Re: Immunizations...yes or no

[Guest guest]

Dr. Cave's book, What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About

Childhood Immunizations is a fairly unbiased source of info in that

she is not " against " vaccinations-- she is pro-vaccine-safety. Which

means that she wants to see a safer schedule, with fewer shots, and

of course, safer ingredients in the vaccines, with more consideration

being given to individual family history with those who are in a more

at-risk position getting their shots much later, or not at all. The

book mainly just goes into what the diseases are, what are the

ingredients in the shots, how were the shots made, what are some of

the reported adverse effects, and really doesn't tell you if you

should vaccinate or not vaccinate. It really is about the most

middle-of-the road source I know of. Maybe others have other

suggestions???

W

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wrote:

> >The reason I'm asking is for my 7 month

> old girl, Emma. I want to do what is right for her and I just

don't

> know what that is. I want an unbiased source of information and I

> just can't find it!

[Guest guest]

With my second (typically developing) child, I delayed her shots. I spaced

them out and followed the protocol laid out in 's Caves book, " What

your doctor may not tell you about childhood vaccinations. " (GREAT BOOK!)

As of now, she is 33 months and the only one that she hasn't yet had is MMR.

I want to wait until after her third birthday and for spring time when she

is less likely to be exposed to viruses going around. (Getting shots in the

winter months is very risky b/c all the viruses going around puts our immune

system in a compromised state and more susceptible to vaccine damage.)

In regards to Greenspan's Floor time...I think it is awesome! I bought the

book " The Child with Special Needs " and it has a chapter about floor time

and how to implement it. It is very easy and has made me such a better

playmate with my children. It also change my outlook on how I handle my

children in general. Awesome strategy!

Tricia Morin

North Carolina

> Hi everyone. I have been reading posts on this website for a while

> now, but this is my first posting. I have a son who is 30 mos old

> and has been diagnosed with motor and speech apraxia. He has a lot

> of issues we are addressing, but I just wanted to ask a few questions

> of you experts...the other parents dealing with the same stuff I am.

> It sure is good to talk to you! No one I know can understand!

>

> My first question is about immunizations. had them all. Now I

> am hearing a lot of negatives about them. His PCP of course tells me

> that immunizations are safe and necessary. 's SLP says they are

> the worst thing I could do. The reason I'm asking is for my 7 month

> old girl, Emma. I want to do what is right for her and I just don't

> know what that is. I want an unbiased source of information and I

> just can't find it! Emma has no issues so far except she is

> generally a quiet baby and has not babbled yet. I'm not sure if that

> is reason for worry, based on 's issues or not. Anyway, just

> looking for advice and experience.

>

> My second question is...does anyone know the proper dosage of ProEFA

> for a 30 month old. is currently on 2 capsules/day of the

> Nordic Naturals. DHA is 196mg. Should I be giving him more? We

> have seen improvement in him since starting, but I want to make sure

> his dose is appropriate for his age.

>

> Third question...Stanley Greenspan's floortime/DIR model. Anyone

> using it? What kind of results are you seeing?

>

> Thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide.

>

> Amy

[Guest guest]

I will first say that I am very pro-vaccine. My daughters almost

died of a respiratory virus (RSV) that currently does not have a

vaccine for it. It is one of the top priorities for drug

manufacturers to come up with an RSV vaccine, and when it does I

will be very much supportive of this vaccine.

On the other hand. Many parents do not look into whether or not

vaccines are safe for their own kids. For example, the smallpox

vaccine is not recommended for people that have eczema. It can kill

those people.

My daughter had seizures when she was little, and the DPT vaccine

can be dangerous to kids that have a seizure disorder.

Unfortunately, because of the RSV my daughters are highly

susceptible to whooping cough (Pertussis). If they catch whooping

cough they would either be very sick and would likely die. Whooping

cough is very prevalent in communities with a high illegal immigrant

population. We live in California, and it has a high illegal

immigrant population. We decided to give a modified DPT vaccine to

my daughter.

For most kids, I would also probably skip the chicken pox vaccine.

We didn't because my daughters have asthma, and are routinely put on

oral steroids. The steroids suppress the immune system, and they

could get very ill from chicken pox if they caught it while on

steroids.

I automatically gave my kids the Hib vaccine, and I think I would

probably skip that one now.

It's good to be informed about vaccines especially how it relates to

your child, and to figure out the real risks vs benefits.

Good luck!

Suzi

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wrote:

> Hi everyone. I have been reading posts on this website for a while

> now, but this is my first posting. I have a son who is 30 mos old

> and has been diagnosed with motor and speech apraxia. He has a

lot

> of issues we are addressing, but I just wanted to ask a few

questions

> of you experts...the other parents dealing with the same stuff I

am.

> It sure is good to talk to you! No one I know can understand!

>

> My first question is about immunizations. had them all. Now

I

> am hearing a lot of negatives about them. His PCP of course tells

me

> that immunizations are safe and necessary. 's SLP says they

are

> the worst thing I could do. The reason I'm asking is for my 7

month

> old girl, Emma. I want to do what is right for her and I just

don't

> know what that is. I want an unbiased source of information and I

> just can't find it! Emma has no issues so far except she is

> generally a quiet baby and has not babbled yet. I'm not sure if

that

> is reason for worry, based on 's issues or not. Anyway, just

> looking for advice and experience.

>

> My second question is...does anyone know the proper dosage of

ProEFA

> for a 30 month old. is currently on 2 capsules/day of the

> Nordic Naturals. DHA is 196mg. Should I be giving him more? We

> have seen improvement in him since starting, but I want to make

sure

> his dose is appropriate for his age.

>

> Third question...Stanley Greenspan's floortime/DIR model. Anyone

> using it? What kind of results are you seeing?

>

> Thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide.

>

> Amy

[Guest guest]

Amy

>

> My first question is about immunizations.

is over 3- has multiple issues. We did most of the immunizations at

the beginning and then I started geting other info. I would first of all

not do multiple immunications on Emma. There really isn't a reason to do

that other than you may need to take multiple trips to the doc. We waited

on the MMR. Our dev ped said that w/ her daughters she waited until they

were well older than the 12 mo recommendation. She waits on many of the

shots for her kids until the brain is fully ??malieanated?? around 2 years

old. Also the MMR booster given at age 5 is given because not all kids

" take " w/ the first shot BUT you can do a blood test to see if it did take

and therefore not get the 2nd shot if it did. (The shot is cheaper....thus

they don't recommend the blood test.) We also decided to not get the

Chicken pox- for girls especially I think this might be an issue because it

doesn't necessarily fully protect and when she gets older it is dangerous to

get the chicken pox while pregnant. I am betting by that time chicken pox

immunity tests for pregnant women will be routine. If andrew doesn't get it

naturally by 10 or so we may get it for him. Don't beat yourself up about

your son...I do that to myself....does not good:) This all said- I would

just do your research on EACH shot and decide each one individually. (On

the MMR I have heard that although you can do it separately...it is

difficult to get one of them individually.)

>

> My second question is...does anyone know the proper dosage of ProEFA

> for a 30 month old. is currently on 2 capsules/day of the

> Nordic Naturals. DHA is 196mg. Should I be giving him more?

I plan to start on this soon- I'll be anxious to see this.

>

> Third question...Stanley Greenspan's floortime/DIR model. Anyone

> using it? What kind of results are you seeing?

I have read it and follow " ideas " in it. I don't think it has helped w/ the

apraxia per say-drills do that better....BUT when I follow 's lead he

is more participatory and does get more out correctly because he WANTS to do

it.

Another Amy....in Mich