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I need some advice on anesthesia...

My date with Dr. Mont is Thursday 3/7... like almost immediately! I went to the

MDA session (Multiple Discipline Assessment) last week and learned a lot. Most

of my preconceptions about anesthesia were altered during a fifteen minute

discussion with the Sinai Hospital head of anesthesia. I was told that for a 55

year old male in good health (me), it made little difference what type of

anesthesia I chose. They would not use an epidural (which is like a multiple

use tap into the spine), because the operation is of too short a duration, and

post-op meds would be intravenous.

The choice for me appears to be a one shot spinal or general anesthesia. There

is very very slight (near zero) risk of complication on administering the

spinal, and a slight risk of a nasty headache on coming-to afterwards. This is

generally a greater risk for young females than for me. There is a slight risk

of urine retention with a spinal, and a catheter would be used for sure.

With the general anesthesia, the risk of nausea also is generally greater for

younger females, and I should have no problem. Because I will be positioned on

my side, the general anesthesia gives the anesthesiologist better control of

breathing function, but I would probably be breathing spontaneously most of the

time. A catheter would probably not be necessary, at least during the

operation.

So gang, how do I chose?? Any stories either way on either method would be

greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Kit

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Kitt,

I had a general Anesthetic with Dr. Mont in June. Given that any

anesthesia puts one into a quite different state of being I elected to avoid

anything related to the scary word " spinal " . I have no regrets but then I've

never had a " spinal " . It's hard to tell, after surgery, what effects ar

responsible for what. My experience was that nothing was really that bad.

It's all rather amazing.

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At 05:21 PM 3/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I need some advice on anesthesia...

Hey Kit,

Since they are giving you a choice, I guess the best answer is whatever you

feel most comfortable with. I had spinals with both my resurfacings. Dr.

Boyd uses long-acting DuraMorph. I don't think I got a second shot, and my

surgeries were 3+ and nearly 4 1/2 hours long. I was not comfortable with

the idea of a general, so I was perfectly fine with his preferred use of

the spinal. He says the recovery is quicker and with fewer

complications. I had no headache at all. I was nauseous on Day 2 of the

second hip, but that was from my low 'crit level-had nothing to do with the

anesthesia.

My mother had a general with her THR and was sick as a dog for days. They

kept her longer because she was SO sick and they couldn't get her 'crit

level back up any sooner. She was so impressed by my recovery that she is

hoping for a spinal on her upcoming second THR.

Best to you on your upcoming 'surfing adventure!

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Kit-- I don't know where the break off point is for not giving

epidural, but they gave me one three months ago there. I am 49, if

theres a difference between our ages its something that I don't know

about. I don't know everything.

I liked the epidural, when I woke after surgery there was very little

discomfort which is nice to have because your leg isn't under you

like it used to be. I had difficulty surrendering to the feeling of

almost total uselessness and helplessness. But I did like the lack of

pain in my hip, first time in 4-5 years.

I don't know how punchy the morphine would make you but the epidural

kept feelings to a numbness in the surgical area. Everywhere else I

had complete feelings.

Although, I have nothing to compare it to, I think I would do the

epidural. It was in my back until sometime the day after surgery, a

little hollow " fish line " in my lower back, administering pain meds

to only that area.

Good luck with surgery, take time to enjoy the food. If you get

Lee for a night nurse, tell him Bob says " Hi " and I hope to stop up

when I'm there late next week. Careful with the TV watching, it can

get pricey if you fall asleep with the wrong channel on...

You'll do well.

Captain Amaze_O

-- In surfacehippy@y..., " Kit Leary " <kitkit1@m...> wrote:

> I need some advice on anesthesia...

>

> My date with Dr. Mont is Thursday 3/7... like almost immediately!

I went to the MDA session (Multiple Discipline Assessment) last week

and learned a lot. Most of my preconceptions about anesthesia were

altered during a fifteen minute discussion with the Sinai Hospital

head of anesthesia. I was told that for a 55 year old male in good

health (me), it made little difference what type of anesthesia I

chose. They would not use an epidural (which is like a multiple use

tap into the spine), because the operation is of too short a

duration, and post-op meds would be intravenous.

>

> The choice for me appears to be a one shot spinal or general

anesthesia. There is very very slight (near zero) risk of

complication on administering the spinal, and a slight risk of a

nasty headache on coming-to afterwards. This is generally a greater

risk for young females than for me. There is a slight risk of urine

retention with a spinal, and a catheter would be used for sure.

>

> With the general anesthesia, the risk of nausea also is generally

greater for younger females, and I should have no problem. Because I

will be positioned on my side, the general anesthesia gives the

anesthesiologist better control of breathing function, but I would

probably be breathing spontaneously most of the time. A catheter

would probably not be necessary, at least during the operation.

>

> So gang, how do I chose?? Any stories either way on either method

would be greatly appreciated.

> Thanks, Kit

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FWIW I had absolutely no problems with the anesthesia although the morphine

made me really nauseated. I also had a general a couple of years ago for

knee surgery and would have no problems taking one again. I asked the

anesthesiologist about a spinal and he said he didn't do them. He said that

when they worked they were great but very occasionally something went wrong

and then it was very serious.

The only strange part (I was in the UK) was in the recovery room. They had

a very nice lass from Aberdeen checking up on me and since I couldn't

understand a word she said -- and sure wasn't feeling loquacious -- I did

my level best to ignore her, alarming the staff (since I wasn't responding

to anything). I eventually told them all to please go away (er, maybe

something stronger) and that was that.

Cheers,

Jeff

>At 05:21 PM 3/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>>I need some advice on anesthesia...

>

>Hey Kit,

>

>Since they are giving you a choice, I guess the best answer is whatever

you

>feel most comfortable with. I had spinals with both my resurfacings. Dr.

>Boyd uses long-acting DuraMorph. I don't think I got a second shot, and

my

>surgeries were 3+ and nearly 4 1/2 hours long. I was not comfortable with

>the idea of a general, so I was perfectly fine with his preferred use of

>the spinal. He says the recovery is quicker and with fewer

>complications. I had no headache at all. I was nauseous on Day 2 of the

>second hip, but that was from my low 'crit level-had nothing to do with

the

>anesthesia.

>My mother had a general with her THR and was sick as a dog for days. They

>kept her longer because she was SO sick and they couldn't get her 'crit

>level back up any sooner. She was so impressed by my recovery that she is

>hoping for a spinal on her upcoming second THR.

>

>Best to you on your upcoming 'surfing adventure!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kit! Had my surgery on Monday. I had an epidural. Post op Dr. Gross had

the spinal port catheter dosing me with a sedative (very little) and

bupivicaine. He also put a tiny (and I do mean tiny) catheter into the wound

which dosed with the same stuff. I felt absolutely no pain and I didn't have

to recover from the heavy duty drugs and morphine. I think you'll feel worse

with a general, but you also have to do what they do well. Good Luck...Buzz

Quoting Kit Leary :

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> I need some advice on anesthesia...<BR>

> <BR>

> My date with Dr. Mont is Thursday 3/7... like almost immediately! & nbsp; I

> went to the MDA session (Multiple Discipline Assessment) last week and

> learned a lot. & nbsp; Most of my preconceptions about anesthesia were altered

> during a fifteen minute discussion with the Sinai Hospital head of

> anesthesia. & nbsp; I was told that for a 55 year old male in good health (me),

> it made little difference what type of anesthesia I chose. & nbsp; They would

> not use an epidural (which is like a multiple use tap into the spine),

> because the operation is of too short a duration, and post-op meds would be

> intravenous. & nbsp; <BR>

> <BR>

> The choice for me appears to be a one shot spinal or general

> anesthesia. & nbsp; There is very very slight (near zero) risk of complication

> on administering the spinal, and a slight risk of a nasty headache on

> coming-to afterwards. & nbsp; This is generally a greater risk for young

> females than for me. & nbsp; There is a slight risk of urine retention with a

> spinal, and a catheter would be used for sure.<BR>

> <BR>

> With the general anesthesia, the risk of nausea also is generally greater for

> younger females, and I should have no problem. & nbsp; Because I will be

> positioned on my side, the general anesthesia gives the anesthesiologist

> better control of breathing function, but I would probably be breathing

> spontaneously most of the time. & nbsp; A catheter would probably not be

> necessary, at least during the operation.<BR>

> <BR>

> So gang, how do I chose?? & nbsp; Any stories either way on either method would

> be greatly appreciated.<BR>

> Thanks, Kit<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

>

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Kit I got an epidural with Dr Mont back in December, I'm 49. I don't

know but they must have changed things around.

Good luck tomorrow.

Captain Amaze_O

> I need some advice on anesthesia...

>

> My date with Dr. Mont is Thursday 3/7... like almost immediately!

I went to the MDA session (Multiple Discipline Assessment) last week

and learned a lot. Most of my preconceptions about anesthesia were

altered during a fifteen minute discussion with the Sinai Hospital

head of anesthesia. I was told that for a 55 year old male in good

health (me), it made little difference what type of anesthesia I

chose. They would not use an epidural (which is like a multiple use

tap into the spine), because the operation is of too short a

duration, and post-op meds would be intravenous.

>

> The choice for me appears to be a one shot spinal or general

anesthesia. There is very very slight (near zero) risk of

complication on administering the spinal, and a slight risk of a

nasty headache on coming-to afterwards. This is generally a greater

risk for young females than for me. There is a slight risk of urine

retention with a spinal, and a catheter would be used for sure.

>

> With the general anesthesia, the risk of nausea also is generally

greater for younger females, and I should have no problem. Because I

will be positioned on my side, the general anesthesia gives the

anesthesiologist better control of breathing function, but I would

probably be breathing spontaneously most of the time. A catheter

would probably not be necessary, at least during the operation.

>

> So gang, how do I chose?? Any stories either way on either method

would be greatly appreciated.

> Thanks, Kit

>

>

>

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I had 3 c-sections, 1 epidural, 1 spinal and 1 general. Epidural

wins, hands down! Controls the pain with little or no after

effects. When I finally go under the knife for my hip, I will

insist on the eppy.

Carlen

- In surfacehippy@y..., " amaze_o " <amaze_o@y...> wrote:

> Kit-- I don't know where the break off point is for not giving

> epidural, but they gave me one three months ago there. I am 49, if

> theres a difference between our ages its something that I don't

know

> about. I don't know everything.

> I liked the epidural, when I woke after surgery there was very

little

> discomfort which is nice to have because your leg isn't under you

> like it used to be. I had difficulty surrendering to the feeling

of

> almost total uselessness and helplessness. But I did like the lack

of

> pain in my hip, first time in 4-5 years.

> I don't know how punchy the morphine would make you but the

epidural

> kept feelings to a numbness in the surgical area. Everywhere else

I

> had complete feelings.

> Although, I have nothing to compare it to, I think I would do the

> epidural. It was in my back until sometime the day after surgery,

a

> little hollow " fish line " in my lower back, administering pain

meds

> to only that area.

> Good luck with surgery, take time to enjoy the food. If you get

> Lee for a night nurse, tell him Bob says " Hi " and I hope to stop

up

> when I'm there late next week. Careful with the TV watching, it

can

> get pricey if you fall asleep with the wrong channel on...

> You'll do well.

> Captain Amaze_O

>

>

> -- In surfacehippy@y..., " Kit Leary " <kitkit1@m...> wrote:

> > I need some advice on anesthesia...

> >

> > My date with Dr. Mont is Thursday 3/7... like almost

immediately!

> I went to the MDA session (Multiple Discipline Assessment) last

week

> and learned a lot. Most of my preconceptions about anesthesia

were

> altered during a fifteen minute discussion with the Sinai Hospital

> head of anesthesia. I was told that for a 55 year old male in

good

> health (me), it made little difference what type of anesthesia I

> chose. They would not use an epidural (which is like a multiple

use

> tap into the spine), because the operation is of too short a

> duration, and post-op meds would be intravenous.

> >

> > The choice for me appears to be a one shot spinal or general

> anesthesia. There is very very slight (near zero) risk of

> complication on administering the spinal, and a slight risk of a

> nasty headache on coming-to afterwards. This is generally a

greater

> risk for young females than for me. There is a slight risk of

urine

> retention with a spinal, and a catheter would be used for sure.

> >

> > With the general anesthesia, the risk of nausea also is

generally

> greater for younger females, and I should have no problem.

Because I

> will be positioned on my side, the general anesthesia gives the

> anesthesiologist better control of breathing function, but I would

> probably be breathing spontaneously most of the time. A catheter

> would probably not be necessary, at least during the operation.

> >

> > So gang, how do I chose?? Any stories either way on either

method

> would be greatly appreciated.

> > Thanks, Kit

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I had 3 c-sections, 1 epidural, 1 spinal and 1 general. Epidural

wins, hands down! Controls the pain with little or no after

effects. When I finally go under the knife for my hip, I will

insist on the eppy.

Carlen

- In surfacehippy@y..., " amaze_o " <amaze_o@y...> wrote:

> Kit-- I don't know where the break off point is for not giving

> epidural, but they gave me one three months ago there. I am 49, if

> theres a difference between our ages its something that I don't

know

> about. I don't know everything.

> I liked the epidural, when I woke after surgery there was very

little

> discomfort which is nice to have because your leg isn't under you

> like it used to be. I had difficulty surrendering to the feeling

of

> almost total uselessness and helplessness. But I did like the lack

of

> pain in my hip, first time in 4-5 years.

> I don't know how punchy the morphine would make you but the

epidural

> kept feelings to a numbness in the surgical area. Everywhere else

I

> had complete feelings.

> Although, I have nothing to compare it to, I think I would do the

> epidural. It was in my back until sometime the day after surgery,

a

> little hollow " fish line " in my lower back, administering pain

meds

> to only that area.

> Good luck with surgery, take time to enjoy the food. If you get

> Lee for a night nurse, tell him Bob says " Hi " and I hope to stop

up

> when I'm there late next week. Careful with the TV watching, it

can

> get pricey if you fall asleep with the wrong channel on...

> You'll do well.

> Captain Amaze_O

>

>

> -- In surfacehippy@y..., " Kit Leary " <kitkit1@m...> wrote:

> > I need some advice on anesthesia...

> >

> > My date with Dr. Mont is Thursday 3/7... like almost

immediately!

> I went to the MDA session (Multiple Discipline Assessment) last

week

> and learned a lot. Most of my preconceptions about anesthesia

were

> altered during a fifteen minute discussion with the Sinai Hospital

> head of anesthesia. I was told that for a 55 year old male in

good

> health (me), it made little difference what type of anesthesia I

> chose. They would not use an epidural (which is like a multiple

use

> tap into the spine), because the operation is of too short a

> duration, and post-op meds would be intravenous.

> >

> > The choice for me appears to be a one shot spinal or general

> anesthesia. There is very very slight (near zero) risk of

> complication on administering the spinal, and a slight risk of a

> nasty headache on coming-to afterwards. This is generally a

greater

> risk for young females than for me. There is a slight risk of

urine

> retention with a spinal, and a catheter would be used for sure.

> >

> > With the general anesthesia, the risk of nausea also is

generally

> greater for younger females, and I should have no problem.

Because I

> will be positioned on my side, the general anesthesia gives the

> anesthesiologist better control of breathing function, but I would

> probably be breathing spontaneously most of the time. A catheter

> would probably not be necessary, at least during the operation.

> >

> > So gang, how do I chose?? Any stories either way on either

method

> would be greatly appreciated.

> > Thanks, Kit

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> I had 3 c-sections, 1 epidural, 1 spinal and 1 general. Epidural

> wins, hands down! Controls the pain with little or no after

> effects. When I finally go under the knife for my hip, I will

> insist on the eppy.

To Carlen and Kit,

I just have to chime in on the side of the epidural. I've now had 7

surgeries in my lifetime and the epidural is definitely the only way

to go if you have to go under the knife. I've even had experience

with ether when I was 9. Medicine has come a long way thank goodness!

When I first heard that a general was the anesthesia of choice with

my local OS I was much dismayed. Probably one of the first things

that caught my attention with Dr. Gross was the fact that he used the

epidural.

Trudy

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