Re: Re: impetigo

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>, in desperation I used to mix antibiotics with vanilla ice cream

when

>it was v important that DS1 had the medicine. It worked for him, he

>couldn't resist it!

Thanks for the tip phine - 'fraid it didn't work with my son though. I

have also tried mixing it with juice, with the effect that he is now

suspicious of everything I give him to eat or drink. I tried a syringe but

this was very traumatic, and most of the stuff ended up spat all over us. I

don't want to have to hold him down and force feed him the medicine against

his will (even if I physically could) because a) he's making progress with

the potty training at long last, and I don't want to upset him when he's

being so good and I don't want him to get a phobia about taking

medicine - up until now he's always been good about taking Calpol or cough

mixture or whatever.

I don't know what to do. He is covered in these spots and blisters. They

are not on his face yet, but it's only a matter of time, as they are now on

his hands - he is supposed to be having his photo taken next week at Toddler

group, but this is only a minor concern. I don't know what long-term

effects it may have on his health if left untreated. The other concern of

course is that I don't want it to spread to Caitlin, or anyone else for that

matter.

The dr's attitude was really quite unhelpful on Friday. When Rob went to

pick up the prescription, dr said we really had to make sure he took it, and

Rob feels it was said implying that he wasn't prepared to prescribe anything

else, having already given us 3 different prescriptions for it (Fucidin,

Flucloxacillin, Erythroped) over the course of the last 2 weeks.

I am hoping the antibiotic cream that Belinda mentioned might do the trick,

but the dr sounded really dubious about its efficacy on Friday. Still, it's

got to be more effective than antibiotics that he refuses to take hasn't it?

McVeigh

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When DS1 had such severe tonsilitis that I couldn't even persuade him to

take Calpol, which otherwise he would probably have swallowed by the gallon,

the doctor prescribed suppository painkillers. Not much fun to administer

and you would probably need someone else to hold the child in the

appropriate position (DH was totally useless at this - until I told him he

would have to do the inserting if he couldn't hold the child!). Work much

quicker than oral medicines and after the first couple of goes, DS1 wasn't

bothered by what we were doing to him.

Alison

>

> Sounds like you are having a horrible time. I remember DS1 having a

really

> really high temperature and REFUSING to even have Calpol, let alone the

> prescribed antibiotics, I was so anxious that he get the medicine down I

> actually went into the Post Office - we lived next door to one then, found

> some lady I vaguely knew, and got her to hold my hysterical child down

> whilst I forced it in and pinched his nose so he had to swallow. (I think

I

> was vergiing on the hysterical by that point too).

>

> Wouldn't recommend that, but you can imagine the level of my anxiety to do

> it!

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Right, in defiance of all Nestle boycotting principles, has

announced (in his own roundabout 3 year old way) that he is prepared to

swallow his medicine *if* he can have a Milky Bar for every dose he takes.

Question is: do I let him manipulate me in this way? Answer is YES. Damn

right I do!!!

Had a conversation with the nurse at our surgery, who said that

suppositories for children weren't licensed in this country, so they

couldn't prescribe them even as a last resort. When I asked her why, she

seemed most put out that I should be questioning her, and said it was to do

with child sexual abuse. Comments anyone?

McVeigh

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>When DS1 had such severe tonsilitis that I couldn't even persuade him to

>take Calpol, which otherwise he would probably have swallowed by the

gallon,

>the doctor prescribed suppository painkillers. Not much fun to administer

>and you would probably need someone else to hold the child in the

>appropriate position (DH was totally useless at this - until I told him he

>would have to do the inserting if he couldn't hold the child!). Work much

>quicker than oral medicines and after the first couple of goes, DS1 wasn't

>bothered by what we were doing to him.

>

>Alison

>

>>

>> Sounds like you are having a horrible time. I remember DS1 having a

>really

>> really high temperature and REFUSING to even have Calpol, let alone the

>> prescribed antibiotics, I was so anxious that he get the medicine down I

>> actually went into the Post Office - we lived next door to one then,

found

>> some lady I vaguely knew, and got her to hold my hysterical child down

>> whilst I forced it in and pinched his nose so he had to swallow. (I

think

>I

>> was vergiing on the hysterical by that point too).

>>

>> Wouldn't recommend that, but you can imagine the level of my anxiety to

do

>> it!

>

>

>

>

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In message <001501c02711$af183360$e81fac3e@oemcomputer>, McVeigh

writes

>Had a conversation with the nurse at our surgery, who said that

>suppositories for children weren't licensed in this country, so they

>couldn't prescribe them even as a last resort. When I asked her why, she

>seemed most put out that I should be questioning her, and said it was to do

>with child sexual abuse. Comments anyone?

I think this says more about her than anyone else...

There are plenty of drugs routinely used for children for whom that use

is unlicensed - for example steroid creams which are above 8 percent

volume (although these *are* licensed for broad use to treat skin

conditions). And suppositories *are* licensed (tell her to have a look

at the Cochrane database) in most formats where the drug is licensed to

be prescribed in that form.

I regularly received suppository prescriptions for antibiotics as a

child, both in the UK and in France. The only difference was that the

French dose was smaller, as it took into account the efficiency of the

method of delivery...

--

Helen Armfield

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Does that mean *any* suppositories, in which case my GP obviously isn't up

to date with current guidelines? I think this is taking things a little too

far. Suppositories are by far the order of the day in France and I'm not

aware of any statistics which show that incidences of child abuse are higher

over there as a result. Ridiculous.

Alison

>

> Right, in defiance of all Nestle boycotting principles, has

> announced (in his own roundabout 3 year old way) that he is prepared to

> swallow his medicine *if* he can have a Milky Bar for every dose he takes.

>

> Question is: do I let him manipulate me in this way? Answer is YES. Damn

> right I do!!!

>

> Had a conversation with the nurse at our surgery, who said that

> suppositories for children weren't licensed in this country, so they

> couldn't prescribe them even as a last resort. When I asked her why, she

> seemed most put out that I should be questioning her, and said it was to

do

> with child sexual abuse. Comments anyone?

>

>

>

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>:

> Had a conversation with the nurse at our surgery, who said that

>suppositories for children weren't licensed in this country, so they

>couldn't prescribe them even as a last resort. When I asked her why, she

>seemed most put out that I should be questioning her, and said it was to do

>with child sexual abuse. Comments anyone?

I find this very odd...they are widely used in France, so is abuse worse

there???

when we were i hospital with DD1 and she was vomiting, suppositories were

suggested very casually (as if they were used a fair bit) it certainly

wasn't " Weeeelll, we coooould use a suppository i suppose "

I (or dh ) didn't have a problem with it, though dh was not keen on

administering them!

I personally think the british have a real hang up about bottoms (men in

particular) its a real pity if it prevents children having appropriate and

non-stressful treatment.

Angi

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>> I was offered suppositaries for , aged 14 mths at the time,

>back in July by our local hospital. OK they were Valium, because she

>was having fits and Valium may be a litle dif legally, i don't know.

>If I were you I'd ask the doctor and press that you have a prob.

>Good luck.

Thanks, he's taking the medicine now - has decided that he " really likes it "

(little sod!). Not sure if the impetigo is clearing up though...

McVeigh

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