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Posted January 16, 2000 · January 16, 2000

Debbie what a great attitude. I am in the process of giving up the almighty

smokes now. this is my first completed week and it is tough. You go girl your

attitude will take you far

Love and Gentle Hugs,

Angie

Yesterday will fade and tomorrow will take care of itself. Lord, help me

give today my best shot

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Posted August 29, 2000 · August 29, 2000

>Hi everyone, I'm Dave. I'm 36 and had my first attack of pancreatitis

in 88...have had several

hospitalizations since. I became 'chronic' 3 years ago

Hi Dave!

Welcome to our group! Hop in and get comfy!

Becky

Posted September 13, 2000 · September 13, 2000

In a message dated 09/13/2000 6:42:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shirlf3542@... writes:

<< Up untill June of " 99 " . I had a fulltime job. Plus ran my home. Now

its all I can do to get out of bed sometimes.

Thank you

almeta >>

Hi Almeta!

I know too well where you are coming from regarding working and running a

home etc.... as do many others here. I used to take care of an ill brother

(full time job by itself) I was a legal secretary, plus I have a huge home

with four doggies and a kitty! We also have a pool! I quit working in

December of 1999 and my brother passed away last July (while I was still in a

coma from an accute attack of panc). I have since been married to the love

of my life and he has a great job here at 's which has enabled me to

stay home. While I consider myself very lucky for this, I also have a real

problem with my self esteem and self worth. I have always been the one who

takes care of everybody and everything and always had a good job! And like

you, getting out of bed sometimes is a day long event now! I am only 35

years old----not fair!!!!!

I hope that you find some comfort here sharing your stories and reading ours.

Hugs and Wishes your way!

Posted September 13, 2000 · September 13, 2000

In a message dated 9/13/00 5:42:18 PM Central Daylight Time,

shirlf3542@... writes:

<< .My attacks are getting

worst and coming faster. Any infro you could give me would be so very

helpful. Up untill June of " 99 " . I had a fulltime job. Plus ran my home.

Now

its all I can do to get out of bed sometimes.

Thank you

almeta >>

almeta - you are among many friends. we all listen to the bad as well as the

good. i am so sorry that you are suffering from this complex illness. i look

forward to getting to know you better.

debbie

Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

Hi Beverley & welcome!

I don`t have any brill suggestions re your MIL...does feel the same way

as you? That gives you a head start.

Perhaps you could givce her the NCT Tesco leaflet - 'Becoming a

Grandparent', I don`t have a copy here to check what it says but I am sure

it has something to say about not interfering......

Barbara Wyant

Student ANT Romsey Hants

Mum to Eleanor (9) & (6)

Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

Has anyone got any advice on how we can persuade them that

>our baby does NOT need a new toy or video buying every week?

we had( still have!!) this prob with dh's mum...every visit would bringa

new toy!

we kept on and on and on saying don't, in polite and not so polite ways!

what really brought it home was when our dd was 20 mths and she eas given a

doll, and turned round pointed to MILs bag & said " more! "

it was exactly what i had wanted to avoid so i just turned to MIL and said

" see thats what i didn't wantto happen "

it is a bit better -(3 years on...!) but she still tries to break the rules

and says things like " naughty grandma has brought you a present "

arrgggghhhh don't get me started!!

you have my sympathies... jsut reapeat yourself over & over, get your DH to

do it most of all so they know you are together on it and it isn't just a

DIL thing, and if they must buy things channel it into useful stuff like

clothes, which kids don't see as presents but really helps you out!

good luck!

Angi

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Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:26:38 -0000, " Beverley Wainwright "

wrote:

>

>Hi everyone

>

>I have just joined the list after being told about you by

>Dick who I met on another e-groups list (Hi - I made it!!)

Hi Beverley, and welcome. Congrats on the pregnancy !

With regard to MIL, I'm luckier in this respect in that they usually

ask what would like before buying. I think they know that I

(and 's daddy) have strong ideas about parenting and what we

want for , so have learnt to ask before buying. My mum, OTOH,

usually brings something totally unsuitable each time she comes

here, and I often manage to get into an argument with her. Think

she's finally twigged now tho - she's also started to ask before

buying.

For 's impending birthday, I passed around a children's wooden

toy catalogue and suggested that MIL and great grandma both might

like to choose something from this for . They've both chosen

and ordered nice wooden presents from it, that are suitable for his

age, etc. Perhaps you could get hold of copies of Boots/MC/ELC

catalogues, give them to MIL, and say that you have both decided to

buy only from these people as you know their toys are safe, so could

she please do the same. You could also stress that you really don't

want your child bombarded with material things at an early age,

altho that might go in one ear and out of the other ! Ultimately,

you may have to become a bit flexible, and maybe secrete any

unsuitable toys away (the bin is as good a place as any, I find !)

if they insist on giving them.

As someone else said, getting your DH to back up what you're saying

to your MIL is important.

Anyway, hope you don't let the MIL affect you and your babe too

much.

Cheers,

--

Clare Lusher.

SAHM to Ruairí (24.10.99).

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" The newborn baby will have only three demands. They are warmth in

the arms of its mother, food from her breasts, and security in the

knowledge of her presence. Breastfeeding satisfies all three. "

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Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

said:With regard to MIL, I'm luckier in this respect in that they

usually

ask what would like before buying. I think they know that I

(and 's daddy) have strong ideas about parenting and what we

want for , so have learnt to ask before buying. <<

My MIL asks....and when i say thanks but no thanks, still goes ahead!

Her presents are pretty much always " suitable " (she is a reception

teacher!) there are just too many of them, Like s MIL she knows we

have strong ideas but still insists on buying within those strictures! The

afct that we have a " strong idea " against too much material stuff bypasses

her -she is a bit of a " throw money at a problem " person.

her biggest " trick " when we say no, is to buy something and announce that it

is to live at grandmas, to be played with then, in her mind that doesn't

count as a present!

.>>For 's impending birthday, I passed around a children's wooden

toy catalogue and suggested that MIL and great grandma both might

like to choose something from this for .<<

this is a very good idea! we do this for bdays & christmas, it definaitely

helps as MIL would just go off & buy her idea of whatever it was you

mentioned that the girls might like!

Its also a good idea for clothes too! I channelled MIL into baby gap once

and now i think she is their top customer!

Angi

waiting delivery of a wooden playhouse...

Now there are somethings i just can't say no to!!!!!

Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

Hi Beverley,

It would seem I have the opposite situation. I had an awful pregnancy

but have a wonderful Mother-In-Law (MIL). My actual Mum has been a bit of a

pain though.

I guess Grandparents will always spoil their grandchildren, nomatter

what we do. Fortunately both sets of ours live along way away, so the

spoiling is only when they visit. Do I take it your MIL lives nearby? This

may be a down side when it comes to spoiling, but just think (babysitting,

ironing etc) she may be able to help, you'll just have to channel her.

My son is 21 months and he seems to just accept presents when they

arrive but not think about it otherwise. So I guess you have about 2 years

to get MIL moulded into shape. He He He.

I guess with the inappropriate toys, you might have to say you'll keep

it till he/she is a bit older (then hide it away) With any luck child will

probably prefer the box/packaging anyway.

I hope you get it sorted

Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

Angi Nutt

and if they must buy things channel it into useful stuff like

> clothes, which kids don't see as presents but really helps you out!

Yep I agree, clothes are a good alternative.

Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

>

Lynda>How often do you see your in-laws Angi? My M & D always arrive with

gifts for

>the kids and I don't have a problem with it, but then we only see them

about

>once every 3 months

umm well when we livd in London it was probably once a week!

now its every 2 -3 weeks probably

Ironically we see my M & D maybe a bit less, -it goes in phases depending on

what is happening- just cos they are less hung up about " having to come &

see the children "

Sometimes i feel like i am only here to make the tea while they visit the

children! they come in the day so its not even as if they see their son

either!!

I f we saw them only every couple of months then i wouldn't mind about

pressies at all, its just when it is *so* frequent...

Sorry, a large cage has been rattled!!

Angi

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Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

HI Beverly and welcome

In Laws ahhhh.

I have told them what we want for them and get something completely different,

even when they have asked. DD is the favourite niece so she gets more spent on

her than the boys which will become an issue but they won't be told. I accept

the toys, say thank you and they go to charity, as I have given up trying to get

them to buy suitable things.

The more children I have the more MIL gives her opinion. She can now tell by the

look on my face that I disagree with her, so she tells me, but I still can do no

right in her eyes, so I whinge about it to DH and then move on, no point in

saying anything to her.

Not very helpful, am I? But we are here to listen to your complaints and

remember you are not alone in your problems.

Mc

SAHM 6, Olivia 3, 1, 15/3/00

Nearly Ex-Editor Wallingford and District

Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

Welcome Beverley,

I have a New Years Eve baby (well nearly 2 year old) and I reckon that if

you have to have a birthday that close to Christmas then NYE is the day to

have it, you'll never be short of a party.

I agree with what the others were saying about presents from your MIL,

clothes are the best bet. Mind you they can still buy clothes you don't

like or which are in the wrong size. I spent a year exchanging things my

MIL had bought for at Mothercare as she was insistent that Em was

smaller than she really was. Luckily Kieran at 20 months is still in 12-18

month clothes so the buying of small clothes isn't an issue and she's

finally realised that *is* tall for her age. Every so often she turns

up with a huge bag of stuff from Asda or BHS which aren't places I normally

shop so I quite enjoy it.

You just need to channel your MIL's buying power in the right direction.

Thanks to my Mum and my MIL I have still only bought one pair of shoes for

and none for Kieran and is nearly 5, I rarely buy clothes and

what I do buy tend to come from Nearly New Sales or from Kids Only as I sell

them so don't pay full price and 's new school uniform cost me exactly

£4.00 (summer dress & pinafore from NCT Nearly New £2 each and all the new

stuff was bought by my MIL & Mum)

Cerys

>

> Hi everyone

>

> I have just joined the list after being told about you by

> Dick who I met on another e-groups list (Hi - I made it!!)

>

> I will have been married to for 5 years in January and we are

> expecting our first baby on New Years Eve!!

Posted September 21, 2000 · September 21, 2000

Beverley Wainwright wrote:

> Has anyone got any advice on how we can persuade them that our baby does

> NOT need a new toy or video buying every week?--

Hello Beverley!!

Not a clue how to help with this one, my parents are very good about this,

and DH's parents have *never* bought or Kitty a present!!! We get

given money at Christmas and New Year and then have to go back and tell them

what we bought with it. Strange people! Not as though they are short of

cash or that they have hoards of people to buy for, DH is an only child and

the only family they have.

Anyway nice to 'see' you here!

Dick,

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Posted September 27, 2000 · September 27, 2000

Dear Dawn,

Welcome to the group. It is amazing how so many people can have such

similar stories and yet, everyone is so different. I am 32 and have been

dealing with this for over a year. I had elevated amylase and lipase with

abd. pain initially. Then I had an ERCP and ended up with acute panc. Never

found any answers but am still having pain, nausea, etc... The thing I find

interesting is that no one has wanted to do the manometry. I don't know if it

isn't available here or if, somehow, I don't meet some criteria. I guess it

doesn't really matter as I've heard so many people say that the stents

haven't helped them. It would be nice, however, to know that there is a cause

for my pain. Would you believe that I still sit here wondering if this is all

something that I've imagined?!!??

Anyway, I hope that you find this group to be of as much help as it

has been to me. The support you find here is really great.

Take care,

Posted November 9, 2000 · November 9, 2000

hi neale

Posted August 17, 2001 · August 17, 2001

Who me ? What's 41 when it comes to the cutest little angel that ever

was?!?!

Lenore

Re: New Member

Best of luck! WLS *can* affect fertility *if* your weight has been a

factor in preventing pgcy. But all the WLS in the world may not overcome

the age of your eggs... not to be mean at all, and I sincerely hope

you're successful, as long as you're aware that the chances are

significantly lower in your 40s. It *can* be done (ask Lenore!), but

it's not a guarantee.

Good luck, and happy trying! LOL

Kris

sandianz@... wrote:

> I had WLS June 13, 2000. I am down 130#s and feel wonderful. We

> have decided after all this time ( I am 45 yrs old) to try for one

> more child. I am estatic over this and hope to get pregnant soon. I

> was wondering thought the effects WLS has on pregnancy and about

> weight gain during pregnancy. My primary doc is all for me and has

> been very supportive during all of this. She will send me to a high

> risk OB though. Because of both my age and surgery. Any commentgs

> would be appreciated.

>

> sandi A.

>

Posted August 17, 2001 · August 17, 2001

<grin>

K

Lenore Levy wrote:

> Who me ? What's 41 when it comes to the cutest little angel that ever

>

> was?!?!

> Lenore

>

> Re: New Member

>

> Best of luck! WLS *can* affect fertility *if* your weight has been a

> factor in preventing pgcy. But all the WLS in the world may not

> overcome

> the age of your eggs... not to be mean at all, and I sincerely hope

> you're successful, as long as you're aware that the chances are

> significantly lower in your 40s. It *can* be done (ask Lenore!), but

> it's not a guarantee.

>

> Good luck, and happy trying! LOL

>

> Kris

Posted August 17, 2001 · August 17, 2001

My preg was considered high risk, coz of my age by my doc. Which really

only meant a few extra sonograms and a little special dietary counseling re:

salt and sugar, which wasn't an issue coz I dump. It was an easy text book

preg.

My new ob doesn't consider it high risk. It is subjective.

Lenore

New Member

I had WLS June 13, 2000. I am down 130#s and feel wonderful. We

have decided after all this time ( I am 45 yrs old) to try for one

more child. I am estatic over this and hope to get pregnant soon. I

was wondering thought the effects WLS has on pregnancy and about

weight gain during pregnancy. My primary doc is all for me and has

been very supportive during all of this. She will send me to a high

risk OB though. Because of both my age and surgery. Any commentgs

would be appreciated.

sandi A.

Children are a reward from the Lord.

Psalm 127:3

Posted August 17, 2001 · August 17, 2001

No need to be impressed... I saw it and looked it up. I had no idea what

Proverbs 15:18 said; there are gobs and gobs of 's Proverbs, and

I can barely remember my telephone number as it is, so I'm thankful I

can just look up the stuff I don't know.

hehe

no Bible-thumpers in this house... we love Jesus, but we don't believe

in whacking people over the head with Bibles... just not a useful

endeavor. LMHO

K

Lenore Levy wrote:

> Kris you recognize all those bible quotes on sight? IAm very

> impressed by

> you bible thumpers who can always quote a verse

> Lenore

Posted August 18, 2001 · August 18, 2001

I wasn't sure if " bible thumpers " was construed negatively. yOu know I

didn't mean it that way, but just in case anyone else didn't < I didn't.

LEnore

Re: new member

No need to be impressed... I saw it and looked it up. I had no idea what

Proverbs 15:18 said; there are gobs and gobs of 's Proverbs, and

I can barely remember my telephone number as it is, so I'm thankful I

can just look up the stuff I don't know.

hehe

no Bible-thumpers in this house... we love Jesus, but we don't believe

in whacking people over the head with Bibles... just not a useful

endeavor. LMHO

K

Lenore Levy wrote:

> Kris you recognize all those bible quotes on sight? IAm very

> impressed by

> you bible thumpers who can always quote a verse

> Lenore

Posted September 28, 2001 · September 28, 2001

Hi Dee,

Nice to meet you. How far along are you?

Posted September 28, 2001 · September 28, 2001

Hi, ..........WELCOME, and good luck on getting you're approval. WLS

has changed my life drastically.

Dee P.G.

new member

> Hello everybody,

> My name is , I am 30 yrs old. I am waiting now for insurance

> approval for my weight loss surgery. I was very excited when Dr.

> Wongsa told me that after my surgery I should have no problems

> getting pregnant and carrying a baby to term. I have tried for 10

> yrs to have a baby but because of my weight I failed each attempt. I

> have a wonderful husband and now only need two other things to make

> my life complete, to be able to loose weight and keep it off and to

> have a family.

> Thanks for your time,

>

Posted August 6, 2003 · August 6, 2003

Hi, I want to thank you for this forum. I have really had a hard time

because the original doctor couldn't schedule my surgery until after

the 1st of Aug and by then my insurance changed from Tricare Prime to

Medicare/Tricare for life. The problem was I would have to pay

upfront because he had a problem collecting from Medicare. I cant

afford that so I had to find a new Doctor and I did on Obesity

Help.com. My first appointment is on Oct 10 and I will have to take

all my completed paperwork with me and it will probably be done in

Dec. Its ok, I will be patient as long as I know it is possible. I

am 65 but all my health problems are weight related. Thanks again.

Posted August 7, 2003 · August 7, 2003

Good luck to you and welcome to our little neck of cyber world. Keep us

informed! :-)

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