 30 pounds already and he is 6 feet 1. weighs only 138 at the

moment, cuz he cant eat a drop of food. they are sending him to a

specialist in bismark on wed. to see about draining his cysts. its a big

one. i am in texas and a good friend. he has hardly no family, just a dad

and 1 brother. so i need to help and support him all i can, he is counting

on me and i am counting on this group to become informed. best of luck to u.

christie in texas

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In a message dated 11/7/00 3:23:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Cmolinet55@... writes:

<<

hi and yes i posted already about my very good friend. he was diagnosed

last

week, has lost 30 pounds already and he is 6 feet 1. weighs only 138 at the

moment, cuz he cant eat a drop of food. they are sending him to a

specialist in bismark on wed. to see about draining his cysts. its a big

one. i am in texas and a good friend. he has hardly no family, just a dad

and 1 brother. so i need to help and support him all i can, he is counting

on me and i am counting on this group to become informed. best of luck to u.

christie in texas

---------------- >>

Hi Christie, I am so sorry about your friend. You asked about diet and fats.

Is he eating clear liquids yet? Jell-O, Gatorade, clear apple juice? It

has to be clear, no sediment what so ever. If he has passed that then maybe

you could try him on some applesauce. Remember no fats. That means butter,

margarine, oils, red meat, mayonnaise etc. If he can eat a little try him on

fish that has been cooked without any fats, oils of any kind. No stick no

fat Pam would be a good source to cook the fish in. Baked potato would be

good with no fat margarine. Just try to think of everything without fat of

any kind. Spices are also a no for me. I really don't know how to advise

you since I don't know if he can even drink water. I know how you feel about

your friend. It is so hard seeing someone you care about loosing so much

weight and being so sick. He is so lucky to have you and you are so kind to

help him. This disease is a terrible disease. It is so painful and

weakening. Ask anything you want to ask of us and we will try to help you

all we can. Shirley

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In a message dated 11/07/2000 1:29:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,

shirlf3542@... writes:

<< I really don't know how to advise

you since I don't know if he can even drink water. >>

thanks so much for all ur info!! he can only have ice chips, not ever water.

i will remember all what u have told me though, cuz he will have the

operation probly in 2 days. thank u shirly and nice to meet u.

Christie

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You know, I've heard that too.........and I don't know where that came from.

I guess it depends on the type of wls that one has. I have NO problem

" throwing up " now, whereas prior to surgery, I never did. I can tell u,

that from lurking on the Graduate list for years now, I've never heard that

people have problems throwing up. In fact, with RNY or any restrictive type

procedure, it's easier I would think.

Dee P.G.

Hi

> I have some questions that I hope you all can answer for me please,

> you women are so knowledgable!

>

> I am 8 weeks pregnant today and I have had no m/s, not that I mind.

> :-), but I hear alot of women who have had the surgery say that since

> we had surgery we can't really throw up, can someone please explain

> that to me, sorry such a silly question? I had the Rouen Y Gastric

> Bypass in 7/2000.

>

> Also, did you guys have any symptoms in the beginning, because I

> really don't feel pregnant... I know I am because of the baby and I

> am just wondering if that has anything to do with the surgery?

>

> thanks so much and I am sorry about so many questions!

>

> Chantae

> 4/9/97

> edd 6/10/02

> WLS 7/11/00

> Down 130 pds

> Weigh 170

>

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> Children are a reward from the Lord.

> Psalm 127:3

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Merry! You're not the only one who's experienced this!!! : ) In fact,

there have been a couple who got pg even before then, and one who

actually *was* pg when she *had* her surgery and she was just so early

along that it wasn't detected.

Don't be terrified -- you're going to have a sweet lil' baby! Let

yourself become excited rather than terrified. In all likelihood, you

AND baby will be just fine. Our bodies are remarkable things. That being

said, of course, we don't *encourage* anyone to get pg so soon, just

because your own body is still in adjustment phase and probably hasn't

lost all the weight yet. It's nice to be down at or near goal weight,

because it seems like the comfort and ease is so much greater then.

You will want to be sure that your OB/GYN isn't one of the ones who

panics and tries to encourage you to terminate your baby; how needless

and sad! You may just want to encourage him/her to check your blood

levels and vitamins and such things on a more regular basis, and if you

have problems dumping when you eat sugar (as many RNYs do), you and he

may need to re-think how you go about taking the glucose test when

you're a little further along.

But happiest of congratulations!!! Stick around and you should get lots

and lots of encouragement here.

-Kris

Merry wrote:

>Hi all,

>

>I am new to your group. I am almost 5 months post-op Lap RNY and

>just discovered I am pregnant. How? I am still working that one

>out. I am terrified that I am not going to have adequate nutrition

>for this baby. I am going to see my OB GYN in the morning but

>wondered if anyone else had this happen this early after WLS. Thanks

>for any advice you can give.

>

>Merry

>

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  • 2 months later...

> Checking in .... still hanging in there with a 2-14-2 due date

> looming up ahead. Hoping something will happen this weekend so making

> sure groceries are stocked, cleaning is done .. major nesting I guess

> ..

> lol

> Lyssa

oh Lyssa.... I hope the baby is right on time. come OOOOON baby.. come

OOOOOON baby. ;-)

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  • 1 year later...

amazing job on the w l, dayyyummm!! welcome aboard!

lori h.

> Just wanted to say Hi and introduce myself a little bit. I had my

> Surgery on Oct 29, 2002. I have lost a total of 180 pounds so far,

> and am about 30 pounds from goal! I didn't know this group exsisted

> until now! Wish I had found it way back when while we were making

> our decision. This is great!

>

> Ruth

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WOW WOW WOW----that's all I can say. Don't you just feel

wonderful!!!!

Lizanne

> > Just wanted to say Hi and introduce myself a little bit. I had my

> > Surgery on Oct 29, 2002. I have lost a total of 180 pounds so

far,

> > and am about 30 pounds from goal! I didn't know this group

exsisted

> > until now! Wish I had found it way back when while we were

making

> > our decision. This is great!

> >

> > Ruth

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  • 5 weeks later...

Hi Hester, welcome. Congratulations on getting a surgery date. Our

worth as human beings isn't determined by our weight, but its amazing

how much more clearly we can see our worth when not being weighed

down. You're in my prayers for a speedy recovery, honey.

**Don't dwell on past failures, dream of future successes.**

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Toi ~ Colorado

Lap RNY Medial Bypass

12/31/02

-129 lbs

St. Mark's Hospital

Salt Lake City, UT

Dr. Simper

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nice to have you as part of the family, hester. before you know it,

you'll be a more active, energetic mom. & surely your little girl

will be proud of her empowered & healthier mom. keep posting.

i was always heavy off & on all my life, & started dieting @ 14,

only to regain +.

lori h.

> Hi everyone my name is Hester and live in Fresno Ca. I am currently

> twentnine years old and have a little girl. I have been overweight

all my

> life and decided that I had to do something about it. My surgery

is

> wendesday the twenty fourth and my doctor is Boone . I can

> honestly say that Iam nervous and excited all in one bunch. I am

> dreading the pain after and am wondering if it is anything like a

c-section.

> I'am currently five one and weigh three hundred pounds. I find

myself

> happier now that I know that their is hope for me and my

life.Before I

> never condsidered myself worthy of anything positive. That is

until my

> daughter was born. I am alone but I'd rather raise her in peace

then

> in misery.I fear that this surgery will bring even more pain for

my life, but

> try to focus on the good that can happen as well. I am thankful

that all

> of you are so positive and energetic. I'm glad to be here with all

of you.

> faythe74@y...

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I am going through Sparrow Weight Management Center in Lansing, MI. Dr. Kam

will be the surgeon I will have but, I have to go through a 12 wks Optifast

program first. I feel like I'm starving to death!! LOL

in MI

340/Pre-Op

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