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,

Thank you so much for your in-depth e-mail. I will keep you and the list posted

once I start the EFAs. I'm curious to see what my daughter's neuro knows/thinks

when we see him in June. We see Dr. Agin in October, unfortunately a long wait,

but a worthwhile one.

Thanks again,

Jerre

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This is a pathetic attack on Dr. Rath.

It's absurd to complain about how he makes money, when he's attempting to

deliver solutions to the market, cancer and health markets, in such a way

that he doesn't land in jail in this country, and one that also supports

his ideals.

It's further insane to complain about the cost of products that work,

particularly when dealing with life threatening cancer. What's a life

worth? When cancer treatments are so outrageously priced in the

traditional medical community, killing hundreds daily, nobody bats an

eye. But when someone is promoting a product that will prolong life, we

have the ridiculous complaint about who's making money.

Kees, get a grip. Your complaints about MLM are futile and

ridiculous. MLM does something that the medical community has refused to

do, they've spent an incredible amount of time educating people about real

alternatives. And you won't pay for their time? Who is the thief, Kees,

the MLMers or the doctors who peddle their tripe and death?

Something else that you don't know, yes, Kees, there's plenty you don't

know...... MLM is solely responsible for keeping and making natural

supplements in the FREE market here in this country. I can tell you for a

FACT they are the only ones who hire lobbists and lawyers to protect their

interests here in the US. I know because I was a paid lobbist by some of

the biggest MLM companies in the business. Consumers should kiss the ass

of companies like Amway, Nature Sunshine, and schools of natural healing in

this country. They are the ones footing the bill to fight for freedom, not

only to protect the rights to sell such products as you disdain, but also

the concurrent freedom of access to professionals who sell them.

MLM companies don't make half as much as any one small pharmaceutical

company, yet they accomplish far more.

WE have freedom in this country, BECAUSE of natural health MLM companies,

Kees, so your blathering about profits from MLM is ignorant and naive. You

obviously don't understand the nature of business in the US, or the

political environment, much less it's financial realities.

Furthermore, I personally know people who are " getting rich " on MLM. Their

" opulent " lifestyles would confuse you, Kees, because they're struggling

financially, not rolling in the dough. Most people who are involved in MLM

are very modest and spend far more promoting and educating than they are

" making the big money " that you accuse Dr. Rath of. If we had to wait

around for medical pioneers like Bursynski or others to become available,

we'd all die on their waiting lists and in their waiting rooms, like so

many have. Thank God people have used MLM products to survive in the

meantime.

Something else that ignorance about MLM does, is that it polarizes a

HEALING community. SHAME ON YOU KEES for creating emotional distress amoung

people who read your rantings about the evils of MLM and feel guilty for

using those companies products. Everything we do, EVERYTHING!! Should be

done with an attitude of THANKSGIVING AND GRATITUDE for REAL HEALING TO

TAKE PLACE.

From a business perspective, in examining the life cycle of a product

that's introduced into the market with MLM, considerable amounts of

education and research go into bringing these products to market. By

getting rid of the middle man, and paying the MLMer, the company saves on

promotion, marketing and delivery costs. It's a more efficient way to bring

the product to the market. As the product is better understood, it enters

the retail markets as demand is created.

The truth is, most people would still be drinking water from the streets if

someone told them there's a better way. In fact, most people still follow

their doctors advice and do chemo and radiation, even though there's

people all around them with products that work better. Thank God that

armies of MLMers are still out there saving lives. Yes, Kees, they ARE

SAVING LIVES. And they're doing it with MLM products. The fact that they

do it with MLM products of inferior quality at times, should be even more

enlightening as to what it takes to heal!!!

But only an attitude of gratitude and thanksgiving would lead to this

epiphany. Anyone who's interested in knowing how to improve the quality of

your life with MLM products please contact me. I could use the

business. I'll tell you how I've saved the lives of my family with these

products and made my world a better place because of them.

saving lives with MLM products and loving it,

Moe

At 10:11 AM 6/12/03 +0000, you wrote:

>Katharine I expressed myself too hard with the words arrogance and

>misleading. The problem what I have with Dr. Raht is his extreme agressive

>way of approach and he earns an enormous amount of money with his

>multilevelcompany. Dr. Bursynki and Dr. Gonszalez f.i. are more modest

>though also their treatments costs a lot of money but at least they do a lot

>of research also. Dr. Rath actually doesn't do a lot of research but uses

>testomonies from patients which with all respect aren't always objective.

>But still I think the approach of Dr. Raht is an interesting option but also

>Dr. Gorter and Dr. Vogl are doing very interesting work with remarkable

>results as well dr., Dr. Burzynski etc. etc.

>

>I'm sorry I'm sometimes a bit rough in my expressions and reactions. It's

>also a lack of perfect english and I'm an emotional person.

>

>Gr. kees braam

>Webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

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This is a pathetic attack on Dr. Rath.

It's absurd to complain about how he makes money, when he's attempting to

deliver solutions to the market, cancer and health markets, in such a way

that he doesn't land in jail in this country, and one that also supports

his ideals.

It's further insane to complain about the cost of products that work,

particularly when dealing with life threatening cancer. What's a life

worth? When cancer treatments are so outrageously priced in the

traditional medical community, killing hundreds daily, nobody bats an

eye. But when someone is promoting a product that will prolong life, we

have the ridiculous complaint about who's making money.

Kees, get a grip. Your complaints about MLM are futile and

ridiculous. MLM does something that the medical community has refused to

do, they've spent an incredible amount of time educating people about real

alternatives. And you won't pay for their time? Who is the thief, Kees,

the MLMers or the doctors who peddle their tripe and death?

Something else that you don't know, yes, Kees, there's plenty you don't

know...... MLM is solely responsible for keeping and making natural

supplements in the FREE market here in this country. I can tell you for a

FACT they are the only ones who hire lobbists and lawyers to protect their

interests here in the US. I know because I was a paid lobbist by some of

the biggest MLM companies in the business. Consumers should kiss the ass

of companies like Amway, Nature Sunshine, and schools of natural healing in

this country. They are the ones footing the bill to fight for freedom, not

only to protect the rights to sell such products as you disdain, but also

the concurrent freedom of access to professionals who sell them.

MLM companies don't make half as much as any one small pharmaceutical

company, yet they accomplish far more.

WE have freedom in this country, BECAUSE of natural health MLM companies,

Kees, so your blathering about profits from MLM is ignorant and naive. You

obviously don't understand the nature of business in the US, or the

political environment, much less it's financial realities.

Furthermore, I personally know people who are " getting rich " on MLM. Their

" opulent " lifestyles would confuse you, Kees, because they're struggling

financially, not rolling in the dough. Most people who are involved in MLM

are very modest and spend far more promoting and educating than they are

" making the big money " that you accuse Dr. Rath of. If we had to wait

around for medical pioneers like Bursynski or others to become available,

we'd all die on their waiting lists and in their waiting rooms, like so

many have. Thank God people have used MLM products to survive in the

meantime.

Something else that ignorance about MLM does, is that it polarizes a

HEALING community. SHAME ON YOU KEES for creating emotional distress amoung

people who read your rantings about the evils of MLM and feel guilty for

using those companies products. Everything we do, EVERYTHING!! Should be

done with an attitude of THANKSGIVING AND GRATITUDE for REAL HEALING TO

TAKE PLACE.

From a business perspective, in examining the life cycle of a product

that's introduced into the market with MLM, considerable amounts of

education and research go into bringing these products to market. By

getting rid of the middle man, and paying the MLMer, the company saves on

promotion, marketing and delivery costs. It's a more efficient way to bring

the product to the market. As the product is better understood, it enters

the retail markets as demand is created.

The truth is, most people would still be drinking water from the streets if

someone told them there's a better way. In fact, most people still follow

their doctors advice and do chemo and radiation, even though there's

people all around them with products that work better. Thank God that

armies of MLMers are still out there saving lives. Yes, Kees, they ARE

SAVING LIVES. And they're doing it with MLM products. The fact that they

do it with MLM products of inferior quality at times, should be even more

enlightening as to what it takes to heal!!!

But only an attitude of gratitude and thanksgiving would lead to this

epiphany. Anyone who's interested in knowing how to improve the quality of

your life with MLM products please contact me. I could use the

business. I'll tell you how I've saved the lives of my family with these

products and made my world a better place because of them.

saving lives with MLM products and loving it,

Moe

At 10:11 AM 6/12/03 +0000, you wrote:

>Katharine I expressed myself too hard with the words arrogance and

>misleading. The problem what I have with Dr. Raht is his extreme agressive

>way of approach and he earns an enormous amount of money with his

>multilevelcompany. Dr. Bursynki and Dr. Gonszalez f.i. are more modest

>though also their treatments costs a lot of money but at least they do a lot

>of research also. Dr. Rath actually doesn't do a lot of research but uses

>testomonies from patients which with all respect aren't always objective.

>But still I think the approach of Dr. Raht is an interesting option but also

>Dr. Gorter and Dr. Vogl are doing very interesting work with remarkable

>results as well dr., Dr. Burzynski etc. etc.

>

>I'm sorry I'm sometimes a bit rough in my expressions and reactions. It's

>also a lack of perfect english and I'm an emotional person.

>

>Gr. kees braam

>Webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

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In a message dated 9/17/03 9:05:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> Subject: Re: Digest Number 1239

>

> Thank you MJH. Does it matter if it's served with or without food?

>

> Barb

>

Barb

No it does not matter with Magnesium. But, there is some controversy

about taking it at the same time as Calcium.

MJH

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