microsomal antibody test/Cytomel with Armour anyone?

[Guest guest]

Please pardon me...I am so weak. After YEARS of being told my levels

were normal, I finally was diagnosed last week as having Hashimotos.

My microsomal antibody value was 2239.5. All the report states is

that <5.0 is low---no high number was given. It is calculated in

IU/mL.

THANK GOD my obgyn was willing to start Armour last Feb. I have been

bedridden with fatigue since January. Also,I have depression which no

drug has helped at all.

I am trying to increase my Armour-I have gone from 30 up to 120 mgs

and never saw any mood or fatigue improvement.

Currently, I take 60 mg of Armour but I want to know if anyone takes

cytomel T3 with Armour. It is used to augment antidepressants. But I

am afraid to start a new antidepressant becuz they always make me

MORE tired.

Saying that I am in a fog is an understatement-I feel like I am in a

coma; like I am NEVER awake. Can anyone help? I can't wait forever

to get on the right Armour dose.... It's been months and I see no

sign of improvement...Losing hope. Thanks alot.

[Guest guest]

Can you post the latest test results for you like free t3, free t4 maybe tsh

and ferritin level as well as your other hormone levels?

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>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: microsomal antibody test/Cytomel with

>Armour anyone?

>Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 21:45:55 -0000

>

[Guest guest]

I take Cytomel with Armour, but you are taking a VERY low dosage of Armour to be

thinking about T3 supplementation yet. I am at 5 grains Armour, or 300 MG. How

long has it been since you increased your Armour dosage? If it has been over a

2-3 weeks, and you have no problems when you increase I would just start

increasing it slowly... It took me a year and a half to go from 1 grain Armour

to Five grains, and the Cytomel I am taking. It was cautious and sometimes I had

to stop and even back up a bit till my body could adjust. I think the longer you

have been hypo the slower your body needs to adapt to more T3. My theory is that

your heart isn't working properly when you are very hypo and the heart, being a

muscle, gets out of shape. You can't just slam it with tons of exercise (T3) you

must build it back up to good tone. Good luck and many of us have been feeling

what you are now! I was almost dead before I took my meds into my own hands and

started feeling closer to well than I have in over 20 years under doctors' care.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Don't ever lose hope! Wow, that's alot of antibodies! You say you've gone from

30 mg. to

120 mgs. of Armour. Yet you are on 60 mg. now? What's the reason for

backtracking?

I realize I'm way behind in e-mails so you may have already answered this. If

you have

I'll get to it eventually. I hope we can help you!

in Va.

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Please pardon me...I am so weak. After YEARS of being told my levels

were normal, I finally was diagnosed last week as having Hashimotos.

My microsomal antibody value was 2239.5. All the report states is

that <5.0 is low---no high number was given. It is calculated in

IU/mL.

THANK GOD my obgyn was willing to start Armour last Feb. I have been

bedridden with fatigue since January. Also,I have depression which no

drug has helped at all.

I am trying to increase my Armour-I have gone from 30 up to 120 mgs

and never saw any mood or fatigue improvement.

Currently, I take 60 mg of Armour but I want to know if anyone takes

cytomel T3 with Armour. It is used to augment antidepressants. But I

am afraid to start a new antidepressant becuz they always make me

MORE tired.

Saying that I am in a fog is an understatement-I feel like I am in a

coma; like I am NEVER awake. Can anyone help? I can't wait forever

to get on the right Armour dose.... It's been months and I see no

sign of improvement...Losing hope. Thanks alot.

[Guest guest]

I have been on all T3 in a timed release form so that I only had to

take it twice a day. This might be the solution for you. The

drawback to all T3 therapy is that you soon have no T4 in your blood

and this makes more work for the adrenals. T4 works to regulate the

heart and without it the adrenals have to pick up the slack with

adrenal hormones. Also, if you do extra activities and use up your

T3, you don't have T4 to convert for energy. Once again the adrenals

have to put out more hormones to try and compensate.

However, it is well known in the medical literature that T3 therapy

can cure long standing depression that is not affected much by other

medications. In Werner and Ingbar's " The Thyroid " there is material

in there that talks about some of the auto-immune changes that

happen to people with hypothyroidism that cause a loss of T3 in the

brain and these are the people who most benifit from T3 therapy.

Without sufficient T3 in the brain, it cannot get enough oxygen or

energy.

Anyway, if you are interested in all T3 therapy check out the

's syndrome site and find one of their doctors.

http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/ You can do all T3 therapy just as

easy as all T4. I've done it and I did well on it but found that I

had better adrenal reserve on Armour. My doctor thought I had

s because my reverse T3 was a bit elevated. I now don't think

I did. I have low adrenal. I was kind of limited in how much

activity I could do on T3. I didn't have depression so that wasn't a

motivation to stay on it.

Tish